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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010



There's a Bill Hicks poster in Fiore's dressing room.

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Dave Syndrome
Jan 11, 2007
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My Lovely Horse posted:

There's a Bill Hicks poster in Fiore's dressing room.

So it is! Nice catch.



EDIT:
I couldn't find a tour poster or anything, but the man in the image is definitely Bill.

Any Hicks fans know whether the poster is a vintage design, or something the producers of the show whipped up?

Dave Syndrome fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2017 around 20:34

NarkyBark
Dec 7, 2003

one funky chicken

I loved that last episode. Hit all the right buttons for me, with pitch black dark humor.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010



I love how fast this show moves. I'm sure a lot of other shows would have waited an episode or two to have the Saint show up, spend another 2-3 on "who is this mysterious cowboy" and the same again on tracking down Fiore to help. Not Preacher, because Preacher gets poo poo done.

One thing that's starting to bug me a little bit was how a few days were apparently enough time for Fiore to become so popular that he not only attracts visitors from outside the region but also has make-a-wish kids carted to him on a regular enough basis that he's getting annoyed by it.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009



I think I kinda missed why Fiore was killing himself when he started on his casino hedonism binge. Was he hanging himself out of existential despair at first and only then realized he could Groundhog Day himself into stardom? Or was it his plan all along?

It looked like he went and cashed out a bunch of winnings, then went smartly for the suicide option then headed right back out on the floor. But how does that help him gamble? Was he resetting his identity to back out of losses or something?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

You are putting too much thought into it. He was depressed, so he 'killed' himself. He knows it won't take, but he hopes that it will. When it inevitably fails, he tries to distract himself with something else before eventually trying again.

Fiore's suicides are no different than someone depressed eating a whole tub of ice cream.

Panamaniac
Jun 18, 2007

HEROES NEVER DIE


bull3964 posted:

Fiore's suicides are no different than someone depressed eating a whole tub of ice cream.

But so much less fattening.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

I ain't got time to bleed.

precision posted:

I loved season 1 a lot and was baffled when I found out the general opinion around here was that it was bad.

The general opinion was overwhelmingly positive.

What you're seeing is how TVIV works. After a show ends, the people who praised it fan out and then everyone just begins tearing it a new rear end in a top hat. There's a few exceptions but hell, look at the Better Call Saul thread right now. That show is great, everyone was really into it and now it's mostly people bitching about it.

Again there's exceptions. The Walking Dead thread bitches about the show while it's on because it sucks, for example.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz


I'm only 3 episodes into the first season, but I was well and truly onboard by the time Cassidy and Tulip were introduced. I'm only tangentally aware of the source material so I'm going in pretty blind, but everything is ticking the right boxes, from the cast, characters, dialogue, visuals and pacing.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013


Data Graham posted:

I think I kinda missed why Fiore was killing himself when he started on his casino hedonism binge. Was he hanging himself out of existential despair at first and only then realized he could Groundhog Day himself into stardom? Or was it his plan all along?

They weren't explicit about it until this episode, but DeBlanc was actually his lover/husband, or whatever the divine equivalent of true love was, and the two of them were probably Genesis' parents -- though that's still only there through implication.

He was committing suicide out of grief, and then realised that he could use the repeated deaths (and then the generally nihilistic abandon that Cassidy encourages) as a way to avoid having to suffer. Hence the crush he develops on Cassidy.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

I remember being slightly annoyed at how confused I was for the first few episodes, and how not a ton of stuff seemed to happen, but every scene was so good and weird that it was worth continuing to watch, even if I could figure out how they were related at first. The show does a good job of putting it all together later though.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010


The only thing I really hate about any of the changes to the 3 major characters from the comic is Jessie not having his "gently caress COMMUNISM" zippo.

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017


gently caress comic books

This show owns

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.

savinhill posted:

The only thing I really hate about any of the changes to the 3 major characters from the comic is Jessie not having his "gently caress COMMUNISM" zippo.

