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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Spikeguy posted:

When I was a kid, I spent $75 on Superman 64 and spent several weeks trying to convince myself it was worth the money.

Lol

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Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009
I hate blizzard all of their games are garish garbage. I loving hate their art direction so much.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

The infinity engine ruined isometric RPGs and the only good ones since were made by Spiderweb software.
this is true

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
I don't get why open world games are so popular, and I grow increasingly frustrated at myself with each one I buy based on raving reviews and forum buzz.

Open world games consist of 99% unfun poo poo games and 1% cool fun games like Saints Row, Dragons Dogma and Shadow of Mordor that are good in spite of being open world. They'd be good regardless of the size of the map or the linearity of the story because they have cool fun mechanics for cool fun people, and there isn't a quest in sight. Quests are the reality TV of video games. They're the lowest possible form of entertainment, or at least tied with achievements for that dubious claim to shame.

The poster child for open world games, Skyrim, barely even has a loving combat system. Coming to that thing from Dark Souls felt like a Kings New Clothes hoax. You're all just pretending it's a good game because everyone else does too, right? It's barely even a game. You just pick up tableware and put it somewhere else for 999 hours.

Don't even get me started on the other big competing open world franchise, the Witcher. The Witcher 3 is a million quests with weapons grade exposition dumps attached, alternating between boring you to death with endless walks through the woods and endless walks through town to find quests. It has combat mechanics, unlike your other favourite abomination, but combat was more awkward than building a house exclusively with a swiss army knife. Playing the Witcher 3 felt like being strapped into the Clockwork Orange torture chair, forced to watch the Hobbit movies.

What the gently caress, people? What. The. gently caress.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Jun 22, 2017

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009
this thread just immediately swerved into angry complaining, as is the goon style

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
I was shameful for the opening sentence. :smith:

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
i actually hate having fun. i dont understand what the big deal is?

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Then how about this for shamefull : I actually enjoy bioware style romances in video games.

Could absolutely do without the sex scenes themselves though, those are unnecesary and often just cringeworthy.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I used to organize pug raids in Wow and if the items I wanted dropped I would wait until everyone left and steal those items. Especially mounts.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
I ended up renting every SNES and N64 Clayfighter enough times that I could have bought each of them all at retail price.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


My shameful confession is that I have a much higher opinion of a game if I can actually finish it, and for these reasons I believe Super Monkey Ball 2 is superior to the Witcher 3.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
My confession is that I find the shooting in the new wolfenstein and doom to be pretty lackluster. They're still fun games but the weapons do not feel satisfying at all to me, especially doom's shotgun.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Donnerberg posted:

I ended up renting every SNES and N64 Clayfighter enough times that I could have bought each of them all at retail price.

You should have because IIRC the N64 Blockbuster-exclusive version is one of the rarest N64 games and worth a ton of money

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


CJacobs posted:

My confession is that I find the shooting in the new wolfenstein and doom to be pretty lackluster. They're still fun games but the weapons do not feel satisfying at all to me, especially doom's shotgun.

I'll agree on Wolfenstein and even the shotgun in Doom, but the Gauss Cannon and Chaingun from doom are 2 of the most satisfying weapons I've ever used in an FPS, especially with the alternate modes like Chaingun's turret mode.

I also think Doom has an advantage over Wolfenstein in terms of the gore level and speed etc., even when using a less meaty weapon like the shotgun or even the basic energy pistol, combat in Doom is constantly intense and awesome.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Kelp Me! posted:

You should have because IIRC the N64 Blockbuster-exclusive version is one of the rarest N64 games and worth a ton of money

I wish. My rental was a Norwegian PAL version without the Blockbuster fighters though.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Donnerberg posted:

I ended up renting every SNES and N64 Clayfighter enough times that I could have bought each of them all at retail price.

N64 Clayfighter owned really hard I don't know how you could feel shame about this.

Night Blade
Feb 25, 2013

Plebian Parasite posted:

Blizzard is probably the worst game dev on the planet, they don't do anything but turn good ideas from other devs into a sparkly manipulative garbage for the easily fascinated and they're almost singlehandedly responsible for the worst trends in gaming.

