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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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COP I'M COP COP DON'T VOTE ME I'M COP COP IT'S ME I AM AN OFFICER OF THE LAW

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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This game has a pretty good player list. I'm on board.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Goal for this game: Make out with Dhaes, my friend, my brother, my secret lover.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Alright, I'm kind of lazily going through the game, reading up on mod posts first, help me out and keep me informed on a good read through:

1.) Was an explanation given for fisk's lack of a flip? I'm assuming not, just want to get it clear first before going forward.

2.) Why was there a shift off of gif? Why did a vote fall apart day one?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Alright, another quick readthrough of Fisk's posts, they're all pretty mild. I'm looking at it and thinking that Fisk could have been a low post count kill? Anything I'm missing?

Because if he was killed either because he was irritating somebody or because he was posting less than others, that gives us some information, particularly the latter case, since gif has posted less than fisk.

I'm always very wary when a vote candidate doesn't get it pushed through like what happened d1.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

Uh, you're an inventor, why are you claiming cop

Wow, look at this guy, "cops aren't smart enough to also be inventors" smh smh.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Pinterest Mom posted:

Taste replaced in late in the day for BK, I don't think low-post-count makes sense (especially given that people like gif probst had like, 3 posts)

Great, thank you for this.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Before I read, what's the reasoning on the YT push that has happened today?

gif's claim is weird.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Deadline in two hours. We had no execution day one.

What's the case on YT?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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I'm on board.

##vote Probst

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Yup, I (or rather, who I replaced) visited gif night one.

The events from that led me to think he was scum, that is why I started going after him early.

I was mistaken.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

I don't see what sort of results Keane could have gotten to suggest Gif was scum.

-A cop result would have been town.
-A tracker result would have seen him going nowhere.
-A watcher result would have seen taste and YT visiting him...which wouldn't have made him think he was scum


....am I missing anything else?

Yes.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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I don't get foo, can somebody explain the case to me?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Dhaes posted:

Also I will never vote Keane. 😎🍍🛩️

Same, buddy.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Dhaes posted:

what a dumb question 😴 what do you think quid 🕵️

💩💩💩

Quid forgets that we each have the Win Condition Zero of "have a good time hanging with bros" and we can't act against our alignment smh smh.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

Holy poo poo, we actually have no idea if Fisk was town or scum. They could have been a survivor mason pair or a duo team SK.

YT has also kinda checked out. Could be why. I wonder if they poisoned Probst and we dunked him.

Both seem unlikely.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

You could shoot Foo too, I think he's been pretty not helpful still!

Also I still don't like Keane's claim.

I'm going to call you Santiago because you're fishing and not going to get anything.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Did Fisk do anything to confirm YT?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Hal Incandenza posted:

Not that anyone can see.

He did tell YT to read his PMs at one point which implies masons at least

There's a huge difference between masons and confirmed masons.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Captain Foo posted:

mafia edit im a moron, ayc became keane

And what a stunning change it was. *flexes*

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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I'm thinking YT is goofy town, taking a HOT LOOK.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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YT's arguments and posts make sense for how YT plays, based on my interactions with him: They're all logically consistent, just whacky. He's the Clarence Thomas of mafia.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Take a look at YT's arguments for no voting day one - it seems to mirror his latest posts w/r/t his masonry and role with Fisk.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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CCKeane posted:

Take a look at YT's arguments for no voting day one - it seems to mirror his latest posts w/r/t his masonry and role with Fisk.

To be clear: I think YT's hot takes were very much in the vain of "I AM RIGHT EVEN IF IT GETS ME VOTED" which is a mistake, of course, dying on that particular hill is absurd.

That said, his dying on the masonry hill and how towny he was also strikes me the same way. I think I'm off YT.

That said, THIS POST:

Retro Futurist posted:

I mean if YT were going to make up a fake claim, the fact that Fisk gave him a vague statement about sending him a message would be a good start

Now that got me thinking.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Eh, RF doesn't look as bad as I thought, looking at the post history.

Not spectacular, but it's got SOME TAKES.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Retro Futurist posted:

Why would anyone assume Keane was telling the truth?

