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Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof

Kal-L posted:

I think that was more of a Hail Mary play. Ruth knew that Debbie would be in the audience at least, and was setting it up in the hope that Debbie would finally go all in and embrace being Liberty Belle.

Edit:



Fair enough. I only wish there was more time devoted to her to give more hints of it. Or maybe they did set it up really well, because when THAT happened, I was left as confused as Sam

She was wearing a Liberty Belle costume under her coat.

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Klungar posted:

Ruth didn't book herself to be the champion, the plan was always for Debbie to win. Tammé ending up with the crown was Sam's last minute addition.

I said FIRST champion. She pins Jenny and then butler-guy brings out the crown, so Zoya at that point is the champ. Then Ruth and Debbie do their angle with the challenge from the crowd and Debbie wins the crown until Tammé steps in and executes Sam's audible.


Capsaicin posted:

Apter Mag GLOW Power Rankings

14/13: Ethel and Edna, The Beatdown Biddies
12: Vicky The Viking
11: Scab
10: Beirut
9: Brittanica
8: Fortune Cookie
7: Zoya The Destroya
6: Sheila The She-Wolf
5: Liberty Belle
4: Welfare Queen
3: Melrose
2: Machu Pichu
1: Junkchain

Machu Pichu #1 all day erry day. <>
I feel like a fun storyline for season 2 would be, say, Melrose and Sheila getting the opposite reaction to what was intended, where people see Melrose as a heel so she has to deal with the fact that her whole identity is built around getting attention but that's not necessarily a good thing, and Sheila getting validation (that could be fleeting when people see her still dressed up in public, not just in the ring)

Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof

Gaz-L posted:

I said FIRST champion. She pins Jenny and then butler-guy brings out the crown, so Zoya at that point is the champ. Then Ruth and Debbie do their angle with the challenge from the crowd and Debbie wins the crown until Tammé steps in and executes Sam's audible.


Machu Pichu #1 all day erry day. <>
I feel like a fun storyline for season 2 would be, say, Melrose and Sheila getting the opposite reaction to what was intended, where people see Melrose as a heel so she has to deal with the fact that her whole identity is built around getting attention but that's not necessarily a good thing, and Sheila getting validation (that could be fleeting when people see her still dressed up in public, not just in the ring)

One of my favorite parts was in episode 3 where Bash was talking about how much everybody would love Machu Pichu. I think he's the only regular on the show that really was portrayed at understanding wrestling.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Britney Young just radiates likeable and sweet. I'm actually a little sad for her, because I can't imagine her ever getting a role where she's an rear end in a top hat.

I also like how her match with Welfare Queen ended. I guarantee Kia Stevens helped choreograph that and suggested the turnbuckle power bomb, because it's literally the easiest possible way for a non-wrestler to do that move.

Klungar posted:

To be fair, those are usually very common impulses for kids in that kind of situation.

Plus Justine hero-worships Sam. He's not just her deadbeat dad, she's clearly got this whole narrative in her head that he wasn't there for her because he was an Artist, making Important Films. And then she discovers he's a coked-up, alcoholic scumbag who uses his movies to nail wannabe actress bimbos in exchange for featured parts.

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Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

Capsaicin posted:

She was wearing a Liberty Belle costume under her coat.

But during the live match she walked away before ending the match, and earlier that day she told Ruth that she was hoping to get back with her husband and her old life. They did set it up that way, but it wasn't until that moment with Debbie taking off the coat and revealing her costume that both Ruth and us know that she's now committed to her new life, not caring that her husband thinks it's silly, just like her soap opera days.

Man, this show is really good if we are debating a wrestling storyline inside a comedy show with hot women in revealing costumes and what that means for their character motivations.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Kal-L posted:

But during the live match she walked away before ending the match, and earlier that day she told Ruth that she was hoping to get back with her husband and her old life. They did set it up that way, but it wasn't until that moment with Debbie taking off the coat and revealing her costume that both Ruth and us know that she's now committed to her new life, not caring that her husband thinks it's silly, just like her soap opera days.

