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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline?
This poll is closed.
The Big3 Tourney 67 22.41%
Will Lakers draft Ball 40 13.38%
Where will the Pauls go 54 18.06%
Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? 41 13.71%
Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking 97 32.44%
Total: 210 votes
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Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
The Warriors are just coming in from a hard negotiation stance initially because they know they have to make a deal with The Don. If he wants to shake hands with them in the White House they are going to need Sessions to relax his draconian attempts to implement harsher penalties for smoking the devil's lettuce.

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Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
A cat from the cat center could coach GSW to a title.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

EvanTH posted:

Mark Jackson is the only creature on the planet who couldn't coach that team to a title

The only coach with a pure negative WARP.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

RaySmuckles posted:

anyway, if anyone wanted to see a picture that perfectly encapsulates why everyone in the world should hate the warriors now here you go:



gently caress the warriors

What's the source of this and is there a higher rez version anywhere?

Obviously it's from Bleacher Report but looking at their site (which is loving terrible) I can't tell where it came from.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Niwrad posted:

I officially did not renew my Bulls tickets today. The sales person sounded pretty desperate so I'm guessing season ticket sales are way down. I did say I would renew if they fired GarPax which she thought was me making a joke.

"The joke is in your front office lady"

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

euphronius posted:

3 pick to Indiana
Pg to cle
Love to philly
Whatever else needed to make it work under the cba.

Who says no .

Why the gently caress would Cleveland want Paul George at all when they already have Lebron and let alone in exchange for Kevin Love? In that scenario would you be keen on aging Lebron grinding out games at the 4 every night? Seems completely idiotic.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Without Kevin Love the Cavs probably give up even more double digit rebounding games to Steph Curry.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
I can't wrap my mind around George to Cleveland trade scenarios. He solves literally none of their problems.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

pubic works project posted:

Well what's the one better for Cle? TT for PG or Love? Wouldn't Love have to play the 5 if they ship off TT?

The status quo is better for them.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

MourningView posted:

What do you think their problems are? Lack of a credible two way wing seems like the biggest one to me by far

Two way wing play is their team's greatest strength: they have Lebron James. I mean like I get that he maybe gets tired after being required to play 98% of the available minutes, but that's a problem with down the line depth. You can't address that problem by adding another max contract player who plays the exact same position as your greatest player, that's just not rational roster construction.

The Cavs need to somehow get a dominant center (probably impossible) or have TT develop into a more dominant one (unlikely at this point).

The Cavs could also add more shooters but they were already one of the best in the league, and it's really hard to explain how all of them went extremely ice cold in multiple NBA finals games, but if that didn't happen they could have easily taken 1 game and maybe have been looking at a much different series.

George is a ball dominant wing player that is totally unnecessary on a team with Lebron James. He's not going to facilitate or take on a 3rd banana role like Kevin Love does. Love is more effective on the team and had an overall better season than George and they are about the same age. There's literally no strategic, contract, or any rational reason at all to add George while subtracting Love for the Cavs.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
The Lakers are the absolute last team that should offer anything for Paul George because they can just get him in free agency next year without losing any assets.

It would be like an even uglier repeat of Knicks / Carmelo.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
I usually wouldn't think that was a legitimate criticism but Washington was an unusually atrocious team and only won 2 games total in their conference play.

I still think he's worth the #1 pick but like god drat that is bad.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

tanglewood1420 posted:

So outside the Brooklyn Nets disaster zone, Orlando is the worst situation in the league by far right?

This team just seems like a lighter version of the Pistons. They needed several of their picks to turn into stars and none of them have.

Vanilla Mint Ice posted:

The timing of the firing also plays into why it is so bad. The guy got fired three days before the draft for a reason that seems to have been stewing inside gilbert's colons for a while now. If he wanted him out so badly he should've done it a week earlier instead of kicking the pilot out of the airplane right before they are about to start descending

The coach and management of Cleveland has always just been figureheads to Lebron right? I mean like what do either of those jobs actually entail other than keeping Lebron happy and orchestrating what he wants? They need a 4th superstar to compete with the Warriors and they don't have the assets or cap to get one so they are probably doomed. I don't see how that's Cleveland's GM's fault though, unless he's expected to fleece other people to keep his job.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Best part of this tweet is that Charlotte is so irrelevant that the ESPN guy didn't realize they aren't the Bobcats anymore.

I think this deal is actually won by Atlanta.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
gently caress forgive me I get my Plumlees mixed up all the time. Wow this one is really bad. I politely rescind my previous opinion.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
The Lakers and Knicks should just forever not be allowed to have assets because they will always squander them on some far-fetched scheme.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

tanglewood1420 posted:

So the plan was to give up Russell, the 2nd pick and the 27th Pick to get a player who has already said he wants to sign for you for free next year.

How loving dumb is Magic jesus christ

On the contrary I think we've only scratched the surface of how dumb GM Magic Johnson is

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

zoux posted:

If Lebron leaves Cleveland again, I assume it wouldn't reach The Decision levels of rage but would it be worse than KD leaving OKC?

