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david carmichael posted:Well conor is a big rangey southpaw with power who likes to apply pressure and has cardio issues. Floyd's legs will likely be super shot by the time the fight happens so it will be interesting to see how he deals with the pressure until conor tuckers himself out, and it will also be interesting to see if conor gets outmuscled in the clinch despite being ostensibly a more experienced grappler and much bigger Floyd will still have enough in him to move for a few rounds, which is how long it will take Conor to get tired. But it won't matter because he will do what he's done to everyone he hasn't felt like moving against in the past decade and just stand in the middle of the ring hitting them repeatedly with right hand leads, then sit on the ropes and let them hit arms and shoulders when he wants a break.
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Gay Horney posted:I don't think anyone is convinced or at least I'm not. But this isn't the sure thing for Floyd that everyone is falling all over themselves to make it out to be. Floyd's last fight was 2015 I'm not sure what that other idiot was talking about. Two years is a hell of a long time to think you're retired and we've all seen what being 40 does to dudes. Nothing in combat sports is a sure thing, but Floyd would be heavily favored over any boxer from 154 down so he should be really really heavily favored against a non-boxer who was recently fighting at 145 pounds.
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Benne posted:https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/875101558584856578 Lol, that's Floyd's dad.
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Jun 14, 2017 22:43
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sportsgenius86 posted:Yes, that would be the joke I know, and it's a funny one, which is why I was laughing out loud about it.
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Jun 14, 2017 22:47
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Mr. Carlisle posted:This is going to be an insanely fun and entertaining fight no matter what the outcome. When two huge egos clash something very fuckin funny is bound to happen and we all win. When Conor loses he will just talk about how he challenged himself by fighting the best boxer in the world and now he's richer than any of us will ever be, and will continue to act exactly like he did before.
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Jun 14, 2017 23:01
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Rigel posted:Dana White just said that it will be at T-Mobile arena (so not the MGM Grand which Mayweather originally reserved) Mayweather has fought at, and won titles at, super welterweight.
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Jun 14, 2017 23:18
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This is going to look like when Mayweather fought Gatti.
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Jun 15, 2017 03:57
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I didn't mean that Keven!
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Jun 15, 2017 04:01
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1st AD posted:floyd has not defeated his greatest foe He's rich beyond the wildest dreams of most people while you're just some poor rear end bitch that can read, seems like he won.
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Jun 15, 2017 19:07
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Snowman_McK posted:What's an example of a really good boxing match to demonstrate the difference between 'punches hard' and 'good boxer'? Barrera/Hamed There really aren't many like this though because most boxers who get to fight good boxers are pretty decent boxers themselves, not just guys who punch hard.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:10
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eric posted:Floyd probably demanded 18oz gloves. Hrm, he probably didn't.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:13
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The big issue with most of these comparisons to boxing matches is that Conor isn't a pressure fighter, he's more of a boxer puncher/counter puncher in his MMA fights. He's probably closest to Zab Judah as a Mayweather opponent, if Judah was slower and a much worse boxer.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:22
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Snowman_McK posted:I figured it was something like that, it was just a funny way to phrase it. It's a pretty common way to phrase it in boxing circles. You can watch Canelo/Chavez Jr (though you really shouldn't) if you want an example of a dude trying to box when he should clearly be trying to make it an ugly, dirty, fight. If the other guy has better technical skills often your only chance is to try and rough him up with in-fighting, wear him down with pressure, smother his punches and just put leather on him anywhere you can and try to drag him into deep waters. Basically think of what Diaz did against McGregor in their first fight. The issue is that McGregor isn't that sort of fighter at all and that's about the only way anyone manages to win rounds off of Floyd. Scapegoat posted:Has Floyd ever let anyone get under his skin in the ring? All the comments here indicate he's exceedingly disciplined. You could argue that maybe Ortiz did, but it didn't end up working out so well for Ortiz. But he's generally preternaturally composed. Watch how he reacts to the nut shot and ensuing brawl in his fight with Judah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLgYcvC1QJA Snowman_McK posted:IThanks for these. I have a great interest in boxing even though I know I'm understanding a tenth of what I'm saying. I was just remembering a quote from Holyfield where he said 'Tyson tried to box me, and that was my strength' and I didn't fully understand what else it could be for a boxer. Would anyone like to try to explain that? Or is the answer B. CTE? Watch some of Naseem Hamed fights or highlights and then watch the Barrera fight. Also watch some of the build up to the Barrera fight for the full experience.
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Jun 16, 2017 03:05
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Cards are for pussies, Conor needs to get on this level https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_dIxkJ_iEM
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Jun 23, 2017 18:44
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Jack B Nimble posted:It's Ricky hatton, both for his style and trappings, that makes me feel like we've already seen a technically better version of this fight. Watch out for those check hooks conner... Conor doesn't fight anything like Hatton.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:58
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freud mayweather posted:no one has any idea what conor boxes like outside of "poorly." The guy who has spent his entire MMA career punishing dudes from the outside with his long left hand and looking for counter opportunities probably isn't going to turn into a mauler like Hatton who spend most of his career trying to get right on top of the guys he fought. Ricky Hatton has shorter arms than Frankie Edgar.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:27
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kimbo305 posted:In the ring with Mayweather, Conor will be extremely tentative as soon as Floyd lands a counter. Floyd will be able to land at will after that. He won't fight like a boxer mostly because he won't be able to generate offense that Floyd needs to care about. I mean, who knows, maybe? But if that's the case then it sure won't look like the Hatton fight because Hatton was anything but tentative.