Man, this show is really good if we are debating a wrestling storyline inside a comedy show with hot women in revealing costumes and what that means for their character motivations.

They literally have Jenny, Dawn and Stacey confused as to what's going on and saying they were tricked, and then when Debbie and Ruth are arguing with Sam about the finish, they lay out their whole plan in such a way that it couldn't not be on purpose- as noted, Debbie has her wrestling gear on under her dress and also has her make-up and hair done a la Liberty Belle. (They also do a slightly altered version of their match from the first time if you pay attention.) I have NO idea why they thought that working the girls was needed to sell the story, but they apparently did it.

I do have to wonder if the showrunners realise that if this gets renewed, they not only have write storylines and jokes for another 10-12 episodes, but they also basically have to book a wrestling show that has stuff that can compliment those stories and still mostly make sense.

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Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!



Gaz-L posted:

They literally have Jenny, Dawn and Stacey confused as to what's going on and saying they were tricked, and then when Debbie and Ruth are arguing with Sam about the finish, they lay out their whole plan in such a way that it couldn't not be on purpose. (They also do a slightly altered version of their match from the first time if you pay attention.)

This, and also, when he's doing his announcing both before and during the match Bash is reading plot points off of the cards Ruth made for him. He's still reading off of them during their match. The only bit he doesn't have cards for is when it's Sam's addition at the end.

quote:

I do have to wonder if the showrunners realise that if this gets renewed, they not only have write storylines and jokes for another 10-12 episodes, but they also basically have to book a wrestling show that has stuff that can compliment those stories and still mostly make sense.

They have apparently seasons more of content in mind and have idea's about angles and content they want for the show within a show going forward, and intend to blend in those narratives with that of the wrestlers lives and how they influence each other. I think from that last episode Beirut is going to have an interesting second season both in ring and out.

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

Gaz-L posted:

They literally have Jenny, Dawn and Stacey confused as to what's going on and saying they were tricked, and then when Debbie and Ruth are arguing with Sam about the finish, they lay out their whole plan in such a way that it couldn't not be on purpose. (They also do a slightly altered version of their match from the first time if you pay attention.)

I'm not debating the set-up. Just that I think it's more powerful if you take into account that Debbie was considering the option to just keep the coat on and go home. And that Ruth wasn't sure if she would go along with the surprise match.

Like, Debbie's entire motivation up to that point was that she had lost her marriage and housewife life, and was doing the wrestling thing as just a way to keep busy until she had a better plan. In the last episode she has that old life almost back, and she's still angry at Ruth, so she has no motive to go on with the plan.

So that's why I like it more that way, because then Debbie going along with the plan means not only that she's starting to get along with Ruth again, but also that she's doing the wrestling thing out of her own desire, to be in the spotlight and feel powerful, no matter what anyone else thinks, and not because she has no better option.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwbNjHfoNn4

I think this should be somewhere in here too. It is the pilot episode of the real show.

If anything, the Netflix version isn't outrageous enough. It was SO over the top with the stereotypes for the characters. First match is at about 14min - Spanish Red vs. Americana.

"Spanish Red shes a hot one, and what do you expect from girl who loves bullfights? She loves hot sauce, baby, anything that is hot... hot peppers."

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

FUCK FEMINISM I BELIEVE IN HUMAN RIGHTS...FOR ALL!


Wow I didn't know that a lot of that was secondary shots, not sure what they're called, the close ups that would have required a cameraman in the ring and conspicuously don't show the audience.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


Grem posted:

Wow I didn't know that a lot of that was secondary shots, not sure what they're called, the close ups that would have required a cameraman in the ring and conspicuously don't show the audience.

Pick-ups, most likely. The sort of shots that an editor requests when they realise they're missing coverage for a specific sequence.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009



Kal-L posted:

I got a bit dissapointed that Grandma girls didn't find a new gimmick after the KKK thing.
In the real GLOW, the women they were based on switched from being elderly housewives to The Heavy Metal Sisters, Spike and Chainsaw, so it could still happen.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010



Fun Shoe

Watching episode 3 right now, this show is pretty great and Marc Maron in particular plays an amazing shithead.

