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Humerus: Jul 7, 2009; Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.

Wolfenstein is a series of FPS games based around an alternate history WW2 involving a mix of crazy technology and the occult. In all games you play as BJ Blazkowicz, an American spy, who uncovers and stops the most dangerous schemes of the Waffen SS.

The Games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn8cePe-qgI
This is a motion comic attempting to reconcile the wild timeline of Wolfenstein (up to the fourth game). Uh, spoilers though? I guess?

1992

The first game in the series, and one of the first FPS games in general (please don�t :sperg: about this), Wolfenstein 3D was a huge success when it was released. The plot is pretty straightforward; BJ was trying to find plans about a secret Nazi weapon, and got captured. So then you escape Castle Wolfenstein and find the secret weapon, revealed to be undead cyborgs. You kill the mad scientist in charge of that operation, then for kicks, decide to infiltrate Hitler�s bunker and kill him, too.

Did your history teacher skip the part where Hitler had a mech with chainguns on it? :eng99:

The American education system fails more students�

Thanks for Elliotw2 for reminding me that you can play the entire first game in your browser! Head to http://3d.wolfenstein.com/game_NA.php to do so! GET PSYCHED

1992

This is a prequel to Wolf 3D, released the same year. I�m a horrible jerk because I�ve never played it. Anyway, Nazis have stolen the Spear of Destiny and BJ goes to get it back.

2001 (PC)/2003 (PS2/Xbox)

A sort-of reboot, in RtCW, BJ finds himself investigating the Waffen SS Paranormal division, headed by Helga Von Bulow. He and another agent, Agent One, are captured and taken to Castle Wolfenstein, where his companion dies, but BJ escapes and hooks up with a German resistance cell. He goes on to investigate Von Bulow, who is investigating legends of ancient mystical warriors...and manages to piss them off. So they come back to life (naturally) and you have to fight through the tombs and kill one of the more powerful ones, but not before Von Bulow gets killed by it.

After this, BJ is sent to investigate Oberf�hrer Wilhelm Strasse, AKA Deathshead, the head of the SS Special Projects division. BJ infiltrates Strasse�s secret facility, where all kinds of hosed up experiments are happening, mostly involving cyborg type of stuff. Strasse escapes, however, and BJ pursues to another facility, this one with completed �bersoldaten, a horrific mash-up of man and metal. BJ puts an end to that project, but Strasse escapes.

The final leg of the game involves plans for something Von Bulow was working on called Project Resurrection. The plan was to resurrect (or more accurately, free from an eternal prison) an ancient warlock, Saxon King Heinrich I. BJ finds himself returning to Castle Wolfenstein ( :v:

), where the excavation for Heinrich�s tomb is underway. You fight your way to a ritual being conducted by an SS psychic, who raises spirits to turn �bersoldaten into Heinrich�s lieutenants, and eventually raise Heinrich himself. The psychic dies, you kill all the evil undead, and Heinrich Himmler peaces out, kinda pissed that you ruined his good time.

The console versions added a level at the beginning of the game, where BJ and Agent One investigate Von Bulow�s presence at a tomb in Egypt. This level serves to explain how BJ and Agent One got captured in the first place.

A huge part of Return, however, was the multiplayer. It was a team-based system, with teams having objectives (usually destroy or defend something) in order to win. There was a class system, where you could choose to be a soldier, medic, lieutenant, or engineer, each with its own weapon loadouts (different for Allies and Axis teams) and special abilities-medics could heal, lieutenants could resupply ammo, for example. The multiplayer was hugely popular but I never played it, as I had the game on Xbox but not Xbox live. I was too busy playing Phantasy Star Online anyway.

2009

Wolfenstein (usually called Wolfenstein 2009/Wolf �09) is a sequel to RtCW. BJ gets ahold of a magical artifact (the Thule Medallion) that harnesses the power of the Dark Sun dimension. The Nazis, of course, want this power for themselves. Wilhelm Strasse is back, and boy is he pissed. He�s building weapons using the Dark Sun�s power, and it�s up to BJ and the German resistance to stop him.

Since the last thread I actually beat this game! It's awesome! It's also too bad Steam doesn't sell it any longer. The gimmick with the medallion is a gimmick, and I think the game would be better without it, but it�s not too bad. Something new to the series is an overworld, and side missions, and that�s all handled really well. In true Wolfenstein fashion, you can find secrets and treasure in levels, and then use those to unlock upgrades for your guns or Thule Medallion. Pretty cool system, overall.

2014

A sort-of reboot (see below), the game starts as BJ leads an assault on Strasse�s fortress, but is critically injured and slips into a coma. While BJ is out, the Nazis develop the atom bomb, and win the war and take over the world. BJ wakes up in a mental asylum in the 1960s-just in time to stop the Nazis from killing him like they did almost everyone else in it, having used them for experiments and now being done with them. BJ finds the last vestiges of the German resistance, and convinces them the time is now to strike at Strasse and bring down the Nazi global regime.
I'm spoiler tagging this next bit for anyone who hasn't played TNO, you absolutely should. Like right now. If you haven't played it, you're missing out on not just a great Wolfenstein game but a great game in general!
The game just takes off from there, leading you all over the world...and somewhere else. The fuckin' Moon. Anyway, you eventually you strike at Strasse directly and finally kill this old fucker in his fuckin mech suit. Just to make sure, your buds in the resistance nuke the gently caress out of the place. Game ends with you wondering: Can BJ survive a nuclear blast? Apparently so, because BJ is back in the next installment.

2015

This standalone xpac to TNO acts as both a direct prequel to TNO and a retelling/retcon of sorts of RtCW. The first part of the game sees BJ breaking into Castle Wolfenstein, attempting to find the location of Strasse's fortress (for the upcoming assault as seen in the first level of TNO). Unfortunately he gets captured and must escape from Castle Wolfenstein. In the second half, BJ finds himself opposite one Helga van Schabbs, a Nazi archaeologist hellbent on-get this-resurrecting an ancient evil to assist the Nazi war machine. It's different enough from RtCW to feel new, yet familiar.

2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHht8480cEo
Yeah, that's the good poo poo. Just announced, the direct sequel to TNO is due out this October! Details are scarce right now, but from the trailer, we can gather that this game takes place relatively soon after the previous one, and Frau Engel is pissed. No empire falls in a day, so even with Strasse dead, the Nazi empire is still powerful and consuming. This game takes the fight to America, and BJ seems to be trying to unite his (European) resistance with the American resistance. Meanwhile, Frau Engel is back and she is pissed, hunting BJ all over America and trying to end him and his resistance. BJ even gets to be a villain in the Nazi version of the GI Joe ~~dolls~~ action figures, and you can have one!

Returning to Wolfenstein are weapon upgrades!

Not a lot of specific details yet, but every weapon has a few upgrades.

