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Monday_ posted:They're not allowed to do that. Exactly my point. univbee posted:I don't know if Microsoft has a hard rule about this but Sony definitely does for the PS4 and PS4 Pro, in that developers are not allowed to hold off features other than graphics/framerate from base console users. No "upgraded console only" games or gameplay features, no segregated multiplayer servers, nothing like that. I see. This helps a lot, thanks.
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Lots of people without the X talking with authority about the X in here. It's a huge leap in graphics from the Pro and virtually all new games have better textures/effects etc in addition to much higher resolution and better frame rates. Almost all PC games are tethered to the weakest link console as well.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Almost all PC games are tethered to the weakest link console as well. I agree and it sucks.
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In terms of actually having higher resolutions textures it's a rarer thing (and I do own an Xbox One X, for the record), I think it's only something like 2 dozen games which actually have higher-quality textures, with the newest one being Conan Exile from May. I did some A/B comparisons with my PS4 Pro and some games I happened to have access to on both consoles, the degree of "bump" varies a ton and seems to hinge on whether or not there are the higher res textures more often than not (but there are exceptions, Overwatch doesn't have fancy textures but is enough of a bump on One X over the PS4 Pro). In fairness I don't have a crazy OLED whig-bang TV, maybe differences are easier to spot on a fancier set. I feel like it might be easier to suss out for a game where the PS4 Pro isn't native 4K and the Xbox One X is (like Far Cry 5). For upcoming games I wouldn't expect any EA or 2K sports games to leverage higher-resolution textures, and it could be like the past games where there's effectively no difference from the PS4 Pro version which runs at native 4K. I doubt you'd see enhanced textures also for Starlink or Soul Calibur VI or Kingdom Hearts 3, just based on who's developing those games and how they're being released. Other games would even be in a "maybe" category, I could honestly see it going either way for Red Dead Redemption 2, for example, but I'd say it's more likely for stuff like Shadow of the Tomb Raider and rear end Creed Odyssey.
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univbee posted:In fairness I don't have a crazy OLED whig-bang TV, maybe differences are easier to spot on a fancier set. I feel like it might be easier to suss out for a game where the PS4 Pro isn't native 4K and the Xbox One X is (like Far Cry 5). Well, yes. edit: I guess if you never play non-Japanese AAA new games you might think games might not have much of an improvement either. UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Well, yes. I'm not talking about 4K in general. Yes, that's a jump. I'm talking about going from a PS4 Pro to an Xbox One X.
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univbee posted:I'm not talking about 4K in general. Yes, that's a jump. I'm talking about going from a PS4 Pro to an Xbox One X. It was a big enough jump up that I had no interest in owning a ps4 pro anymore.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Lots of people without the X talking with authority about the X in here. It's a huge leap in graphics from the Pro and virtually all new games have better textures/effects etc in addition to much higher resolution and better frame rates. As an owner of the pro and x, this guy is wrong. In fact from my own experience with multiplats on both the console fidelity parity has never been closer. Falling for marketing schemes like “worlds most powerful system” must get old year after year... no?
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Just check digital foundry comparisons. rear end Creed Origins does perform better on X, but it’s not night and day
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ethanol posted:As an owner of the pro and x, this guy is wrong. In fact from my own experience with multiplats on both the console fidelity parity has never been closer. To be fair the X hasn't even been out for one year, yet, although since it was announced well before we're probably on like year 3 of that marketing campaign. I did an A/B comparison of Wolf II. There is a difference but it's extremely negligible.
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zelah posted:Just check digital foundry comparisons. rear end Creed Origins does perform better on X, but it’s not night and day Yes there is an “edge” which the xbonex takes but it’s no leap. A leap is going from an console to a 1070
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ethanol posted:Yes there is an “edge” which the xbonex takes but it’s no leap. A leap is going from an console to a 1070 Yeah, a leap in price.  
