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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
This is the non-spoiler thread for the weekly episode discussion!

Big Brother US airs three-times weekly, on Sundays, Wednesdays and Thursdays on CBS.

Thursday Show - Live Show where a player is evicted, Head of Household competition held or begins
Sunday Show - Post-HOH Competition events, HOH Nominations
Wednesday Show - Veto Competition, Re-nominations if needed

The season starts June 28th! The theme for this season is Destination Temptation. This season the HGs will step into the Summer of Temptation, where they'll be challenged with tempting offers that could give them money, power, and safety in the game. On Sundays, the HGs will discover the Den of Temptation, a room that holds yet another enticement that, if accepted, will potentially unleash a game-breaking consequence upon the entire house. America will also get to vote for the HGs they want to send into the Den of Temptation, which lets fans influence the game in spectacular Big Brother fashion.

What is Big Brother?

Depending upon your level of appreciation for gross filth, reality TV shenanigans and sometimes excellent strategic gameplay, Big Brother is either the bottom of the TV barrel or an entertaining way to waste the summer. The American version of the Dutch original, Big Brother crams around 16 people in a soundstage house for approximately 95 days. Each week the players or "Houseguests" will compete in competitions to determine who has power in the house. The one who wins this power, the "Head of Household" (HOH) has the ability to nominate two people for eviction. These two players, the HOH and three other randomly drawn guests will compete in the Power of Veto competition. The winner of this power will have the ability to veto one of the nominations. If one of the nominations is vetoed, the HOH will have to replace the player who was removed. Once the final two nominees are set, the rest of the house will vote to evict one person from the game. The HOH no longer plays a part unless this vote becomes a tie, in which case they will cast a vote to break it. Once the player is evicted, all the guests save for the previous HOH will compete in a new HOH competition and the process will repeat itself.

Each week will follow this model with some minor variations. All through this process viewers are treated to "Diary Room" (DR) sessions, as the producers will privately speak with each player about their gameplay, their thoughts on other players and the game itself. This interview process also gives the DR the ability to affect the players in subtle or not so subtle ways. (Ex: So you won HOH, who will you nominate? Do you trust player X? Why? Do you believe what they say? Do you think you should make a big move? Is nominating player X really a big move?) The best part of this is that their usually comes across on the live feeds, allowing viewers to see from where plans and moves really come.

Strategy will come into play as alliances are made and broken to ensure ones safety. Unlike some shows like Survivor, this gives the chance for those low on the totem pole to gain power and strike back against majority alliances. Approximately 4-5 weeks into the game, all future evicted players will become members of the jury. Once the house reaches the final three, all three Houseguests will compete in three rounds of competition for the final HOH. Once the final HOH is selected, they'll evict the final player. These final two will then go before the jury, who will then select a winner. The various competitions within the house means there are often several opportunities for people to obtain power and exploit it or fake sucking at competitions to fly under the radar. Both strategies often prove successful to various degrees. The strategy sessions among players often prove to be one of the best aspects of the show, as you get a daily running idea of who they are targeting, who they can manipulate to do certain things and ways to ensure they achieve their goals. There is also a generally reliable amount of schadenfreude, as those on the top often hit lows through luck or DR meddling.

Why should I watch?

Perhaps you're a fan or Survivor or Amazing Race or perhaps you've seen one of the other flavors of Big Brother from around the world like the U.K., Canadian or Australian edition. Big Brother U.S. takes many of the same concepts seen in reality competition while also giving one a semi-behind the scenes view of what's really going on. Because the online "live feeds" gives viewers a window into the house for 90% of the week, we can get a good idea of what's really happening with alliances and schemes, what the players are actually like, and what meddling is possibly happening by Big Brother to get certain things to happen. One can then compare that version of reality against what they see on their screens three nights a week on CBS. In past experience, this means that viewers are sometimes treated to racist, homophobic or sexist talk which never makes air. Sometimes this happens to such a degree as to force CBS to acknowledge these actions officially and on air, as was the case with Big Brother 15.