Oh did I mention Bethesda is actually great and is totally egging on the actual real-life Nazi fucks that were getting mad about this game?
https://twitter.com/wolfenstein/status/916075551382585344
The Wolfenstein Twitter is full of stuff like this, and Bethesda is pretty clear about it:

Bethesda VP of marketing and PR Pete Hines posted:

We don't feel it's a reach for us to say Nazis are bad and un-American. And we're not worried about being on the right side of history here.

Launch Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmy4WW8TqL8

I'm not sure trying to reconcile the Wolfenstein timeline is possible or even necessary. BJ has been captured and broken out and returned to Castle Wolfenstein multiple times; he's fought multiple ancient evils and occult monsters; he's to Wolfenstein's world what the Marine is to Doom's. Just kick back and enjoy some Nazi killin' :c00l:

Other Stuff

Check out the previous thread if you absolutely need all the details of the pre-TNO hype, back before we knew it was going to be good and it had been 6 years since a Wolfenstein game came out!

Also in the last thread, Xenomrph made a huge effortpost (reproduced below) about "Weird War 2" stuff to check out. Feel free to contribute your own recommendations as well!

Finally, one of my favorite things they did for TNO was make actual full length songs of the 60s in a Nazi world, and that's too cool to let die so here it is again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnioYhknoR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv4Ey0gdhcM

The website they previously had to host the full songs is throwing security warnings at me now, so. End of a fake era, I guess.

They've revived Neumond by creating fake TV shows for TNC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45quOTuvsNc
You can find the others on Bethesda's Wolfenstein site.

Also, science!

TaurusTorus posted:

The question now is how does BJ compare to a tank? He is armored by the equivalent of 20 stahlhelms as evidenced by his maximum armor capacity. A 1918 stahlhelm is approximately 1 cm thick, therefore A armored BJ is equivalent to a tank with 200 mm armor plating according to Google a M4 Sherman has 76mm armor on the front glacis, putting BJ well ahead there.

But what of the Nazi tanks? A Panzer IV is the most produced Nazi tank of the war, and has 80mm front armor, well behind BJ. �But TaurusTorus� I hear you say, �that�s from the �30�s, what about the late war tanks?� Well to answer your question, a Panzer VIII Maus, the largest Nazi tank, has 220mm front armor, edging out New Order BJ by 20mm. Notice I said New Order, in Old Blood BJ can acquire up to 125 armor or 25 stahlhelms, or 250 mm armor, handily beating the Maus.

But a tank is more than its armor, it also has to kill things, and so does BJ. Let�s compare: a 76mm HVAP round from a Sherman can penetrate 178mm armor, a King Tiger�s 8.8cm gun can penetrate 238mm of armor. BJ�s armaments are more difficult to find statistics on, so let�s start with an easy one, in Wolf �09 BJ uses a Panzershreck, capable of penetrating 160mm armor, good but not exceptional. Luckily for BJ he has more in his arsenal, like the Lichenfaust. Now this, I�ll admit, is a bit of a stretch, but experimentally the Lichenfaust is the only weapon that can oneshot the Altered enemies, which can survive at least two Panzershreck rockets, to me that sounds like it is at least twice as good, placing BJ�s armor defeating capabilities at 320mm, besting the Tiger.

Other posters have pointed out that there are logistical components to a tank�s qualities, so let�s compare reliability and mobility through harsh terrain. On the first point, Tigers had a notoriously unreliable final drive requiring constant maintenance. BJ on the other hand requires only dog food for maintenance, and is capable of operating with no logistical support, and, as is seen in New Order, can kill Nazis while unconscious, waking up running them over.

As to terrain, as the Nazis discovered on the eastern front, mud is a powerful enemy to tanks, miring them, neutralizing them. BJ has never been defeated by mud, and in fact is capable of operating underwater and in space, a feature demonstrated by no tank on either side of the war.

In conclusion, the Allies had the supreme tank of WWII: BJ Blazkowicz.

Let's

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Humerus: Jul 7, 2009; Rule of acquisition #111:
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Xenomrph posted:

In celebration of the launch of Wolfenstein: The New Order, I might as well post up my completely ridiculous Weird War II library.

Weird War II stuff tends to span a few broad sub-genres:

- Occult: factions of the war engaging in "dark arts" in order to harness supernatural powers for various purposes. Summoning demons from hell, acquiring holy relics, attempting to access other dimensions, or using other forms of "arcane knowledge", etc. Some of this has basis in fact - Nazi Germany had several occult groups of which many prominent Nazi officials were members, and they legitimately believed they could tap into hidden knowledge of the supernatural in order to help them win the war. Expeditions were actually sent to locate relics around the world.

- Super-science: Scientific breakthroughs were plentiful during the war, but what if the factions were equipping really weird poo poo? Particle weapons, teleportation, flying saucers, time-travel, freakish medical experiments, etc. Again this has some basis in fact - as the war continued (and especially as Germany got more and more desperate) scientists engaged in increasingly off-the-wall experiments and ideas. There was a great deal of experimental technology that didn't get past the drawing board for various reasons - lack of funding, materials, facilities, practicality, or the fact that the war ended and there wasn't a need for it anymore.

- Alternate-history: what if things had played out differently, a different decision was made somewhere that changed the course of the war? What if the Nazis had won the war, what would the world be like today? What if we had been forced to engage in a land-war with Japan? This has a sort of sub-category to it as well:

- Conspiracy-theory: did Hitler *really* commit suicide in his bunker? Have high-ranking Nazis been in positions of power since the war's end? Do we really know everything about the war?

Beyond this, Weird War II stuff tends to fall into one of three types:

- Fiction: exactly what it sounds like. Jetpack-wearing Nazis with deathrays spilling out of UFOs to combat Allied mech-walkers armed with tesla weapons, poo poo like that. The tone can be all over the place, from depressingly apocalyptic to two-fisted pulp-action to nail-biting suspense-thriller and anything in between. Weird War II is broad enough that it can really accommodate any tone or style an author might want to implement.

- Non-fiction: obviously more mundane than fiction, but not necessarily less interesting. Historical accounts of expeditions to recover holy relics, technical discussions of war-time breakthroughs, thought experiments about alternate courses of the war with an eye for historical accuracy and plausability, etc

- "Non-fiction": alternative-publisher accounts of war-time activities, basically likely-fiction written as if it's non-fiction. Conspiracy theories about postwar Nazi organizations, Nazi contact with extraterrestrials, government coverups of secret experiments, stuff that the authors really want you to believe because it'll completely destroy everything you thought you knew about the world. Even if it's totally bonkers, it's still fun to think about.