Blizzard has only a vague idea at best on how to design a competitive game, but infinity money + dedicated fanbase props up their "ESPORTZ" scene well so everyone jumps on the Overwatch bandwagon.

Can we stop making everything open world for no reason? Please? Most open world games are comprised of huge, boring worlds with nothing going on in them:

IE: GAME OF THE YEAR Breath of the Wild. There's nothing as palpable as the disappointment you feel when travelling up a long staircase in an abandoned citadel only to find MORE Ganon fart juice and a beacon tower and... nothing else.

GTA open worlds are cool because the game had a main mission set AND optional side content that you got through exploring the world. Most modern open world games are only comprised mostly the optional side content, and it's boring as a result.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Would people complaining about Breath of the Wild have liked it better if it had Dark Souls world design where every area more or less organically flowed into the next and every little alcove and piece of literal poo poo could be mined for "story" nuggets?

Disclaimer: I am not defending BotW because I have not played it in any form.

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Wanna hear some hosed up poo poo?

I like Street Fighter 5 and have bought every single piece of DLC for it to date.

Sonic 4... was good.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


man nurse posted:

Wanna hear some hosed up poo poo?

I like Street Fighter 5 and have bought every single piece of DLC for it to date.

Sonic 4... was good.

Sonic 4 wasn't great but it certainly wasn't the flaming abomination people make it out to be

Generations was easily the best Sonic game since the Genesis games though (never played CD so it might be good I dunno). Mania should be sweet too.

Sinistral
Jan 2, 2013
I prefer Dante's redesign.

Dragon Age 2 is my favorite RPG.

I bought Play Station All Stars. And all the DLC. And I liked it

ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

Two of my favorite games growing up were Civilization 1 and 2...for the SNES and PS1, respectively. I liked Civ2 because I used a GameShark to get infinite money. I never completed a session of either game on PC because I was too used to the console versions to want to try.

My favorite Zelda game is Link's Awakening because it's the only one I've played for more than an hour. Ditto for Final Fantasy and FF Tactics.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

I don't get the allure of 'hard' games?
Do people LIKE failing?

I respect Dark Souls mechanically and thematically but I could only try something 20 times before beating it so many times before I was like 'this is somebody else's game'

Related: I also don't get slavish devotion to the notion of retro.
I mean, I like retro. But I like retro that takes into account the last 30 years of video game evolution. Games that are intentionally counter-intuitive just to evoke a sense of nostalgia are just...nuts. Developers are telling their fans 'remember when this sucked and was awful 30 years ago. Well with your support we can make it suck and be awful again so you can ruminate on your sucky and awful childhood'

exquisite tea posted:

My shameful confession is that I have a much higher opinion of a game if I can actually finish it, and for these reasons I believe Super Monkey Ball 2 is superior to the Witcher 3.

Really the thing about this confession that stands out the most is that you beat a Super Monkey Ball game. Well done.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jun 23, 2017

Simsmagic
Aug 3, 2011

im beautiful



Even though Team Fortress 2 is bloated, unoptimized and dying, it's still more fun than Overwatch

Lant
Jan 8, 2011

Muldoon
I have almost 3000 hours played of Final Fantasy 12.

I think Sonic Unleashed is a good game.

Every Bioware game has bad writing and follows the exact same formula.

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

ChrisBTY posted:

I don't get the allure of 'hard' games?
Do people LIKE failing?

I respect Dark Souls mechanically and thematically but I could only try something 20 times before beating it so many times before I was like 'this is somebody else's game'
I don't get the appeal of 'easy' games?
Do people LIKE breezing through all of a game's content without any meaningful challenge or skill progression?

Orv
May 4, 2011
Mods please rename thread to Goon Empathy Training Station.

OutofSight
May 4, 2017
I consider all Dark Souls titles enjoyable games. And i ike Demon's and Bloodborne to for their thing.