Unlike the original Dutch version and several other international versions, the viewing public generally has no part to play in removing players from the game. However they can affect certain punishments or rewards through online or phone voting. This can include the gross food choices for the Have Not competition losers, or possibly secret tasks assigned to the House Guests.

What should I watch?

If you're interested in looking into past seasons, I personally recommend checking out a couple of seasons to various degrees. They'll all available through CBS All Access on the cbs.com website:

Big Brother 1: Most closely followed the original Dutch premise, as viewers voted on who got evicted. The only U.S. season to follow this model.
Big Brother 2: Switched up the format to have the HOH nominate two for eviction and features one of the most highly regarded players in show history.
Big Brother 3: Introduced the Power of Veto, which gave the nominated a better chance to save themselves. BB US took on its present form with this season.
Big Brother 7: The first and only true All Stars season. Featured players from all the previous seasons, and includes one of the fan favorite alliances in show history.
Big Brother 10: General Goon consensus as one of the best seasons, featuring a memorable cast and another contestant in the running for the best in show history.
Big Brother 12: Worthy winner, with some solid gameplay. Features subsequent Survivor player Hayden Moss and unleashed Brenchel, the now married couple of Brendon and Rachel who you might have seen on The Amazing Race.
Big Brother 14: Return of four previous players who act as "Coaches" to newbies. One of the returnees being a fan favorite who displays some of the best gameplay in show history. Also features the brother of Survivor player Russell Hantz, who lives up to the family reputation.
Big Brother 16: Solid gameplay from the eventual winner, who ran a clinic on how not to get targeted.

Seasons to avoid:

Big Brother 9: Slap dash writers strike spring season. The winner later went to jail for illegal oxycodone sales, the rest of the cast was all generally horrible. Possibly worthwhile as a train wreck.
Big Brother 15: The misogynist and racist season. The winner played a decent game, but they and most of the players were generally derogatory and deluded people.

Okay, I'm down to watch

If you're interested, you can tune in several ways:

The CBS Show: Airs three nights a week: Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday. Is a compilation version of what has happened in the house with a live Thursday show.
Big Brother After Dark: Airs every night for three hours from around 11-2 on POP. Rotates between live feeds, censors language and has commercial breaks.
Live Feeds Online through CBS All Access: "24/7" access to the feeds barring ceremonies, competitions and the Thursday live show taping. Also blanks out feeds when some legal issue may arise. i.e. copyrighted song singing or players speaking about someone by name who didn't sign off and allow that.
CBS also provides clips of various memorable events through their Live Streaming Player.

So what do the Live Feeds get you? Four camera feeds from inside the house. Generally two cameras focusing on an area each. Meaning two cameras will cover the same conversation from different angles, while two other cameras cover another conversation. Which room is being covered will be at the mercy of the guys and gals in the control room. They are generally good about switching to conversations/events most at interest strategically or those the most entertaining. It should be noted that live feeds are not required to get a feel for the show or keep up, but it might be of interest to check out one of the previous seasons, then look for live feed clips online to see how it works. If you do find you enjoy a certain player, the feeds give you the ability to see them a lot more, get a better sense of their game and personality.

If you don't get the feeds, you can also still get a daily/hourly/minute by minute run down of what's happening. As several websites post updates on everything that happens on the live feeds within the house. These include:

http://www.bigbrothernetwork.com
http://www.hamsterwatch.com
http://www.jokersupdates.com
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com

If you wish to jump in the live feeds and talk spoilers, head over to the live feeds spoiler thread here.