Here's a ridiculous list of the myriad stuff I've got, listed with title and author:

Books
Fiction
Alternate History
1945, Newt Gingrich & William R Forstchen
Adolf Hitler's Plot for World War Three, Tomas Voigt *
Adolf in Wonderland, Carlton Mellick III
The Afrika Reich, Guy Saville
After Dachau, Daniel Quinn
Aftermath, Ladislas Farago
Against the Day, Michael Cronin
All Evil Shed Away, Archie Roy
American Under Attack: An Alternative History of World War Two, Jeff Kildow *
rear end Goblins of Auschwitz, Cameron Pierce
Axis of Time: Weapons of Choice, John Birmingham
Axis of Time: Designated Targets, John Birmingham
Axis of Time: Final Impact, John Birmingham
Bitter Seeds, Ian Tregillis
Borrowed Time, David Rose *
Budspy, David Dvorkin
A Change of Regime, J. N. Stroyar
ChangingUniverse: SS World, Terrance Dicks
The Children's War, J. N. Stroyar
Clash of Eagles, Leo Rutman
Collaborator, Murray Davies
Cracken at Critical, Brian W. Aldiss
Das Death, Luis Samways **
Declare, Tim Powers
The Devil's Gold, Steve Berry *
The Divide, William Overgard
Fatherland, Robert Harris
Fox on the Front, Douglas Niles & Michael Dobson
Fox on the Rhine, Douglas Niles & Michael Dobson
Free Zone, Charles Platt
Glow, Richard Robertson **
Gotterdammerung, Grey Wolf *
Himmler's War, Robert Conroy
Hitler Invades England, George Crall **
Hitler Victorious, Gregory Benford & Martin Harry Greenberg
Hitler's Ashes: How Hitler's Assassination Leads to the Development of Germany's Atomic Bomb, John T. Cox
The Illuminatus! Trilogy, Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson
In the Morning, Michael Cronin
In the Presence of Mine Enemies, Harry Turtledove
The Iron Dream, Norman Spinrad **
Knights of the White Camelia: The Evolution of the Fourth Reich, James Hester
The Leader, Guy Walters
Making History, Stephen Fry
The Man in the High Castle, Philip K Dick
The Man with the Iron Heart, Harry Turtledove
Moon of Ice, Brad Linaweaver
North Reich, Robert Conroy *
Order of the Black Sun, Jack Follett *
Origin, Alexander Julien *
Pax Brtiannia: El Sombre, Al Ewing
Pax Britannia: Gods of Manhattan, Al Ewing
Pax Britannia: Anno Frankenstein, Jonathan Green
Pax Britannia: Pax Omega, Al Ewing
The Plot Against America, Philip Roth
The Proteus Operation, James P. Hogan
Retromancer, Robert Rankin
The Second Great War, Alex Night *
Seelowe Nord, Andy Johnson
Sideslip, Ted White, Dave Van Arnam
Sniper Elite: Target Hitler, Scott K. Andrews *
The Sound of His Horn, Sarban
SS-GB, Len Deighton
Swastika Night, Katherine Burdekin
Tannhauser: Operation Night Eagle, Blaine Lee Pardoe
Through the Night, Michael Cronin
Time's Tapestry: Weaver, Stephen Baxter
Timewyrm: Exodus, Terrance Dicks
To Say Nothing of the Dog, Connie Willis
Two Dooms, C. M. Cornbluth
The Ultimate Solution, Eric Norden
War in the West, Brian Clarke *
Wolf Hunt: The Burning Ages, Sebastian P. Breit
Worldwar: In the Balance, Harry Turtledove
Worldwar: Tilting the Balance, Harry Turtledove
Worldwar: Upsetting the Balance, Harry Turtledove
Worldwar: Striking the Balance, Harry Turtledove
World War II 1939-1948, Bem Allen
X-men: The Chaos Engine Trilogy: Red Skull, Steven A. Roman

Conspiracy Theory
The Apocalypse Watch, Robert Ludlum
Area 217, Gary Gamage
Axis Mundi, David Saxe
The Berkut, Joseph Heywood
The Bormann Testament, Jack Higgins
The Charlemagne Pursuit, Steve Berry
Edelweiss, Nathan Price **
Fifth Column, Christopher Remy **
The Fourth Reich, Mitchel Matovich **
Fourth Reich Death Squad, Jerry Ahern **
Fourth Reich Rising, Tom Schwartz *
The Fuhrer Document, Jerry Barksdale
A Game for Heroes, Jack Higgins
Hitler: The Last Conspiracy, Revel Barker **
Hitler: The Secret, Spencer Ratcliffe **
The Hitler Diaries, Jim Williams *
The Hitler Project, John Brinling *
The Hitler Virus: The Insidious Legacy of Adolf Hitler, Peter Wyden
Hitler's Treasure of the Ancient World, Wendelle Stevens *
The Holcroft Covenant, Robert Ludlum
In Pursuit of Platinum, Vic Robbie **
The Last Great Secret of the Third Reich, Arthur O. Naujoks, Lee Nelson
Lost Treasure of the Fourth Reich, Barrett J. Clisby *
The Metal Man, Ben Stevens **
The Nazi Conspiracy, Scott Strosahl **
The Odessa File, Frederick Forsyth
The Portage to San Cristobal of A. H, George Steiner
Rising Sons, Michael Kline **
The Seventh Secret, Irving Wallace
Shadow Warrior: Destiny of a Mutant, Larry Townley *
Time Reich, David Healey, *
The Valhalla Exchange, Harry Patterson
The Wewelsburg Covenant, John Braun
Who Will Watch the Watchers, Edwin Fadiman Jr.

