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Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009



Beelzebub in DDS was a badass fight. There's another later on that I thought was amazing but I won't spoil it

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Evil Eagle posted:

Beelzebub in DDS was a badass fight. There's another later on that I thought was amazing but I won't spoil it

If it's the one I am thinking of it's amazing

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



I'm planning on checking out all the optional bosses except for Demi Fiend because A) he's insane and B) he's NG+ only and I'll just be moving onto DDS2. Also the Karma Temple looks so sick. I love SMT's huge towers

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In Training posted:

I'm planning on checking out all the optional bosses except for Demi Fiend because A) he's insane and B) he's NG+ only and I'll just be moving onto DDS2. Also the Karma Temple looks so sick. I love SMT's huge towers

Beating demifiend was one of the highlights of the mid 2000s for me

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009



he's got nothing on the DDS2 secret boss on hard mode imo.

play DDS2 on hard mode IT

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008



Evil Eagle posted:

he's got nothing on the DDS2 secret boss on hard mode imo.

play DDS2 on hard mode IT

Bosses with rotating strengths/weaknesses are garbage gimmicks

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009



You heard it here first: Strange Journey's final boss is garbage

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008



What a loving dork you are lol

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Daikatana Ritsu posted:

Bosses with rotating strengths/weaknesses are garbage gimmicks

I kinda like those. When they say "oh they shifted form!" and then they glow a different color. The final boss of P3 was pretty sick, in that vein.

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009



For sure. It's a fine gimmick for a fight as long as it isn't overused.

Mr. Sophistication
May 16, 2014

I know this wasn't your original avatar but I just love this game. Cheers, rediscover.


There's a lot of really cool FF bosses that do that. Like the Crystals from FFV

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Metroid Prime Phase 1 is my favorite of those, because it fakes you out constantly. Not a JRPG tho

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008



A boss should face you without gimmicks and full power 100% strength instead of relying on rock paper scissors.

trying to jack off
Dec 31, 2007



i think bosses should be invincible until you use a gimmick to defeat them, such as standing on 3 switches or using telefrags

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012



i remember that the elemental switching boss in x-2 was terrible, in that it switched rapidly, and could switch from weakness to absorb and actually sped up switching elements partway into battle.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Bosses without gimmicks don't really exist in JRPGs

Evil Eagle
Nov 5, 2009



Plebian Parasite posted:

i remember that the elemental switching boss in x-2 was terrible, in that it switched rapidly, and could switch from weakness to absorb and actually sped up switching elements partway into battle.

I definitely think that this kind of gimmick does not work with ATB. But it's fine in turn based games.

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008



In Training posted:

Bosses without gimmicks don't really exist in JRPGs

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So Lucifer in SMT3 isn't a gimmick? Because really other than using pierce he is next to impossible

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007



That RPG feel when a boss wipes you so quick you think it must have been a story battle you're supposed to lose but nope there's the game over screen

Baxate
Feb 1, 2011

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P-Mack posted:

That RPG feel when a boss wipes you so quick you think it must have been a story battle you're supposed to lose but nope there's the game over screen

This was me with Dhoulmagus in DQ8

I set the game down for a month after that

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Reached a door that has a Point of No Return prompt so it's time to start hunting superbosses. The Snake headed boss right before this was cool and I obliterated it by accident because my MC had High Counter on and was doing 2000+ damage a turn off counterhits

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Killed an Omoikane finally after 30+ hours it's like a liquid metal slime that taunts you randomly the entire game

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008



In Training posted:

Killed an Omoikane finally after 30+ hours it's like a liquid metal slime that taunts you randomly the entire game

lmao I never beat one of those things in my 200+ hours playing both games

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Daikatana Ritsu posted:

lmao I never beat one of those things in my 200+ hours playing both games

I got insanely lucky and it didn't run after the first turn for some reason. Argilla gained 3 levels from one battle lol