Teek fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jun 27, 2017

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Season 19 Cast:

Christmas Abbott - 35, Lynchburg, VA; Fitness superstar
Paul Abrahamian - 24, Tarzana, CA; Fashion designer
Matthew Clines - 33, Arlington, VA; Renovation consultant
Dominique Cooper - 30, Tuskegee, AL, Government engineer
Elena Davies - 26, Fort Worth, TX; Radio personality
Jason Dent - 37, Humeston, IA; Rodeo clown
Jessica Graf - 26, Cranston, RI; VIP concierge
Cameron Heard - 24, North Aurora, IL; Microbiologist
Mark Jansen - 26, Grand Island, NY; Personal trainer
Megan Lowder - 28, Cathedral City, CA; Dog walker
Josh Martinez - 23, Miami, FL; Haircare sales
Cody Nickson - 32, Lake Mills, IA; Construction sales rep
Alex Ow - 28, Thousand Oaks, CA; Eco-friendly marketing rep
Jillian Parker - 24, Celebration, FL; Timeshare sales rep
Kevin Schlehuber - 55, Boston, MA; Stay-at-home dad
Ramses Soto - 21, Grand Rapids, MI; Cosplay artist
Raven Walton - 23, DeValls Bluff, AR; Dance teacher


Teek fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Jun 29, 2017

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
A little over 24 hours until the season premiere Wednesday night.

https://twitter.com/agrodner22/status/879770913230565376

Sure would be nice to be seeing this on the live feeds Grodner! :argh:

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, boy they really don't want Paul to go, do they? Why don't you trust in your cast BB?

Poor Cameron, he got screwed. Too early to make meaningful connections with anyone, to have that decided by a vote day 1 is lovely.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

STAC Goat posted:

I wonder if Megan is actually doing something that both Josh and Cody had these seemingly bizarre reactions to her or is she just the older, slightly quirky "different" person who they're lashing out against.

Well, I guess based on the flashback we saw, she apparently talked about getting out the big guys, right in front of Josh? Why would even you do that? Josh isn't muscleman, but he's no Ramses or Kevin. Josh never brought that up in front of everyone, but I'm guessing it was addressed with Cody at some point.

Teek fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jun 30, 2017

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Reading secondhand that a recent Grodner interview about the first week that she felt Megan might have been overplaying. So Megan might be doing "too much, too soon" with her game.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Some hype for the upcoming Wednesday show. There was some good fallout from the nominations, so everyone might want to drop in to see the house get stirred up.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Best way that could go, Josh will be Paul's puppet, but I want him strutting around in the HOH robe 24/7.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

ToastyPotato posted:

Jury clearly gave Paul a chance to own up to his game, and he flat out didn't multiple times. But I would say getting blown up in the goodbyes might have done more damage. Is this a first? Losing because of goodbyes? Would be interesting to see if goodbye messages end up becoming an actual strategic part of the game going forward. Funny it took a fan to weaponize them.

The thing is, the good players and winners always weaponized the goodbye messages. Look back at Dan and Derrick and they always used the messages to TLC the people voted out with both apologies, and also using it to highlight their gameplay and why they voted them out.

It takes a rare breed for someone who can dunk on the evicted in their messages and still win the game.

Hilarious that Cody was pulled last to tank Paul. Paul finished this season with the same problems as last season, he's horrible at managing people and has almost zero self-awareness.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
This was an absolutely sad season, which featured great competitions, but had a largely useless cast and poorly timed gimmicks. Would really have been interesting to see how this would have played out without a first day boot, without Paul, without the constant multi-week stuck in place production decisions and without Christmas having a broken foot. That's at the minimum, casting someone like Alex who reveled in "I just want to come in second so I can be invited back and win" is absolutely shameful. She never hid that during her interviews. I have to wonder who it is in production who is making so many of those poorly thought out final casting choices when the same casting team largely has so much better luck with BB Canada.

Teek fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Sep 21, 2017

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Congrats to Josh for winning this season.

I'll leave the spoiler discussion thread open for now.

I'll open a new episode discussion thread for BB Celebrity Edition this winter once we know what format it will take.

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