Occult/Supernatural
Accursed, G Johanson **
Ahriman's Light, Mike Eldredge
The Agarthi Conspiracy: The Fist of God, M.E. Brines *
The Agarthi Conspiracy: The Unholy Grail, M.E. Brines *
Atlantis God, David Gibbins
The Atrocity Archives, Charles Stross
Black Camelot, Duncan Kyle
Blood of the Reich, William Dietrich
Blood Reich, Brian Jackson **
Blood Tithe, Glenn Soucy *
The British Alien, John Lewis *
Caballistics, Inc.: Hell on Earth, Mike Wild
Codename Richard, Renee Pawlish **
Dagger Magic, Katherine Kurtz & Deborah Turner Harris
Dark Victory, Michele Lang
Death Knell, C. Terry Cline Jr.
Delta Green: Denied to the Enemy, Dennis Detwiller
The Demon Cross, Nathan Shumate **
Demon Reich, T. L. Rice
The Devils of D-Day, Graham Masterson
Division of the Damned, Richard Rhys Jones *
Dogs of War, Steve Ruthenbeck
Ezcape from Sobibor, David Fischler *
Fiends of the Eastern Front, David Bishop
The Fourth Reich, Robert Van Kampen
Gods of Atlantis, David Gibbins
Golem, Greg Vilk
Good and Evil, I.M. Spartacus **
Hardluck Hannigan: Curse of the Kill Devil, Bill Craig
Hardluck Hannigan: River of the Sun, Bill Craig
Hardluck Hannigan: The Spear of Goliath, Bill Craig
Indiana Jones and the Army of the Dead, Steve Perry
Indiana Jones and the Hollow Earth, Max McCoy
Indiana Jones and the Mystery of Mount Sinai, J. W. Rinzler
Indiana Jones and the Pyramid of the Sorcerer, Ryder Windham
The Keep, F. Paul Wilson
Konig's Fire, Marc Schooley
Lady Lazarus, Michele Lang
Lammas Night, Katherine Kurtz
The Lost Journal of Indiana Jones
Lycanthropos, Jeffrey Sackett **
The Mbuji Juju, Gary Towner **
Merlin's Awakening, Tom Larcombe **
The Midnight Guardian, Sarah Jane Stratford
The Moonlight Brigade, Sarah Jane Stratford
The Nazi Occult, Kenneth Hite
Nazi Werewoofs, Karl Larew **
Nazi Zombie Army: Gotterdammerung, Jonathan Green *
The Night Boat, Robert R. McCammon
Night Fighters, Rob Smith **
The Night the Nazis Came to Dinner, Sean McLachlan *
Nostradamus Ate My Hamster, Robert Rankin
Occupation, Jeff L Dawson *
Panzer Spirit, Tom Townsend
The Seventh Sanctuary, Saniel Easterman
Shadows in the Mist, Brian Moreland
The Sixth Key, Adriana Koulias *
Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army: Gotterdammerung, Jonathan Green *
The Spear of Destiny (A Lance Chambers Mystery), Jason E. Thummell **
The Statement of Andrew Doran, Matthew Davenport **
The Summons, David Whish-Wilson
The Sisterhood of the Rose, Jim Marrs
The Spear, James Herbert
The Spear of Destiny, Julian Noyce *
The Spear of Destiny, ME Brines *
Strange Conflict, Dennis Wheatley
They Used Dark Forces, Dennis Wheatley
The Third Realm, Cliff Wallace *
Tomb of the Lost, Julian Noyce *
Underland, Mick Farren
The Vril Codex, Ben Manning **
The Vril Codex II, Ben Manning **
The Werewolf's Tale, Richard Jaccoma
The Werewolf's Revenge, Richard Jaccoma
WerewolveSS, Jerry Ahern, Sharon Ahern **
Wolf Hunter, J.L. Benet **
The Wolf's Hour, Robert R. McCammon
Whargoul, Dave Brockie *
World War of the Dead, Eric S. Brown **

Super-Science
4th Reich of Antarctica, Cotton Levi Grove *
'48, James Herbert
The Alien Factor, Stan Lee, Stan Timmons
Area 52: Space Nazis, Edward M Grant
Atlantis Found, Clive Cussler
Atlantium: Nazi Time Machine, Roc Hatfield *
Black Order, James Rollins
The Black Sun, James Twining
Blood Toys, Floyd Wray *
The Boys from Brazil, Ira Levn
The Contraption, Rita Villa
The Crisis Pendant, Charlie Patterson
The Day After Tomorrow, Allan Folsom
Death Bell, Peter Francis *
The Destroyer: Brain Storm, Warren Murphy & Richard Sapir
The Destroyer: The Empire Dreams, Warren Murphy & Richard Sapir
The Destroyer: Failing Marks, Warren Murphy & Richard Sapir
Echo of the Reich, James Becker
The Eldridge Conspiracy, Stephen Ames Berry *
Empire of Ice, Emma Daniels *
The Executioner: Devil's Guard, Don Pendleton
The Experiment, Barbara Kyle *
The Furies, Bill Napier
Hardluck Hannigan: Peril in the North, Bill Craig
Hardluck Hannigan: The Sky Masters, Bill Craig
Hitler's Bomb, Chris Scott
Hitler's Bomb From Hell, John J. Leary **
Hitler's Last Gasp, Manfred Krutein
Hitler's New Millennium, Otto Martin Wolf *
Hollow Earth, Dave & Sharon Oester, **
How They Stopped Hitler's Nuclear Weapons Program, Bohdan O. Szuprowicz *
The Hunt for the Fourth Reich, James Berg *
Ice Reich, William Dietrich
Inception, W. A. Harbinson
Journey to the Giant, Dustin Jones *
The Last Way Station: Hitler's Final Journey, Jon Reisfeld *
Lightning, Dean Koontz
Lost World Found, Robert Larrison
Melt Zone, Simon Rosser *
The Nazi Time Machine: 2014, Mike Crade **
Nazi Werewolf Zombie Inferno, Chris Bradshaw, Karl Jull *
Necrocide, Jonathan Davison *
Night of the Nazi Zombies, Michael G. Thomas **
One Thousand Years, Randolph Beck *
Ooparts, Keith Osmond *
Operation Devil's Fire, Ronn Munsterman **
Operation: Montauk, Bryan Young *
Operation Sepsis, Christian Fletcher *
OSS Commando: Hitler's A-Bomb, Charles Sasser
Overlords of Mars, Giuseppe Filotto
Patton's Spaceship, John Barnes
The Rays of the Black Sun, William Sly, David Capuano *
Reichbahn Six-Nine, Tom Townsend
Rockets of the Reich, Kim Kinrade *
Secondworld, Jeremy Robinson
Secret World Chronicles: Invasion, Mercedes Lackey
Secret World Chronicles: World Divided, Mercedes Lackey
Shadow Project, Scott Mariani
The Sky Club, Ian Feldman
Sniper Elite: Spear of Destiny, Jasper Bark
Space Nazis Vs. EXOTROOPERS!, David N. Brown *
Sun of the Sleepless, Patrick Horne *
Swastika, Michael Slade
There Ain't Gonna Be No World War Three, Dominic Green **
A Thousand Suns, Alex Scarrow
Time Travel Exituss, Sterling Geiger *
The Twins, Sheldon Cohen *
Vertical Run, Joseph Garber
Von Neumann's Last Experiment, James Pratt *
Wunderwaffe, Ian Sales *
Zombies vs Nazis, Scott Kenemore

Non-Fiction
Alternate History
Disaster at D-Day, Peter Tsouras
Hitler: The Victory That Nearly Was, Bruce Quarrie
Hitler Triumphant: Alternate Decisions of World War II, Peter Tsouras
How Hitler Could Have Won World War II, Bevin Alexander
If Hitler Had Won, Richard E. Osborne
Luftwaffe Over America, Manfred Griehl
Target America: Hitler's Plan to Attack the United States, James P. Duffy
Third Reich Victorious, Peter G. Tsouras
Tomorrow the World: Hitler, Northwest Africa, and the Path Toward America, Norman J. W. Goda
What if?: Strategic Alternatives of World War II, Harold Deutsch & Dennis Showalter
The World Hitler Never Made, Gavriel D. Rosenfeld