But i hate most of the so-called Soulsborne community, be it the "pve learning is hard" scrubs, "pvp is stupid" pubbies, the or he "git gud" overcompensating veterans. Everytime is read one of those nerds' post, i want to punch him in the next sewer.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

I don't get the appeal of 'easy' games?
Do people LIKE breezing through all of a game's content without any meaningful challenge or skill progression?

Yes.
Succeeding is fun.
Failure is God's punishment upon the human soul.

(also; I might have issues)

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

ajkalan posted:

Two of my favorite games growing up were Civilization 1 and 2...for the SNES and PS1, respectively. I liked Civ2 because I used a GameShark to get infinite money. I never completed a session of either game on PC because I was too used to the console versions to want to try.

Same here, at least as far as Civ2 goes. Loved that stupid PS1 version, even if the load times late in a game were atrocious because it was a PS1.

My first time playing Xcom was also that obscure longbox PS1 version.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

marshmallow creep posted:

Would people complaining about Breath of the Wild have liked it better if it had Dark Souls world design where every area more or less organically flowed into the next and every little alcove and piece of literal poo poo could be mined for "story" nuggets?

Disclaimer: I am not defending BotW because I have not played it in any form.

on that note can every video game channel stop making loving 2 to 3 hour videos about souls games. why the gently caress does everything in this game have to be analyzed infinitely like the loving code of hammurabi. "here's another 20 minute video about a giant boss who has the same loving mechanics as the last 6 bosses"

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


DLC Inc posted:

on that note can every video game channel stop making loving 2 to 3 hour videos about souls games. why the gently caress does everything in this game have to be analyzed infinitely like the loving code of hammurabi. "here's another 20 minute video about a giant boss who has the same loving mechanics as the last 6 bosses"

IS THIS GAME THAT EVERYBODY THINKS IS GOOD ACTUALLY A HUGE FAILURE?!?!!

*size 24 impact font, downward facing red arrow in thumbnail, 37:04 length*
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Kris xK
Apr 23, 2010
I don't like Witcher 3
I loving hate Dark Souls
The new Xcoms are weak, shallow copies of the original greatness
I hate Blizzard games, yet own all of them
I've never finished a lot of big RPGs, like Divinity 2, Wasteland 2, Shadowrun, Fallout NV or 4, any Elder Scrolls, etc etc

Honestly, I think the last game that I truely loved was Jagged Alliance 2.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Avalerion posted:

Never played those, but say Witcher 3 would be nothing without the story, the gameplay itself is just kind of mediocre.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I really, honestly didnt care for Witcher 3's story. The hunts were the interesting part to me, it was nice to play as Geralt doing CSI: Novograd and tracking down beasties. All the crap about ciri and the Wild Hunt just went in one ear and out the other.

The Bloody Baron was a good story, but mostly because it was a monster hunt with the 3 witches stretched out over several quests.

Setting and characters are way more important than plot, IMO. Give me more loving around with Geralt and Dandilion in Novograd or Geralt and Yen and that one rear end in a top hat witcher in Caer Mohren instead of bs about the wild hunt any day.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Jim Barris posted:

I hate blizzard all of their games are garish garbage. I loving hate their art direction so much.

I hate christopher metzen but he still managed to make a better Soldier 76

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Meme Emulator posted:

I hate christopher metzen but he still managed to make a better Soldier 76



Ah yes, a fellow graduate of the Rob Liefeld School of Design.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Avalerion posted:

Then how about this for shamefull : I actually enjoy bioware style romances in video games.

Could absolutely do without the sex scenes themselves though, those are unnecesary and often just cringeworthy.

I want more bioware style romance in video games. But I get bored to death by Visual Novels. It's a conundrum.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

The last video game I really, really enjoyed with no reservations was Chromehounds, natch. TW:W (with mods) is the only game I have felt the same way about since then, but I guess that means I had reservations.

:thunk:

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Spikeguy posted:

I want more bioware style romance in video games. But I get bored to death by Visual Novels. It's a conundrum.

From the ones I've checked out visual novels are just soft core porn, and you'll get like 2-3 choices to make through them at most? It's a shame because I think the format does have potential to tell actual good stories, just none seems to try.

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Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I will never understand the appeal of romances in video games. It just feels weird most of the time.

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