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a kitten
Aug 5, 2006



Fallen Rib

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a kitten fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2017 around 04:00

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a kitten
Aug 5, 2006



Fallen Rib

Argas posted:

She's a fake cat.

Foxes are canines running feline software.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic

a kitten posted:

Foxes are canines running feline software.

Technically Tamamo no Mae isn't even a fox but that's mostly splitting hairs at this point.

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

What's everybody's issue with Saber Lily?

I find her quite serviceable considering how poor my luck with Golds are and she's currently my best character until I can ascend EMIYA, Medusa and Jing Ke to third Ascension (Which they have the items for, just not the levels.)

Plus she's adorable and my only Saberface.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006



Fallen Rib


RMZXAnarchy posted:

What's everybody's issue with Saber Lily?

I find her quite serviceable considering how poor my luck with Golds are and she's currently my best character until I can ascend EMIYA, Medusa and Jing Ke to third Ascension (Which they have the items for, just not the levels.)

Plus she's adorable and my only Saberface.

Her and Caesar are my only freakin Sabers.

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

a kitten posted:

Her and Caesar are my only freakin Sabers.

If it weren't for free 4* servant selection at the beginning of the game netting me Chevalier it'd probably be the same honestly.

The rest all just evade me.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

RMZXAnarchy posted:

What's everybody's issue with Saber Lily?

I find her quite serviceable considering how poor my luck with Golds are and she's currently my best character until I can ascend EMIYA, Medusa and Jing Ke to third Ascension (Which they have the items for, just not the levels.)

Plus she's adorable and my only Saberface.

IIRC, it's just that for being a 4* servant, her stats are pretty low.
Sure, she does in a pinch, and hell, she was my go-to Saber until I pulled Nero and Altera, but, you can certainly do better

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


RMZXAnarchy posted:

What's everybody's issue with Saber Lily?

I find her quite serviceable considering how poor my luck with Golds are and she's currently my best character until I can ascend EMIYA, Medusa and Jing Ke to third Ascension (Which they have the items for, just not the levels.)

Plus she's adorable and my only Saberface.

Saber Lilly is usable. Basically any Servant in the game is. But Lilly has problems other Servants do not.

Their original plans were for Free Servants to not be comparable to Servants you roll. Thus, while Lilly has the cost of a 4 star, her stats are more comparable to a 3 star.

Her max attack is 7,726, by comparison Caesar's is 7,497.

She can be worked into a team. Her Journey of Flowers ability is, at max, a 20% NP gen buff, which is pretty good if you have an offensive Arts Servant.

Once the Saber Wars event happens and people can Max out her NP it does do decent damage, especially with her Mana Burst. Her NP will make decent filler then and heal her up to 5000 HP depending on overcharge.

After Lilly the developers decided that they were going to make Free Servants comparable to other 4 Stars, so she's kind of an anomaly.

a kitten posted:

Her and Caesar are my only freakin Sabers.

Dr Pepper fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2017 around 04:36

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Also her 4* Status also screws her in another way - 3* Servants have theoretically 30 levels of Grailed stats to work with - Lily will only have 20 despite working on the same stat baseline as 3* Servants.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


As my defacto Saber of choice my frustration Faber is he needs Forbidden Pages, which you cannot get any of right now. Heck I got a few servants waiting on mats we can either not get at all or can barely get without expending thousands of AP.

I see people talking about having tons of mats in the Japanese version once in a while, is that because the drop rates becoming more generous eventually or just because grinding the shops during events gives lots of materials that have slowly been stockpiled?

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


Galaga Galaxian posted:

I see people talking about having tons of mats in the Japanese version once in a while, is that because the drop rates becoming more generous eventually or just because grinding the shops during events gives lots of materials that have slowly been stockpiled?

It's both, I think.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic

Dr Pepper posted:

It's both, I think.

Personally, it's more events.

It's also because you eventually cross a threshold where you've got a lot of materials because you don't have the exp to level up your servants to use up your materials.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)


oh, you can get the dango ce even after the event is over? thanks, I guess.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic

Tired Moritz posted:

oh, you can get the dango ce even after the event is over? thanks, I guess.

Moon Cell Automaton gets put into the general pool but I think this is one of the few if not the only cases where an event CE sticks around in the non-event gacha.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Heads up:

The Kintoki rateup will include another 5* Servant every day on rotation.

So if you really want Waver/Vlad/etc you have the chance to get absolutely nothing except Black Keys if you roll on the correct sate.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010


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I already have Waver and Vlad but I'm really interested in this 5* etc.

What class is etc?

cyxx
Sep 30, 2005

Byon!


Ehhh I only care about saber alter and it's bad enough to have Martha as the rateup at the same time. But I wouldn't have minded kintoki but I really don't want any of the other SSRs so that kind of blows for me.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!