E: Oh poo poo Charlie's uncle from It's Always Sunny is in this, show of the year 2017.

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Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof

lol brooke hogan is in this

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008



withak posted:

It's not that hard; 80s clothes and hair alone get you 90% of the way there.

Yeah, we underestimate just how terrible hair and fashion was in the 80's.

ChocNitty
Aug 3, 2011


Ho Lee Fuk, I can't believe they are making this. This was the closest thing to porn my 10 year old self could get.

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

Niwrad posted:

Yeah, we underestimate just how terrible hair and fashion was in the 80's.

Ok, that's it! *rips shirt Hulk Hogan style* You and withak better be ready, because next Saturday the ring will be a school, and I'll be teaching you both to stop disrespecting the 80's! And if you don't like it, then move back to the USSR, where they don't have hairspray and FREEDOM!

ChocNitty posted:

Ho Lee Fuk, I can't believe they are making this. This was the closest thing to porn my 10 year old self could get.

poo poo, they got me with the hot girls in 80's leotards, and made me stay with the great acting and production. So, kind of like the real thing.

Norwegian Rudo
May 8, 2013


Gaz-L posted:

There have also been a couple of spiritual successors, at least one of which I believe was also run by the guy who's the inspiration for Bash. WOW and Wrestlicious being probably the most notable ones. (I may remember WOW more than most because it got a decent amount of play in the Apter mags)

Weirdly Bash seems a lot more like the Wrestlicious guy than David McClane. McClane had worked in wrestling before (and still does today. WOW recently signed a deal with MGM to "create content"), while the Wrestlicious owner was a young guy who won the lottery and decided to spend it on a women's wrestling promotion.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Was genuinely surprised to hear 'stinkyhole punch' on an american TV show.

Show owns super hard. Alison Brie looks like she wasn't wearing makeup at all for the show...and she's still super pretty.

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AFC NORTH PITY FUCK


She wasn't wearing makeup, for the most part.

precision
May 7, 2006

Double great.


In Soviet Union, we have no makeup - because we are not faces! We are the heel of the boot on your stupid Ameryican neck!

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.



Gaz-L posted:

Britney Young just radiates likeable and sweet. I'm actually a little sad for her, because I can't imagine her ever getting a role where she's an rear end in a top hat.

She's this show's Crazy Eyes, for sure. I mean, purely in the sense that she'd be a write-off caricature in almost any other story, but here she's imbued with real pathos and humanity. Her character is gay, right? Based on the leg-shaving scene. Her friendship with Bash is probably about that...I don't know that he's explicitly gay, but it's a definite subtext and maybe they see similar tensions in each other.

It's pretty clear how much this show inherited from Orange is the New Black. Ruth and Debbie are definitely the white, middle-class Piper and Alex analogs that soft-sell you into the setting, before it branches out into the experiences of Cherry or Carmen or Sheila, etc. Only I'm interested in Ruth and Debbie. Show is great.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012



Just binged this (and the documentary) and definitely loving it too, really want to see more (especially after the documentary, holy gently caress).

The only thing that didn't hit very well was Sheila's wolf-angst, but her later scenes made up for it.

precision
May 7, 2006

Double great.


Lord Cyrahzax posted:

Sheila's wolf-angst

That's really reductive

DickStatkus
Oct 25, 2006



I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because to me this is a bad show that completely squanders the potential of its premise by taking a campy fun and nostalgic thing like GLOW and transfers it into a dank melodramatic world where every character is literally one-note. Not to mention in the writers attempts to shine light on racial stereotyping they created at least two characters who are more tone deafly racist than any real character that was ever on the actual show. Combine that with character arcs to nowhere, uninspired cinematography and direction, flat wrestling action (when it actually happens, for a show about wrestling....) and it feels like every episode is a Netflix series filler episode.


idk... I watched the actual pilot of the 80's show after binging the season and it has more entertainment and personality in the first ten minutes than this had over the entire season. I honestly am baffled because I have only heard and read good things about this show.