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



I beat Beezlebub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YwtKxyM78g

cool fight. hunting the 4 beasts now, i like that some of the ultimate mantra are just ludicrously OP and it alters the boss AI to gently caress with you for trying to use them to cheese the big battles. but you can use them to farm or whatever.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Oh also a heads up for any PS2 owners, a goon is offloading his collection for cheap $$ https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3830645 if you say, don't own SSX3 already for some reason, nows a good time to pick it up

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Played some Eternal Ring today...seems neat. I like the music. I probably wont ever finish it, because if I wanted to play a game like this I would probably get into one of the later king's fields or play dark souls again

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



Ace Combat 5 completed, I love these games...going to get started on AC0 asap. I'm now insanely excited for ace combat 7, it looks absolutely gorgeous. and digital devil saga 2 is in the mail, cant wait to finish the fight

sick rear end music + feels here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68iE6Jty-00#t=318s

i hope though that at some point they just give the main character a model because all the cutscenes having to block them out of frame gets weird after a while

In Training fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Aug 22, 2017

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


In Training posted:

Ace Combat 5 completed, I love these games...going to get started on AC0 asap. I'm now insanely excited for ace combat 7, it looks absolutely gorgeous. and digital devil saga 2 is in the mail, cant wait to finish the fight

sick rear end music + feels here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68iE6Jty-00#t=318s

i hope though that at some point they just give the main character a model because all the cutscenes having to block them out of frame gets weird after a while

The final mission in 5 is a god tier video game moment. Blaze? Blaze? Commander? <= Yes No=>

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


I also love how the bad guys are just so exasperated with fighting you, like they know they're gonna lose so they deorbit a satellite just to say gently caress you after already losing

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



frank.club posted:

I also love how the bad guys are just so exasperated with fighting you, like they know they're gonna lose so they deorbit a satellite just to say gently caress you after already losing

Lol

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



For anybody who hasn't played AC5 the big twist in the plot is that the war between Osea and Yuktobonia was being perpetrated by a Belkan sleeper cell terrorist organization to get revenge for their country being eliminated by nuclear weapons 15 years ago. But you are such a loving amazing untouchable godlike pilot that you were single handedly winning the war for Osea so they had to take you out or else the countries wouldn't destroy each other through a decade long war, which winds up revealing their hand in the conflict

In Training
Jun 28, 2008



The back of the AC0 box makes it sound like you're going to play through the belkan war 15 years ago which is epic. I'll have to rewatch the AC7 trailers now to see what part of the Lore is going to be tackled in the new installment

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007



poo poo, this whole time I thought it said "Balkan" and was a dark gritty reboot set in the 90s.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012


P-Mack posted:

poo poo, this whole time I thought it said "Balkan" and was a dark gritty reboot set in the 90s.

The ace combat team loves the valkyria chronicles thing where the names are really familiar even though all the details are totally different

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


In Training posted:

The back of the AC0 box makes it sound like you're going to play through the belkan war 15 years ago which is epic. I'll have to rewatch the AC7 trailers now to see what part of the Lore is going to be tackled in the new installment

I think the rumor is that it's a sequel directly to 5. That the woman who Base jumps from the space elevator is the lady from 5

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


Btw if you ever replay 5 selecting a different answer for Choppers question about if you liked the song or not changes the next mission

frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


THIS IS REQUIRED IMPZONE WATCHING THE WHOLE THING https://youtu.be/iWRdMX1VaZA

Ace Combat is a sick series and 5 is imo one of the most overlooked games on the ps2. It's a complete masterpiece and holds up even today. The nuggets are falling out of the sky!

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frank.club
Jan 15, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


In Training posted:

The back of the AC0 box makes it sound like you're going to play through the belkan war 15 years ago which is epic. I'll have to rewatch the AC7 trailers now to see what part of the Lore is going to be tackled in the new installment

SOLO WING PIXIE ace combat is so epic

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