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ethanol posted:Yes there is an “edge” which the xbonex takes but it’s no leap. A leap is going from an console to a 1070 I'm seriously considering updrading the GPU in my Phenom II 955 box because PC gaming is weird
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TheScott2K posted:I'm seriously considering updrading the GPU in my Phenom II 955 box because PC gaming is weird Well, I said 1070 for brevity but a huge amount of that leap between the “worlds most powerful system(s)” and a midrange gaming pc is currently in the desktop cpu power so you probably should hesitate on that
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ethanol posted:Falling for marketing schemes like “worlds most powerful system” must get old year after year... no? Must be rough to not be able to see properly.
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ethanol posted:Well, I said 1070 for brevity but a huge amount of that leap between the “worlds most powerful system(s)” and a midrange gaming pc is currently in the desktop cpu power so you probably should hesitate on that I probably will upgrade the CPU/everything, but only because I've been editing a lot of video lately and boy does that poo poo expose your PC for what it is
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Must be rough to not be able to see properly. Speaking of being disabled, the adaptive controller goes on sale today.
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I’ve noticed since going to pc gaming and then coming back to Xbox that Xbox is More Fun
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Must be rough to not be able to see properly. afaik, Crafty is the only vision-impaired poster itt
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I feel that some people didn't get the point I was trying to make, but I'm afraid if I further explain I'll wink the thread even further.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I feel that some people didn't get the point I was trying to make, but I'm afraid if I further explain I'll wink the thread even further. Everyone got it.
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ethanol posted:As an owner of the pro and x, this guy is wrong. In fact from my own experience with multiplats on both the console fidelity parity has never been closer. Agreed. The difference is so negligible on third party games, most people wouldn't be able to tell a difference unless they're 3' from the screen and counting pixels.
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I want to connect headphones to my XB1 and I’ve got one of the old xbox one controllers. Do I have to buy that AUD $30 adapter for the controller?!
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bigis posted:I want to connect headphones to my XB1 and I’ve got one of the old xbox one controllers. Do I have to buy that AUD $30 adapter for the controller?! That's a drat old controller if you have one without a standard headphone jack on the bottom. But if that's what you have, then yes, only an adapter will let you plug in headphones.
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For that much just buy a new controller. Odds are yours is loving up and you don't even notice.
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love that xbox controllers still suffer from stick drift in 2018 lmfao
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:love that xbox controllers still suffer from stick drift in 2018 lmfao The switch really loving suffers from it and its terrible there too. The PS4 controller battert is poo poo but hey the buttons and sticks work good.
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i don't have a switch so i wasn't aware, lol that's awesome. love too replace the 50 dollar controllers for my gaming systems every two years. (in fairness my xbox one controller still has very minimal drift after two years, which is shocking considering my track record with 360 controllers)
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The switch is really a god awful console design wise
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every nintendo console post-gamecube has been shame since the gamecube was perfection
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:i don't have a switch so i wasn't aware, lol that's awesome. love too replace the 50 dollar controllers for my gaming systems every two years. Honestly after a couple of years I don’t like how controllers get worn down in general after a lot of use, like the touchpad on a DS4 gets visibly worn down. New controllers feel really nice.
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i mean i get that analog controllers are tough to get right, but my og xbox and gamecube controllers are all still good despite me having played both of those consoles a lot (my gamecube still gets regular use), as are my dualsock 1s, dual analog (yes i actually have one of these werid things lmao), and dreamcast controllers. i dunno what the gently caress happened since then that they are apparently made of duct tape and hope instead of real components that don't break after six months.
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Akuma posted:A pair of joycons is $70/£70. I wonder if you can even buy them separately new... You can, I think for like $40, and only in the basic colors (grey, light blue, light red) I think.
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The GameCube controller is a work of art, a masterpiece, the pinnacle of controller
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heeheex2 posted:The GameCube controller is a work of art, a masterpiece, the pinnacle of controller And they're making more of them in December. 
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heeheex2 posted:The GameCube controller is a work of art, a masterpiece, the pinnacle of controller 
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univbee posted:And they're making more of them in December. They arent correctly broken tho
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Real hurthling! posted:They arent correctly broken tho Good. To hell with Pro Smash players.
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univbee posted:Good. To hell with Pro Smash players. Wow, wouldn't want them in this thread.
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univbee posted:Good. To hell with Pro Smash players.
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