Conspiracy Theory
Alliance of Enemies: The Untold Story of the Secret American and German Collaboration to End World War II, Agostino von Hassell, Sigrid MacRae
The Axmann Conspiracy: The Nazi Plan for a Fourth Reich and How the U.S. Army Defeated It, Scott Andrew Selby
Hitler, The Survival Myth, Donald M. McKale
Hitler's Werewolves, Charles Whiting
Inside the Fourth Reich, Erich Erdstein & Barbara Bean
Order of Battle: Hitlers Werewolves, Ib Melchior
Secrets of the S.S., Glenn B. Infield

Occult
Astrology: A Recent History Including the Untold Story of its Role in World War II, Ellic Howe
Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity, Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
The Black Sun Agenda, Jack Ashcraft
The Black Sun Unveiled: Genesis and Development of a Modern National Socialist Mythos, James Pontolillo
Hammer of the Gods: The Thule Society and the Birth of Nazism, David Luhrssen
Himmler's Crusade: The Nazi Expedition to Find the Origins of the Aryan Race, Christopher Hale
Hitler and the Occult, Ken Anderson
Hitler's Holy Relics, Sidney D. Kirkpatrick
Hitler's Master of the Dark Arts: Himmler's Black Knights and the Occult Origins of the SS, Bill Yenne
The Master Plan: Himmler's Scholars and the Holocaust, Heather Pringle
The Nazis and the Occult, D. Sklar
The Nazis and the Occult: Dark Forces Unleashed by the Third Reich, Paul Roland
The Nazi Occult, Kenneth Hite
The Nazi Occult War: Hitler's Compact with the Forces of Evil, Michael FitzGerald
Nazi Secrets: An Occult Breach in the Fabric of History, Frank Lost
Nazisploitation!: The Nazi Image in Low-Brow Cinema and Culture, Elizabeth Bridges, et al
Occult and the Third Reich: The Mystical Origins of Nazism and the Search for the Holy Grail, Jean-Michel Angebert
The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology, Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
Otto Rahn and the Quest for the Grail: The Amazing Life of the Real "Indiana Jones", Nigel Graddon
Prophecies about the War in Europe 1941, Clarence Reed
The Secret King: The Myth and Reality of Nazi Occultism, Stephen E. Flowers & Michael Moynihan
Unexplained Mysteries of World War II, William B Breuer
Unholy Alliance, Peter Levenda

Super-Science
German Air Projects: 1935-1945 Volume 4, Marek Rys
German & Allied Secret Weapons of World War II, Ian V. Hogg & J. B. King
The German Atomic Bomb: The History of Nuclear Research in Nazi Germany, David Irving
German Secret Weapons: Blueprint for Mars, Brian Ford
German Secret Weapons of World War II, Ian V Hogg
Germany's Secret Weapons in World War II, Roger Ford
Germany's Secret Weapons in World War II (2nd ed), Roger Ford
Hitler's Suppressed and Still-Secret Weapons, Science and Technology, Henry Stevens
Hitler's Terror Weapons: From Doodlebug to Nuclear Warheads, Geoffrey Brooks
The Hunt for Zero Point, Nick Cook
Last Talons of the Eagle: Secret Nazi Technology Which Could Have Changed the Course of World War II, Gary Hyland & Anton Gill
Luftwaffe Advanced Aircraft Projects to 1945, Vol. 2: Fighters & Ground-Attack Aircraft, Lippisch to Zeppelin, Ingolf Meyer
Luftwaffe Secret Projects: Fighters 1939-1945, Walter Schick & Ingolf Meyer
Luftwaffe X-Planes: German Experimental and Prototype Planes of World War II, Manfred Griehl
My Tank Is Fight!, Zack Parsons
The Mystery of U-33: Hitler's Secret Envoy, Nigel Graddon
Nazi Science: Myth, Truth, and the German Atomic Bomb, Mark Walker
Secret Aircraft Designs of the Third Reich, David Myhra
Secret Weapons: Death Rays, Doodlebugs and Churchill's Golden Goose, Brian Ford
Secret Weapons: Technology, Science, and the Race to Win World War II, Brian J. Ford
Secret Weapons of World War II, William B Breuer
Secret Weapons of World War II, Bill Yenne
Secret Wonder Weapons of the Third Reich: German Missiles 1934-1945, J. Miranda & P. Mercado
Strange Company: Military Encounters with UFOs in World War II, Keith Chester **
The Truth About The Wunderwaffe, Igor Witkowski
U-boat!: The Rare Type, Harry Cooper
Vengeance: Hitler's Nuclear Weapon : Fact or Fiction?, Philip Henshall
World War II Data Book: Hitler's Secret Weapons, David Porter

�Non-Fiction�
Conspiracy Theory
Escape from the Bunker: Hitler's Escape From Berlin, Harry Cooper
Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler, Simon Dunstan & Gerrard Williams
Hitler's Escape, Ron T. Hansig
Hitler's Fate: The Final Story, H. D. Baumann
The Murder of Adolf Hitler: The Truth About the Bodies in the Berlin Bunker, W. Hugh Thomas
The New Germany and the Old Nazis, T. H. Tetens
Neusinger of the Fourth Reich, Charles R. Allen Jr.
The Rise of the Fourth Reich: Secret Societies that Threaten to Take Over America, Jim Marrs

Occult
The Black Sun: Montauk's Nazi-Tibetan Connection, Peter Moon
Hitler's Occult War, Michael Fitzgerald
Invisible Eagle: The Hidden History of Nazi Occultism, Alan Baker
The Mark of the Beast, Trevor Ravenscroft & Tim Wallace-Murphy
The Morning of the Magicians, Louis Pauwels & Jacques Bergier
The Occult Reich, J. H. Brennan
One Foot in Atlantis: The Secret Occult History of World War II and Its Impact on New Age Politics, William Henry
Satan and the Swastika, Francis King
The Secrets of the Third Reich: The Opening of the Parapsychological Abilities, Sergey Matyushkov *
The Secrets of the Third Reich: The Practice of Achieving Tranced State, Sergey Matyushkov *
The Spear of Destiny, Trevor Ravenscroft