I'm very handsome.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Hal Incandenza posted:

This folio of tasteful nudes says otherwise

Haha yeah like there are nude photos where my face is visible smh smh

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

Yes. With a confirmed town flip from probst I am struggling to see what role I am missing that would have lead Keane to believe probst was scum

I'm sorry to hear that.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Now that FFV is over I see a lot of similarities behind his play there and his play here. He was town there.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Dhaes posted:

So this talk of bread crumbs got me thinking
Cause sometimes they can be really useful
Usually though they are useless
Myself, I would never do one

Honestly I see nothing won't with saying jot instead of joat
Unless you guys can think of a way to fit joat into a sentence
Not counting the lame "hey I'm a joat"
To be fair I think that would be funny
Exciting though it may be, it wouldn't be a very good crumb
Ridiculous claims and crumbs always make the game more fun though



Man I love playing with you Dhaes.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

LMAO what it Keane is a scum rolecop and was banking on having to roll with that if forced to claim and now Pmom flipped "TOWN Rolecop" and he's hosed. XD

I'll mention my role when it's convenient. You're not going to get a bite out of me so please stop fishing.

Additionally, gif's role is more town than not???

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quid has attempted to fish my role more than do anything else all day. I don't like it.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quid really, really wants to know more about my role, which I claim gave me (obviously mistaken) information I could use to surmise alignment:

Quidthulhu posted:

I don't see what sort of results Keane could have gotten to suggest Gif was scum.

-A cop result would have been town.
-A tracker result would have seen him going nowhere.
-A watcher result would have seen taste and YT visiting him...which wouldn't have made him think he was scum


....am I missing anything else?

Quidthulhu posted:

You could shoot Foo too, I think he's been pretty not helpful still!

Also I still don't like Keane's claim.

Quidthulhu posted:

There's a role that would have had Keane feeling like Probst was scum!

Still not the role Keane has. Still doubting his statement.

Quidthulhu posted:

LMAO what it Keane is a scum rolecop and was banking on having to roll with that if forced to claim and now Pmom flipped "TOWN Rolecop" and he's hosed. XD

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

I want to know what you were doing because you got caught visiting a flipped town member and your response has been dodgy and unhelpful, which makes me believe you were doing something scum related. My not letting this slide is called "harping on a point."

Orrrrrr you really want to know what the mechanic was that got me thinking the way I was thinking, and are looking for a way to subvert it~~~

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

I want to know what you were doing because you got caught visiting a flipped town member and your response has been dodgy and unhelpful, which makes me believe you were doing something scum related. My not letting this slide is called "harping on a point."

Me, knowing the reasoning: "I believe revealing my role is not useful to the town."

You, with less information: "I disagree! It is scummy!"

So what we have here is Quid attempting to force me to reveal my role (and, to be clear, he was dancing around coming out aggressively about it - he says "hmmm that's scummy" a lot but doesn't really push for it). This is scummy because if Quid is town, "I will not reveal my role" should either end the conversation or blow it up right then, without testing the waters so much. If Quid is scum, on the other hand, he can either force a reveal, or, potentially, lead an execution if he gets even support - support I believe he was feeling out with earlier posts about my role.

This is scummy.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Yorkshire Tea posted:

There are lots of other things, but they're not things I'd be so cagey about mentioning as a town player. That's honestly what's making me as suspicious as I am.

I do actually see a situation where a town Keane would want to remain quiet though (after a little think about it) and would have made that mistake, but I'm laying fairly low odds on it.

Since you're a logical player:

1.) Being quiet about roles can make it difficult for scum to properly address it. Let's say I had a one shot, and poof, it's gone? Well, now maybe scum will waste a roleblock on me. Or kill me! And get less utility from it.

2.) It's not always roles being weird, but roles can interact in weird ways and make things seem strange. Getting more information is useful here.

3.) Scum would be feeling a lot of anxiety about me now, no?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Dhaes posted:

Keane this is of utmost importance number 1 priority i need input

I believe it's talking sink worms.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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I was blocked during the night.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

I think Keane is full of poo poo.

Nah.

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

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Quidthulhu posted:

What is your role, Keane? This is DULO

My name, "brutal cop". I get a result, my target is roleblocked that night.

Gif came back "mafia". I cleverly breadcrumbed my role in my first post of the game.

RF I investigated night two. He came back "not mafia".

I was blocked night three.

Don't know the reason for the results.

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