Hate-Senpai posted:

What class is etc?

MOON CANCER

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

cyxx posted:

Ehhh I only care about saber alter and it's bad enough to have Martha as the rateup at the same time. But I wouldn't have minded kintoki but I really don't want any of the other SSRs so that kind of blows for me.

3 days of the 2 weeks have Kintoki as the aole rateup if that's your jam.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


cyxx posted:

Ehhh I only care about saber alter and it's bad enough to have Martha as the rateup at the same time. But I wouldn't have minded kintoki but I really don't want any of the other SSRs so that kind of blows for me.

There are two days where Kintoki is alone as the SSR rateup.


(screenshot because I can't find a copy pasteable source and I'm not typing all that poo poo out, second week of rateups is just a repeat of the first)

cyxx
Sep 30, 2005

Byon!


Oh sweet thanks guys. I didn't realize they updated the news page with the rate up info. Guess I'll be rolling for salter on kintoki only days!

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...


Nothing there to tempt me away from Tamamo.

Maybe a ticket or two.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)


Pureauthor posted:

Heads up:

The Kintoki rateup will include another 5* Servant every day on rotation.

So if you really want Waver/Vlad/etc you have the chance to get absolutely nothing except Black Keys if you roll on the correct sate.

who cares, no gilgameshu

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Dr Pepper posted:

Nothing there to tempt me away from Tamamo.

Maybe a ticket or two.



The hoarding for the Fox continues.

EzEight
Jan 21, 2014


Dr Pepper posted:

Nothing there to tempt me away from Tamamo.

Maybe a ticket or two.

Same.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012



Just to confirm: A critndoes twice the damage and the total damage is then multiplied by 1 + critmod? Any additional effects?
And the rock paper scissor class system is also an actor 2?

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010


transcending
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i'm
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Tired Moritz posted:

who cares, no gilgameshu

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



genericnick posted:

Just to confirm: A critndoes twice the damage and the total damage is then multiplied by 1 + critmod? Any additional effects?
And the rock paper scissor class system is also an actor 2?
the class system is 1.5x, not 2x.

crits also double the the amounts of stars and np you gen. crit damage up doesn't further increase those effects, however.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


JP version is getting class-specific gachas for the next couple weeks.

http://view.fate-go.jp/2017/class2017_02/

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009


genericnick posted:

Just to confirm: A critndoes twice the damage and the total damage is then multiplied by 1 + critmod? Any additional effects?
And the rock paper scissor class system is also an actor 2?

Criticals also double your NP gain and add 20% to your star drop rate.

The RPS modifiers vary. Usually they're x2 or /2, but there are exceptions - most notably berzerkers.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



NRVNQSR posted:

Criticals also double your NP gain and add 20% to your star drop rate.

The RPS modifiers vary. Usually they're x2 or /2, but there are exceptions - most notably berzerkers.

dang i was wrogn on both of those some pro i am

Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010


Schubalts posted:

JP version is getting class-specific gachas for the next couple weeks.

http://view.fate-go.jp/2017/class2017_02/

Boooooo

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

About as obvious a bait gacha as you could ask for.

Assassons are an Extra class. It is known.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008


Another bait gacha where i can get baited into not getting Nightingale

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012



Freak Futanari posted:

Another bait gacha where i can get baited into not getting Nightingale

What do you even want her for? I find her really awkward to fit into teams.

Captain Baal
Oct 22, 2010


She's cool and her buster buff and healing stuff is actually pretty good. You need to use her as like a secondary support character, but if you can keep aggro off of her/keep her protected/swap her in for Buster memes then she's a very solid support. Her problems are more being Berserker makes her niche really weird, but she is actually pretty good.

Mind you the character herself is actually pretty funny and she's voiced by Sawashiro which helps a lot too.

Nyaa
Jan 7, 2010

Q.E.D.



RanKizama posted:

Does Tamamo Cat ever become not squishy? I want to use her, but can't find any reason to pick her over Lancelot.
When you get the special CE made for her in halloween. Then she pretty immortal unless the enemy crits her.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

Pureauthor posted:

Heads up:

The Kintoki rateup will include another 5* Servant every day on rotation.

So if you really want Waver/Vlad/etc you have the chance to get absolutely nothing except Black Keys if you roll on the correct sate.
I kind of would like to try for Waver but this otherwise feels like a trap.

kirtar
Sep 11, 2011


Nate RFB posted:

I kind of would like to try for Waver but this otherwise feels like a trap.

Same. Waver is the only one I'm somewhat interested in.

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UchihaHirou
Mar 8, 2007

Active Skill:
Solves all problems.


Nate RFB posted:

I kind of would like to try for Waver but this otherwise feels like a trap.

I'll probably do a single 10 pull on Waver day.

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