Super-Science
Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism and Nazi Survival, Joscelyn Godwin
Blue Fires: The Lost Secrets of Nazi Technology, Gary Hyland
Dark Star, Henry Stevens
Hitler's Flying Saucers: A Guide to German Flying Discs of the Second World War, Henry Stevens
Hitler's Flying Saucers: A Guide to German Flying Discs of the Second World War (New Edition), Henry Stevens
Hitler's Miracle Weapons: vol 1 The Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine, Friedrich Georg
Hitler's Miracle Weapons: vol 3 From the America Rocket to an Orbital Station, Friedrich Georg
Man-Made UFOs 1944-1994: 50 Years of Suppression, Renato Vesco & David Hatcher Childress
Man-Made UFOs: WWII's Secret Legacy, Renato Vesco & David Hatcher Childress
Nazi International: The Nazi's Postwar Plan to Control Finance, Conflict, Physics, and Space, Joseph P. Farrell
The Omega Files: Secret Nazi UFO Bases Revealed!, Branton
The Philadelphia Experiment: Project Invisibility, William L. Moore
The Present Threat of Nazi UFOs and World War Three: The United States and Germany's UFOs from 1917 to the Present Day, vol 1 (4th ed), Maxemillien de Lafayette *
The Present Threat of Nazi UFOs and World War Three: The United States and Germany's UFOs from 1917 to the Present Day, vol 2 (4th ed), Maxemillien de Lafayette *
Projekt UFO: The Case for Man-Made Flying Saucers, W. A. Harbinson
Reich of the Black Sun: Nazi Secret Weapons & the Cold War Allied Legend, Joseph P. Farrell
Roswell and the Reich: The Nazi Connection, Joseph P. Farrell
Saucers, Swastikas and Psyops: A History of A Breakaway Civilization: Hidden Aerospace Technologies and Psychological Operations, Joseph P. Farrell
Second Coming of Adolph Hitler, Dylan Clearfield *
Secrets of the Unified Field: The Philadelphia Experiment, The Nazi Bell, and thew Discarded Theory, Joseph P. Farrell
The SS Brotherhood of the Bell: The Nazis' Incredible Secret Technology, Joseph P. Farrell
UFO'S Nazi Secret Weapons?, Mattern Friedrich

Tabletop Games
Tannhauser
Dust Tactics

Video Games
Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of World War II
Bloodrayne
Call of Duty: World at War
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Captain America: Super Soldier
Dino D-Day
Hellboy: The Science of Evil
Iron Sky: The iOS Game
Mortyr
Mortyr II
Outpost Defense
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
The Saboteur
Sniper Elite: Nazi Zombie Army
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty
Ubersoldier
Ubersoldier II
War Front: Turning Point
Wolfenstein
Wolfenstein 3D
WolfenstenRPG
Wolfenstein: The New Order

RPG/Wargame Books
AE-WWII Core Rulebook
AE-WWII: Basra 1946
AE-WWII: Occult Expansion
The Day After Ragnarok
Gear Krieg Rulebook
Gear Krieg: African Theater
Gear Krieg: Allies Sourcebook
Gear Krieg: Axis Sourcebook
Gear Krieg: Luft Krieg
Gear Krieg: Superscience
Gear Krieg: The Roleplaying Game
Gear Krieg: Wargaming Companion
Gurps WWII: Weird War II
Hollow Earth Expedition: Secrets of the Surface World
NUTS!: War Without End
Reich Star
Secrets of the Third Reich
Secrets of the Third Reich: Doomsday
Weird Wars: Weird War II
Weird War II: Afrika Korpse
Weird War II: Blood on the Rhine
Weird War II: Dead from Above
Weird War II: Hell in the Hedgerows
Weird War II: Hell Freezes Over
Weird War II: Horrors of Weird War II

DVDs
The Aldebaran Mystery & the Eisenhower Briefing Papers
Below
Blood Creek
Bloodrayne: The Third Reich
The Bunker
Captain America
Company of Heroes
Dead Snow
Death Ship
The Devil's Rock
The Devil's Keep
FDR: American Badass
First Squad: The Moment of Truth
Frankenstein's Army
Hellboy
Hitler's Britain
Hitler's Secret Flying Saucers
Horrors of War
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Iron Sky
Nazis at the Center of the Earth
Nazi UFOs How They Fly: Exposing German Tesla Free Energy Program
Nazi UFO's The Illuminati Conspiracy
Nazi UFO Legacy And The Conspiracy
The Occult History of the Third Reich
Outpost
Outpost: Black Sun
Project Chronos: Nazi Hyper-Dimensional Physics and the Bell Project
The Reich Underground
The Rocketeer
Timecop 2
UFO Secrets of the Third Reich
UFO Secrets of World War II
Urda: The Third Reich
War of the Dead
World War II German UFOs

Comics
30 Days of Night: Red Snow, Ben Templesmith
American Vampire vol 3, Scott Snyder & Rafael Albuquerque
Atomic Robo, Brian Clevinger & Scott Wegener
BPRD: 1946, Mike Mignola
BPRD: 1947, Mike Mignola
Captain Gravity and the Power of the Vril, Joshua Dysart & Sal Velluto
Common Foe, Keith Griffen
Creepy #3-4, Dark Horse Comics
Danger Girl, J. Scott Campbell
Dark Axis: Rise of the Overmen, Chris Wheeler
Duke Nukem: Glorious Bastard, Tom Waltz, Xermanico, Luis Antonio Delgado
Dust, Christopher Morrison & Paolo Parente
Dust Wars, Christopher Morrison & Paolo Parente
FUBAR
High Roads, Scott Lobdell, Leinil Yu
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis,
Indiana Jones and the Iron Phoenix, Joe Pinney, Hal Barwood
Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny, Elaine Lee, Will Simpson
Indiana Jones and the Tomb of the Gods, Rob Williams, Steve Scott
The Iron Ghost, Chuck Dixon, Sergio Cariello
Iron Man Noir, Scott Snyder, Manuel Garcia
Iron Siege, James Abraham, Andrew Hong, & Trevor Goring
The Keep, F. Paul Wilson & Matthew Dow Smith
The Life Eaters, David Brin & Scott Hampton
Light Brigate, Peter J. Tomasi
Lobster Johnson: Iron Prometheus, Mike Mignola
Lost Squad, Chris Kirby & Alan Robinson
The Manhattan Projects, Jonathan Hickman
Marvel Zombies Destroy!, Frank Marraffino, et al
Miss Fury, Tarpe Mills
Miss Fury (reboot), Rob Williams, Jack Herbert, Marcio Abreu
Nazi Zombies, Joe Wight
Obergeist Director's Cut, Dan Jolley
Resident Evil, Ricardo Sanchez, Kevin Sharpe
The Rocketeer, Dave Stevens
Shanna: The She Devil #1-7, Frank Cho
Showcase Presents: Weird War Tales Vol. 1
Time Bomb, Jimmy Palmiotti, Justin Gray, & Paul Gulacy
Top 10: The Forty-Niners, Alan Moore, Gene Ha
Uber, Kieron Gillen, Caanan White
War of the Undead, Bruan Johnson & Walter Flanagan
Weird War Tales vol 1, Joe Kubert

Stuff with * means it's e-book only, stuff with ** means print editions exist, I just happen to have the e-book version.

And a photo of what all this poo poo looks like on a shelf:

Humerus fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 12, 2017

# ? Jun 12, 2017 23:11

Hamburger Sandwich: Nov 24, 2007

I'm glad nearly 30 years on, we're still excited for Wolfenstein and Doom

# ? Jun 12, 2017 23:56

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

the new game is gonna own OP

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:00

BexGu: Jan 9, 2004; This fucking day....