He doesn't have it at the start of the original story either, though as far as the TV show goes the circumstances of where it originally came from will have to change.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

ZombyDog posted:

I'm only 3 episodes into the first season, but I was well and truly onboard by the time Cassidy and Tulip were introduced. I'm only tangentally aware of the source material so I'm going in pretty blind, but everything is ticking the right boxes, from the cast, characters, dialogue, visuals and pacing.

You don't have to be exposed to the source material - they're keeping with the general gist, but striking out in their own direction (especially with regards to Tulip), which is perfectly fine - some of Ennis' writing made manifest would probably cause FCC to hire an exorcist.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .


counterfeitsaint posted:

I remember being slightly extremely annoyed at how confused I was for the first few episodes, and how not a ton of stuff seemed to happen, but every scene was so good and weird Joe Gilgun was so loving hot that it was worth continuing to watch

Fixed to describe my situation.

I watched the first three episodes and was so infuriated with myself for wasting my own time that I made a promise to myself that if the fourth episode didn't hook me, I'd give up on the show forever. After watching entirely too much of Misfits for Joe Gilgun's sake, I wasn't trying to get burned again.

Of course, now I'm totally obsessed with the show. Never seen the comics, but I don't want to.

Hidingo Kojimba
Mar 29, 2010



Open Source Idiom posted:

He was committing suicide out of grief, and then realised that he could use the repeated deaths (and then the generally nihilistic abandon that Cassidy encourages) as a way to avoid having to suffer. Hence the crush he develops on Cassidy.

And then Jessie goes and ruins it all by ordering him to find peace, rather than just a gradual coping mechanism.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

Reminder: Episode 3 is tonight @ 9pm Eastern.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

I choose to expose myself

hoping for some sweet sweet Herr Starr/Grail antics

e - i guess that could be a very minor spoiler

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE AS USEFUL AS NIPPLE HORNS ON A PRIMARCH

Supreme Allah posted:

hoping for some sweet sweet Herr Starr/Grail antics

e - i guess that could be a very minor spoiler

How/when they handle that is pretty much gonna make or break the show for me.

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


hell sucks

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005



I can't believe how much better everything involving Eugene is than the comic.

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


They've walked in to Dean Pelton's office.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

Hope is a mistake


Someone spoil the gently caress out of whatever the treasure chest was supposed to mean. Tia.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

I choose to expose myself

Firstborn posted:

Someone spoil the gently caress out of whatever the treasure chest was supposed to mean. Tia.

when Jesse was a kid he was basically tortured by his mom's family, one of the punishments they regularly did was lock him in a chest with a breathing tube and left him sitting in the bottom of a river, they weren't nice people.

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!


I hope Hitler helps Arseface break out of hell. Not something I expected to type.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

mallratcal posted:

I hope Hitler helps Arseface break out of hell. Not something I expected to type.

It would be a really nifty thing if Hell has literally made every damned soul into a chill(er) form of itself. Maybe Jeffrey Dahmer turns into a serial hugger or something.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE AS USEFUL AS NIPPLE HORNS ON A PRIMARCH

Now that was a loving episode! Holy balls.

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003



I love arseface's backstory, I remember being a little confused throughout the first season because it seemed as though arseface had shot the girl and himself and as angry as everyone seemed at him, it still seemed weird that he was just out and about, creeping out the townsfolk and bugging the preacher, and not locked up. I figured maybe he was institutionalized for a time or something. But finding out what actually happened was so much better (and worse 😢) than anything I had expected.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

That episode went by so quickly, so much stuff set up, well pleased to see Herr Starr so soon.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

NonzeroCircle posted:

That episode went by so quickly, so much stuff set up, well pleased to see Herr Starr so soon.

The wide shot of Starr in his office being so similar to Odin's can't be a coincidence.