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Jun 27, 2017 20:18
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TBeats posted:The hype train is going to lead to another fight that 99% of people are going to say was boring and not worth the money. Most people here are saying that it will be boring and not worth the money now, though?
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Jul 5, 2017 03:45
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kimbo305 posted:What's the longest time Floyd has gone on the offensive? I can't picture how aggressive he would stay if McGregor offered just token feints to keep Floyd off. When he was much younger and fighting at lighter weights he throw in combination often and was pretty aggressive offensively. He does it much less these days, but if he's fighting a guy with no defense he will let his hands go. https://m.imgur.com/gallery/Ku7Knxf https://media.giphy.com/media/85sQjHjMQS3K0/giphy.gif
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Jul 5, 2017 21:54
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If Conor gets tired like he did in the Diaz fights Mayweather will absolutely put him away. The fight going the distance makes no difference whatsoever for making money, all of the tickets will have been sold and the ppvs bought by that point.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:56
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Marching Powder posted:Having fan unfriendly fights made him obscenely rich, and carrying a shambling Conor 12 rounds if it means people will buy his next ppv in the hopes of seeing him physically punished for wasting their time is starting to feel probable. I don't think Floyd cares about selling another ppv. I don't think he cared about this one until it became obvious that it was a huge payday for an obscenely easy amount of work. Ratios and Tendency posted:Is 12 2 minute boxing rounds somehow more tiring than 5 5 minute mma rounds? I doubt it. They're 3 minutes, so 36 total minutes of fighting, so yes, it's pretty tiring. Conor had gone five rounds once and he was running on fumes for the last three.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:17
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Just like MMA, boxing is as tiring as your opponent makes it.
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Jul 6, 2017 17:01
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TBeats posted:Oh so that's why Floyd just runs around the ring for 12 rounds Conor McGregor, shown here tiring out Nate Diaz with slick evasive defense. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uFqVZLG30kM
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Jul 6, 2017 18:17
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tesilential posted:Outside of Olympic boxing, combat sports are not legitimate sport. It's sports entertainment, every single fight event is attempting to print money. This may shock you, but every professional sport is an attempt to print money via entertaining people.
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Jul 8, 2017 17:42
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Nobody cares about boxing in the US, but it's still very popular globally. On the other hand no one anywhere cares about UFC fights not involving Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey, it seems.
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Jul 14, 2017 17:35
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I think the argument here is that it wouldn't be racist to call a black guy the n-word if you also called a Mexican guy the n-word first.
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Jul 14, 2017 19:21
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I don't see color, but my penis is huge like black mans.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:32
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:I just wanna Also point out that watch had leather straps. Do you think the straps are the things that make expensive watches expensive?
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Jul 14, 2017 22:00
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Of all of the guys who've been built up as the guy who will finally embarrass Mayweather this has to be the funniest one by far.
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Jul 19, 2017 00:44
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Ugh, I owe the IRS, guess I better fight a 1980s karate movie villain with no professional boxing experience for another 100 millions dollars, this is very embarrassing to me, Floyd Mayweather, a man born without the organ that lets you feel shame.
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Jul 19, 2017 01:37
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The old man version of Mayweather doesn't move a lot. He prefers to stand in the middle of the ring and look for potshot opportunities or hang out on the ropes and let's guys spend energy hitting his arms and shoulders. So no, that's probably not what will happen. Also, McGregor has literally turned his back and run when tired in a fight, and he will probably do it in this one after he mismanages his energy again and gets tuckered.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:47
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Every video I've seen of Conor his left is so low. Floyd's right straight is gonna land every time.
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Aug 12, 2017 05:27
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Gay Horney posted:You don't think at least eight hours a day and having a dedicated team of people work towards studying film developing techniques and daydreaming poo poo in general like it's their only job in the world because it literally is, you don't think those thousands of hours of accumulated manpower won't significantly elevate or enhance your game? What do you think Floyd's other opponents, all professional boxers, were doing with their time?
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Aug 13, 2017 01:44
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Gay Horney posted:Show me the twenty years worth of tape on Mac. Ah yes, his real advantage is that he's never actually done this before, good call.
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Aug 13, 2017 03:07
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Gay Horney posted:Don't forget wait til they qualify for retirement benefits Floyd Mayweather wasn't terminally old two years ago when he fought an actual professional boxer and won easily, but now he is decrepit and faded.
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Aug 13, 2017 04:13
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Gay Horney posted:Has Floyd fought anyone Conor's size? De La Hoya, Garcia, Ortiz, Canelo, Mosley. Yes.
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Aug 14, 2017 00:53
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Dangersim posted:Literally everyone is going to watch this lol It's going to do well, but I don't think it's gonna beat May/Pac.
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Aug 15, 2017 03:06
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Hobo Erotica posted:Do you think there is the same expenditure of energy in MMA and boxing? Trying and failing to punch someone repeatedly is very tiring. Also, boxing and MMA are different sports and require different methods of energy management, and Conor has never boxed before, ever, so yes, I think it will be more tiring for him than the sport he has done all his life.
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Aug 18, 2017 06:25
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Nate seems to be mad that boxers are saying that Conor is going to get embarrassed in a boxing match but he also says he'd take boxers over MMA fighters when it comes to punching and poo poo, so I dunno what he's actually mad at.
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Volkerball posted:People who read the results of fights in the news or spend the fight at the bar and barely pay attention. Technical skill be damned, Mayweather is boring as gently caress. I like watching Mayweather fight.
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