Panadol posted:

I'm glad nearly 30 years on, we're still excited for Wolfenstein and Doom

Doom had a low point or two but Wolfenstein def was lucky to a few good developers that understood how fun the gameplay of "WW2....but with mystical elements" FPS could be. That and giving time between games instead of just cranking out sequels non-stop.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:16

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

So, does anyone know why there was a cat headed monkey watching trailers in the new trailer? Like, was that an element I missed in the last game, one of Death Heads experiments?

BexGu posted:

Doom had a low point or two but Wolfenstein def was lucky to a few good developers that understood how fun the gameplay of "WW2....but with mystical elements" FPS could be. That and giving time between games instead of just cranking out sequels non-stop.

I wouldn't say that really helped. The Mysical elements were never stronger than in the 2008 Wolfenstein Reboot, and that game sucked.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:21

Klaus88: Jan 23, 2011; Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

The southern American communist resistance member threw me for a loop. This game is going to make people SO ANGRY in the best possible way. :allears:

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:22

Rebel Blob: Mar 1, 2008; Extinction for our time

Klaus88 posted:

The southern American communist resistance member threw me for a loop. This game is going to make people SO ANGRY in the best possible way.

It already has.

https://twitter.com/_kraut_/status/874215972495904768

Also, for something a little different:

https://twitter.com/SullyKWP/status/874134730563883008

Rebel Blob fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 13, 2017

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:27

BexGu: Jan 9, 2004; This fucking day....

Fulchrum posted:

So, does anyone know why there was a cat headed monkey watching trailers in the new trailer? Like, was that an element I missed in the last game, one of Death Heads experiments?

I wouldn't say that really helped. The Mysical elements were never stronger than in the 2008 Wolfenstein Reboot, and that game sucked.

It was something to push it beyond just another WW2 game. Having side stories/mission on the weird mystical poo poo of the Nazi regime opened up the possibility of new and different enemies instead of just difference human soldiers. The new Era of Wolfenstein is all about combining that with mad scientist high tech.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:28

Humerus: Jul 7, 2009; Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.

Fulchrum posted:

So, does anyone know why there was a cat headed monkey watching trailers in the new trailer? Like, was that an element I missed in the last game, one of Death Heads experiments?

I wouldn't say that really helped. The Mysical elements were never stronger than in the 2008 Wolfenstein Reboot, and that game sucked.

The monkey-cat thing people are predicting is a tie-in to BJ possibly having his head on a new body. There's a shot in the trailer where BJ has a metal seam looking thing on his neck, but that could also be the power armor from the first game. Maybe.

And Wolf '09 ruled. The farm level! Crashing a Zeppelin!

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:30

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

BexGu posted:

It was something to push it beyond just another WW2 game. Having side stories/mission on the weird mystical poo poo of the Nazi regime opened up the possibility of new and different enemies instead of just difference human soldiers. The new Era of Wolfenstein is all about combining that with mad scientist high tech.

Even to that I'd say no, the real identity, the soul of the game, has always been weird sci-fi nazi stuff, and thats been in there since the first game when you killed Mecha-Hitler. There's a reason that this:

Is one of the most well known final bosses in gaming.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:36

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Humerus posted:

The monkey-cat thing people are predicting is a tie-in to BJ possibly having his head on a new body. There's a shot in the trailer where BJ has a metal seam looking thing on his neck, but that could also be the power armor from the first game. Maybe.

And Wolf '09 ruled. The farm level! Crashing a Zeppelin!

...which body conceived the kids?

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:38

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

Fulchrum posted:

Even to that I'd say no, the real identity, the soul of the game, has always been weird sci-fi nazi stuff, and thats been in there since the first game when you killed Mecha-Hitler. There's a reason that this:

Is one of the most well known final bosses in gaming.

I do like how Death's Head is piloting a suped up version of this.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:43

Bolow: Feb 27, 2007

I'm sad that the bad rear end resistance lady is very likely dead in the new game :smith:

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:47

Pigbuster: Sep 12, 2010; Fun Shoe

I love the amount of goofy crap in that trailer, it's made me super excited for this, and I haven't even played any of the previous games. Monkey cat. Bulletproof pyramid head-esque armor. What looks like combat stilts. A guy playing a clarinet in the middle of a firefight what the gently caress that is downright Lynchian levels of "characters that behave in nonsensical yet oddly appealing ways". I really hope there's no explanation for that clarinet.

Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jun 13, 2017

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:49

Rebel Blob: Mar 1, 2008; Extinction for our time

Humerus posted:

The monkey-cat thing people are predicting is a tie-in to BJ possibly having his head on a new body. There's a shot in the trailer where BJ has a metal seam looking thing on his neck, but that could also be the power armor from the first game. Maybe.

You can see BJ wearing the power armor without the neck-seam here, the angular thing around his neck which pops up into a helmet:

Compared to the neck-seam without any visible power armor suit:

I'm guessing BJ gets decapitated sometime during the game, since there are plenty of scenes without the seam. Maybe in this scene, which you can see part of in the trailer:

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:50

Humerus: Jul 7, 2009; Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.

I totally go in for the super science stuff more than the occult, like all the weird poo poo in Strasse's lab was way cooler than the zombie stuff in the later part of the game. But even then in Wolf '09 remember that Strasse was trying (and succeeding) to harness the Dark Sun energy for more super science shannanigans over just, I guess, directly unleashing the Dark Sun beasts (even though that ended up happening).

Bolow posted:

I'm sad that the bad rear end resistance lady is very likely dead in the new game

I'm like fairly sure she had the power armor at the end of the last game, so there's hope. She was supposedly dead at the end of '09 too.

Humerus fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jun 13, 2017

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:51

Bolow: Feb 27, 2007

What you never seen a bard?

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:51

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Bolow posted:

I'm sad that the bad rear end resistance lady is very likely dead in the new game

I'm not. She died as this unstoppable force of nazi-killing vengeance, taking down the symbols of Nazi supremacy, and given back her legs. There would be no better moment for her to die than that.

Pigbuster posted:

I love the amount of goofy crap in that trailer, it's made me super excited for this, and I haven't even played any of the previous games. Monkey cat. Bulletproof pyramid head-esque armor. What looks like combat stilts. A guy playing a clarinet in the middle of a firefight what the gently caress that is downright Lynchian levels of "characters that behave in nonsensical yet oddly appealing ways". I really hope there's no explanation for that clarinet.

My favorite part is probably scoring it to "Danke Schoen". There just something about scoring a games chaotic action to an older song that just really tickles me.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:53

poptart_fairy: Apr 8, 2009; by R. Guyovich

Humerus posted:

I totally go in for the super science stuff more than the occult, like all the weird poo poo in Strasse's lab was way cooler than the zombie stuff in the later part of the game. But even then in Wolf '09 remember that Strasse was trying (and succeeding) to harness the Dark Sun energy for more super science shannanigans over just, I guess, directly unleashing the Dark Sun beasts (even though that ended up happening).