Also, that Eugene scene was brutal. He just got rejected worse than any man in history and he's still trying to scoop her brains back into her skull.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE AS USEFUL AS NIPPLE HORNS ON A PRIMARCH

That reveal of the Grail agents and Herr Starr was basically exactly what I wanted so I'm totally jazzed.

We'll see how Starr goes from here, but they absolutley nailed the look of him, they didn't pull any punches. And the Grail also just already has the perfect aesthetic and attitude translated from the comic. As much as they changed other elements of the comic and it was good to adapt them, this needed to stay the same and I'm made it through the translation completely intact.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003
Fear my Shark Rocket

Am I the only one oddly annoyed that his nameplate said "Herr K. Starr"? I don't think the founder of Tesla has "Sir Elon Musk" on his desk.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

Whilst they're in Nawlins I wonder if they'll bring in L'Enfants du Sangue too just to make it as poo poo for Cassidy as the others

mallratcal
Sep 10, 2003

Goodnight Canada!


BIG HEADLINE posted:

It would be a really nifty thing if Hell has literally made every damned soul into a chill(er) form of itself. Maybe Jeffrey Dahmer turns into a serial hugger or something.

Hell being used to actually reform people would be neat.

Medullah posted:

Am I the only one oddly annoyed that his nameplate said "Herr K. Starr"? I don't think the founder of Tesla has "Sir Elon Musk" on his desk.

I think Starr would be just the type of rear end in a top hat to have "Mr." or other title on his nameplate.

mallratcal fucked around with this message at Jul 4, 2017 around 22:25

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE AS USEFUL AS NIPPLE HORNS ON A PRIMARCH

Medullah posted:

Am I the only one oddly annoyed that his nameplate said "Herr K. Starr"? I don't think the founder of Tesla has "Sir Elon Musk" on his desk.

Tesla isn't exactly the same thing.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


Eugene

At least he's got his buddy Hitler for company now!

With all the doors opening, I'm wondering if Hell has been abandoned or this is something that just happens regularly where everybody is let out and given the briefest of breaks from their eternal torment just to make it all the worse when they realize they have to go back to it?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE AS USEFUL AS NIPPLE HORNS ON A PRIMARCH

Jerusalem posted:

Eugene

At least he's got his buddy Hitler for company now!

With all the doors opening, I'm wondering if Hell has been abandoned or this is something that just happens regularly where everybody is let out and given the briefest of breaks from their eternal torment just to make it all the worse when they realize they have to go back to it?

That's *exactly* what I was thinking when I saw the lady say that part of Hell was shutting down.

On the one hand, its Preacher, God is missing, Heaven is confused and clueless; its entirely possible that Hell is incompetent. That would match the tone.

On the other hand, its HELL. It doesn't make sense that they'd rely on technology and it would fail? It seems more likely to me that this is part of hell, its happening on purpose to gently caress with them and give them hope that maybe they'll escape hell, only to find themselves being lead to the next level of hell which is somehow even worse than the first phase (re-living the worst part of your life/death over and over)

Eugene and Hitler: Adventures in Hell is the buddy comedy I never knew I wanted but god drat its so good. Can't wait to see who else is in there.

And did everybody notice the sorta-subtle "Hitler!" audio when he appeared? That was pretty great, I think. Just in case there was any doubt as to who it was.

Medullah
Aug 13, 2003
Fear my Shark Rocket

Zaphod42 posted:

Tesla isn't exactly the same thing.

Just used the name as an example. I can see "General Starr" if he were military, but Herr is just Sir.

Again, little thing, irrational, still bugs me.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

MY OPINIONS ARE AS USEFUL AS NIPPLE HORNS ON A PRIMARCH

Medullah posted:

Just used the name as an example. I can see "General Starr" if he were military, but Herr is just Sir.

Again, little thing, irrational, still bugs me.

He's not a general though so he can't go with that. And Starr is the kind of dickhead that would require people to refer to him just so. heh, you know what I mean

"Head of Samson Unit Starr" is too wordy

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