Nothing will ever be worse than KD joining Golden State because he was an MVP-tier player who left his team to join a 70-win team that was his main rival.

I'm sorry but I don't think anything like that will ever happen again in our lifetime.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
If the Celtics draft Josh Jackson, sign Gordon Hayward, and already employ Jae Crowder and Jaylen Brown (both under really decently cheap contracts until 2020), uhhh what do with the SF rotation???

Like at some point you have too many assets right?

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
I hate all the picks getting tweeted. These motherfuckers blowing up Woj's phone before they even get the envelope sealed. It's horse poo poo.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Carter deserves the Golden State ring.

I don't have any idea what Drummond's real value is because he still hasn't made the baseline effort to like shoot free throws at a middle school level but neither has Deandre so you could probably swap them and both teams would have the same problems.

Spurs shouldn't bounce Danny unless they have a max player lined up who can improve the backcourt considerably. Also are they still gonna have Parked and Manu on contract?

I still hate the process even as it succeeds.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

xbilkis posted:

https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/877702259697754113

-Asking price is "two starters and a pick"?
-Kristaps still hasn't talked to the Knicks other than via text?

3 + Crowder + Bradley get it done Danny

Boosh! posted:

Get outta here man.

Agree with Boosh that's way too much to offer for a dude who is leaving.

AsInHowe posted:

That Instagram model Porzingis hit on would be a better Knicks GM and owner.

Also agree.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Here's my gently caress it why not proposal:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ls5pa5y

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Wait the Wolves got the 16 pick as well???

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Bulls GM moves over the last several years is maybe one of the worst runs in sports history that I can remember.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Booker/status/878038335058358272

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Spacebump posted:

If the Spurs get CP3 will he continue the tradition of big Spurs free agent signings underwhelming once they get there? It seems like LMA is getting almost Richard Jefferson levels of hate from Spurs fans.

The LMA hate is fair because he was about as effective as 2017 Richard Jefferson in the playoffs.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Spacebump posted:

Wasn't LMA playing with an injured hip a lot of this year or did I misread that somewhere?

If he was I never heard about it. Would help explain his performance more anyways.

Who is Adam Hanga by the way I heard about him errantly a few times in these threads and once on the draft cast. Is he a guy the Spurs have been stashing?

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Dejan Bimble posted:

Jimmy Butler
Is he a top ten player? Could he be the second best player on a championship team? Is he the second best two way wing after Kawhi?

1) Yes, I think by any measure.
2) Yeah, no doubt.
3) I don't know. I think he and Giannis are about tied.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Hopefully someone choke slams his rear end

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Voting IT for all-defense team is a crime

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Hopefully with Phil riding off into the Montana sunset we never have to hear about the Triangle ever again.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Metapod posted:

Bring blake home 👏👏👏

This would be pretty fun imo. The Thunder would basically just be a dunk line.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

NickRoweFillea posted:

I hate my stupid stout Division

Paying Chandler Parsons as much as an all-NBA player is basically gonna leave the squad twisted until 2020.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

This isn't very interesting analysis. It's basically like "the good teams are well-managed!" you don't say.

I like that the Rockets are grabbing a bunch of random afterthought players for cash piles today that's actually hilarious.

I also don't know how a Paul/Harden backcourt will work together, but there's enough talent between the two of them that it doesn't really loving matter they are going to be insanely good.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Strawberry Panda posted:

Bosh is pretty much a perfect human being so you'll never have to say a bad word against him.

What about the time that porn studio tried to film a movie in his mansion but there was too much mold.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Not sure why Chandler Parsons even bothers to comment on NBA moves on social media, he basically just gets nuked from orbit endlessly.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

I got it guys:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zeryjzm

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

G-Hawk posted:

There was probably 3 teams with a realistic chance at winning a title last year, with the Rockets and Celtics next in line. The Rockets were punching above their weight because of a historic season by James Harden, generally some pretty drat good luck with health, and a pretty clever group of well fitting players, good coaching, and obsession with offensive efficiency. But they didn't have enough talent, at all. In the playoffs, their limitations got exposed and by round 2, they hit their ceiling when an offense thats just basically James Harden runs the pick n roll and makes a good decision and they either bomb 3s or charge at the rim could be stopped.

Now they've added Paul, which dramatically raises their ceiling, but yes, also has long term risks to it. The team constructed as is still isn't as good as the Warriors, and its unlikely they can make the type of acquisitions this offseason(or ever) to get to parity with the greatest team ever, but they've increased their chances of first off even getting to the WCF, and second off, winning it through either GSW injuries, luck, hot shooting, whatever. And they only have given up a late first rounder, and some rotation players with limited upside(or in Beverley's case, probably peak value) to do it. It may not end in a title, but it seems like basically the best possible option and unless the plan is to say welp gently caress it, blow it all up and tank, what else should they be doing?

Just want to say this is an excellent drat post and I agree 100%. Nothing further to even add.

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Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Lowry seems like a totally unnecessary player on the Wolves.

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