I'm like fairly sure she had the power armor at the end of the last game, so there's hope. She was supposedly dead at the end of '09 too.

I love it's canon Hitler got sick of all this magic poo poo wasting time, so just gave Strasse a blank cheque for robots.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 00:57

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

poptart_fairy posted:

I love it's canon Hitler got sick of all this magic poo poo wasting time, so just gave Strasse a blank cheque for robots.

Someone actually gave an explanation for that. If you're putting your money into looking for magical artifacts, than at best you're only going to have so many of those artifacts to go around, so you can't just give one to all your troops. Meanwhile, the benefit of science is that its reproducible, so you can outfit all of your soldiers with insane high tech fiery robot dogs.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:00

Grey Fox: Jan 5, 2004

Hi, I'm here for the meltdowns.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:00

Humerus: Jul 7, 2009; Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.

poptart_fairy posted:

I love it's canon Hitler got sick of all this magic poo poo wasting time, so just gave Strasse a blank cheque for robots.

The Old Blood implies that BJ did kill Hitler and he was resurrected as a zombie, probably a figure head more than anything.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:02

Pigbuster: Sep 12, 2010; Fun Shoe

Bolow posted:

What you never seen a bard?

Wait is this an actual thing? I'm failing at finding more info and I never would've imagined war bards are a real thing.

E: http://www.damncoolpictures.com/2011/10/libyan-guitar-hero.html?m=1

Apparently it just sorta happened.

Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jun 13, 2017

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:02

Fulchrum: Apr 16, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Humerus posted:

The Old Blood implies that BJ did kill Hitler and he was resurrected as a zombie, probably a figure head more than anything.

Sounds about right. There are logs in New Order where they nearly put the Beatles to death for not Heiling Hitler before a concert, but that doesn't necessitate hi m being alive.

THough you'd wonder why their first idea would be "zombies" and not, I dunno, a body double?

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:10

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

i cant wait for more crying about wolfenstein

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:14

Humerus: Jul 7, 2009; Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.

Fresh content, collector's edition comes with Terror Billy action figure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM5shE229v0
Along with the Terror-Billy action figure, the Wolfenstein II Collector�s Edition includes the full game in a steelbook case and a double-sided poster, all in an amazing box that recalls some of our favorite childhood toys. Available for pre-order right now, the Collector�s Edition will retail for $99.99 (�89.99 GBP | $169.95 AUD). Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus will release on October 27, 2017, on Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC.

Cheaper than the collector's edition of TNO and it actually includes the game this time! Wowzers, what a deal!

Weird that Engel doesn't have the swastika, probably so they can sell one item across all territories, but maybe it means something. Probably not though.

Fulchrum posted:

Sounds about right. There are logs in New Order where they nearly put the Beatles to death for not Heiling Hitler before a concert, but that doesn't necessitate hi m being alive.

THough you'd wonder why their first idea would be "zombies" and not, I dunno, a body double?

Imagine "That's XCOM" but with Strasse saying "That's WOLF"

Humerus fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jun 13, 2017

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:15

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

Fulchrum posted:

Sounds about right. There are logs in New Order where they nearly put the Beatles to death for not Heiling Hitler before a concert, but that doesn't necessitate hi m being alive.

THough you'd wonder why their first idea would be "zombies" and not, I dunno, a body double?

Probably to tie it to the original Wolfenstein which had zombies. Like they have the technology for it so they brought him back. Which I think would be hard because Hitler turned into a friggin puddle after BJ killed him. Also, there is a letter in either New Order or Old Blood where someone says they met der fuhrer and described him as pale and somewhat cold to the touch, IIRC.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:31

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Rebel Blob posted:

It already has.

https://twitter.com/_kraut_/status/874215972495904768

Also, for something a little different:

https://twitter.com/SullyKWP/status/874134730563883008

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/12/15780596/wolfenstein-2-the-new-colossus-alt-right-nazi-outrage

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:34

Klaus88: Jan 23, 2011; Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Synthbuttrange posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/12/15780596/wolfenstein-2-the-new-colossus-alt-right-nazi-outrage

Nazis are supremely dumb motherfuckers, news at 11.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 01:51

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Synthbuttrange posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/12/15780596/wolfenstein-2-the-new-colossus-alt-right-nazi-outrage

jesus

# ? Jun 13, 2017 02:18

Crabtree: Oct 17, 2012; ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!; Dinosaur Gum

I still hunger for Nazi blood, but for now will also accept real world Nazi tears about a 36 year old franchise about shootin Natzis. Please tell me I can also murder those loving bed sheet wearing KKK members as well.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 02:33

marshmallow creep: Dec 10, 2008; I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Crabtree posted:

I still hunger for Nazi blood, but for now will also accept real world Nazi tears about a 36 year old franchise about shootin Natzis. Please tell me I can also murder those loving bed sheet wearing KKK members as well.

I can remember a time when everything was WW2 and nazi murder and we reached nazi killing saturation and fatigue. Now it's all I want.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 02:47

Crabtree: Oct 17, 2012; ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!; Dinosaur Gum

Wolfenstein was preparing us for the future. We let up on our Nazi killing and look what happened!

# ? Jun 13, 2017 02:54

Cemetry Gator: Apr 3, 2007; Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

Spear of Destiny is okay. It's just more of the same for Wolf 3D, since it's the same engine, and they don't really add anything new. So as a game, it can be kind of tiring after 60 levels of Wolf 3D. It's not a bad game, by any stretch, it just is rare I want to play a Wolf 3D style game, but not Wolf 3D.

The expansion packs you get on Steam are total poo poo. Like, they are just ugly messes. It's hilarious.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 03:28

LegoMan: Mar 17, 2002; ting ting ting; College Slice

Wolfenstein TNO loving owned, and was a game (Like Bulletstorm) that 'got it' with regard to how a FPS should be. None of this "Press F to pay respects". Just shootin Nazis and bein on the motherfuckin Moon.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 03:40

Instruction Manuel: May 15, 2007; Yes, it is what it looks like!

Crabtree posted:

Wolfenstein was preparing us for the future. We let up on our Nazi killing and look what happened!

Oh poo poo, it's all so clear now :eyepop:

# ? Jun 13, 2017 03:50

Hamburger Sandwich: Nov 24, 2007

I like how to some it's a SJW nightmare with all the nazi symbology and to others it's a SJW fantasy where you fight Trumps America.

It's almost like SJW is a term you use to create a strawman rather than a political ideology

# ? Jun 13, 2017 04:07

cuntman.net: Mar 1, 2013

Grey Fox posted:

Hi, I'm here for the meltdowns.

same

# ? Jun 13, 2017 04:07

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 09:59

Stan Taylor: Oct 13, 2013; Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Hell yes. Can't wait to see how they top the Moonbase level from TNO. Was the Old Blood worth playing? I heard it was a step down from TNO, but it's been a while since i played it so I probably wouldn't notice much.

# ? Jun 13, 2017 04:08

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