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Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof

Carmen's dad starting a Machu chant.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

I joined the new sensation, the #RXT REVOLUTION~!



he knows...


Binged through 9 episodes yesterday, watched 10 when I got home from work today, now watching the documentary.

Loved the show, GLOW is a really interesting bit of wrestling history that I'm starting to feel embarrassed I'm not really familiar with.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009


One neat little touch I only noticed going back: Arthie shows off a somersault cannonball into the pool as a 'move' she's working on once they're at the motel.

Then in episode 10? Her big spot is a somersault senton!

double negative
Jul 7, 2003



This show was really drat good. Such a great cast, all the way down to Cherry's husband. The scene where he's yelling at Zoya as the ref but also praising Ruth and Betty's match and warning Ruth that he has no clue what comes next had me rolling.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

AFC NORTH PITY FUCK


DickStatkus posted:

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because to me this is a bad show that completely squanders the potential of its premise by taking a campy fun and nostalgic thing like GLOW and transfers it into a dank melodramatic world where every character is literally one-note. Not to mention in the writers attempts to shine light on racial stereotyping they created at least two characters who are more tone deafly racist than any real character that was ever on the actual show. Combine that with character arcs to nowhere, uninspired cinematography and direction, flat wrestling action (when it actually happens, for a show about wrestling....) and it feels like every episode is a Netflix series filler episode.

Don't worry. Once the shine wears off I'm sure a lot more people will agree with you.

The show touches on a lot of nostalgic notes from the 80's that people identify with. The opening credits were well done, and incorporating the right era music for each moments was great.

It was shot well, and I think a lot of the actors did a good job with what they had.

Other than that, it was mostly boring and some of the characters didn't seem real.

I don't know how much the show deviates from the real thing, and I don't really care. Hell, I was always under the impression that the G in GLOW stood for Glamorous, not Gorgeous. But, based on this: Bash gushing about costumes and that wolf lady poo poo kills any suspension of disbelief.

Every time the show built up enough goodwill with some scenes about other characters and their lives, it gets squandered by wasting time with another 10 minute scene of Ruth and her manic over eagerness.

Martha Stewart Undying
Oct 22, 2012





This is the exact moment I fell in love with this show.

Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof

Martha Stewart Undying posted:



This is the exact moment I fell in love with this show.

that's a man who has the high score in burgertime

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox


Just finished the show. Liked it overall, but the pregnancy thing was real bad and unnecessary.

Does nobody engaging in extra-marital affairs ever use a drat condom?

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


Sockser posted:

Binged through 9 episodes yesterday, watched 10 when I got home from work today, now watching the documentary.

There's a documentary? Is it on Netflix? Don't think I saw it in the list when I finished binging this yesterday.

vaginadeathgrip
Jun 18, 2003

all them bitches can't handle my sassy ass mouth

double negative posted:

This show was really drat good. Such a great cast, all the way down to Cherry's husband. The scene where he's yelling at Zoya as the ref but also praising Ruth and Betty's match and warning Ruth that he has no clue what comes next had me rolling.

He's my fave

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005
Oh, Jesus fuck. It's like the Nazis opened The Ark Of The Covenant, and I looked.


I'm torn between wether Keith or Carmen is my favorite.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012



Artelier posted:

There's a documentary? Is it on Netflix? Don't think I saw it in the list when I finished binging this yesterday.

There is, just search Glow, it's worth it

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

Coal Jobs for the Coal God


Marc Maron hot shots more angles than Vince Russo

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.


Watching the original pilot(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwbNjHfoNn4), it's funny how true they got the corny-ness of the show. Right down to making the raps somehow just as mindbogglingly bad. Also funny to see the lady that would go on to play Ivory in the WWE. Bash was actually a better announcer, despite trying to be bad he just couldn't act this terribly.

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Qmass
Jun 3, 2003



Martha Stewart Undying posted:



This is the exact moment I fell in love with this show.
Was that house in a bruce willis movie ? That circle window thing is giving me deja vu.

edit: gently caress me, the dumb poo poo I have wasting space in my brain...

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