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Inescapable Duck posted:Is this another thing we can blame South Park for? 'The truth is in the middle' and all that. If anything the biggest crime of centrism is making people think its actually impossible for two groups of people to both be wrong
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This is the thread I've always wanted What the hell is a "radical centrist" anyway At this point it probably is something like me, who believes inequity the most important political issue of the day but doesn't believe literally communism is the answer Otherwise it's the "fever swamp of the center" where you dismiss both the democrats and republicans and say "the answer is in the middle." Or you pretend there are rational policy driven pols on the GOP side, accept Paul Ryan, the ash ketchum of bad hard right economic ideas, and then pretend his Con plans to enrich the 0.1% are somehow not going to be disastrous to everyone else Karl Barks posted:i have literally no beliefs "Stay the course, everything is fine" Nebakenezzer has issued a correction as of 18:11 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:This is the thread I've always wanted Have you ever heard this... proverb, I guess, "Idiots think that the Civil War was about slavery. The educated learned that the Civil War was about states rights. People who actually study the Civil War know that it was about slavery." You can retool it for radical centrists as, "Idiots base follow an ideology that fits their material reality. The educated reject all forms of ideology and seek to find the best path forward. People who actually understand politics follow an ideology that fits a collective's material reality."
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MizPiz posted:Have you ever heard this... proverb, I guess, "Idiots think that the Civil War was about slavery. The educated learned that the Civil War was about states rights. People who actually study the Civil War know that it was about slavery." this is just your dad's version of the galaxy brain meme
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#TheResistance https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/885541188245364736
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Nebakenezzer posted:This is the thread I've always wanted if u think inequity is the most important issue of the day then you're not centrist centrists think everything's fine except for a few needed tweaks (specifically, labor laws have got to go,also taxes on the rich. we need more taxes on the poor tho). that's why macron's gutting taxes in france and practicing starve the beast! centrists also don't care about social inequity, like gay marriage. that's why centrist superhero angela merkel voted against same sex marriage in germany
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I'm old enough to remember begala's 'hard working white folks' fuckup back in early primary season '08
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Condiv posted:if u think inequity is the most important issue of the day then you're not centrist he yes, Paul Ryan, famous centrist
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the bitcoin of weed posted:this is just your dad's version of the galaxy brain meme Well I guess you losers need to keep up cause clearly I'm ahead of the meme game by decades. 
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The question you gotta ask yourself is this: has it ever been time for some game theory?
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projecthalaxy posted:The question you gotta ask yourself is this: has it ever been time for some game theory? there has never not been time for game theory
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You gotta snort some crushed-up Addy and have a couple craft beers and you won't even have to ask that question anymore.
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When people talk about / advocate centrism they are really advocating for the status quo and policies that benefit that status quo. At the moment, this is neoliberal capitalism.
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Feldegast42 posted:When people talk about / advocate centrism they are really advocating for the status quo and policies that benefit that status quo. At the moment, this is neoliberal capitalism. 
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Condiv posted:if u think inequity is the most important issue of the day then you're not centrist Good So is centrism actually believed by anybody at all not explicitly in the media/political apparatus It sounds like "has political views" and "centrism" actually don't overlap at all
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Actually the idea of 'alt-center' is still amusing because it'd be the status quo but actively sexist and racist to get in on that growth market
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am i a radical centrist if I think that "equity" is paternalism with a mother's face and that pursuing policies oriented towards an abstract concept of equality, without consideration for the idiosyncratic needs of special interest groups, is and has always been the correct course
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Coolness Averted posted:centrists call themselves moderates all the time still it helps them pretend they're the reasonable adults in the room rather than just a step away from fascism and telling people who give a gently caress about real human suffering 'to be realistic'
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Fallen Hamprince posted:he yes, Paul Ryan, famous centrist macron too, but if you wanna say macron's as bad as paul ryan i won't stop you
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the trump tutelage posted:am i a radical centrist if I think that "equity" is paternalism with a mother's face and that pursuing policies oriented towards an abstract concept of equality, without consideration for the idiosyncratic needs of special interest groups, is and has always been the correct course I suppose this depends on whether you define special interest groups as "bankers and pharma executives", as the left does, or "racial, gender, and sexual minorities", as the right does
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Nebakenezzer posted:Actually the idea of 'alt-center' is still amusing because it'd be the status quo but actively sexist and racist to get in on that growth market https://twitter.com/arionkeys/status/885321679911694336
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the alt left wants to check white privilege the alt right celebrates anti-blackness the alt center criticizes "white privilege" as a wilful misunderstanding of the difference between privileges and rights
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the bitcoin of weed posted:I suppose this depends on whether you define special interest groups as "bankers and pharma executives", as the left does, or "racial, gender, and sexual minorities", as the right does both, naturally
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was joan walsh the centrist who sourced animenazinews.com?
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Condiv posted:was joan walsh the centrist who sourced animenazinews.com? That was Joy Reid but they've been on some sort of race to out bad-Dem eachother so I can understand the confusion.
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the trump tutelage posted:the alt left wants to check white privilege this editorial is going around the Rad-Center today and it's basically this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/...eft-region&_r=0
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what a wonderful centrist! https://twitter.com/SupportFLOC/status/885581709529534464
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Troy Queef posted:this editorial is going around the Rad-Center today and it's basically this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/...eft-region&_r=0 I'm not sure this person gets that the dirtbag left is SJWs who have an irony game instead of a compulsive need to play into the alt-right's narrative. Then again I get the impression that centrists love having the alt-right around as foils to their self-image. Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 01:10 on Jul 14, 2017 |
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Troy Queef posted:this editorial is going around the Rad-Center today and it's basically this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/...eft-region&_r=0 Why does this section of the 'left' seem to call themselves feminists while demanding women become damsels in distress who need men to stand up for them. Curse you Andrea Dworkins and your pushing the concept of victimhood as a virtue.
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Byolante posted:Why does this section of the 'left' seem to call themselves feminists while demanding women become damsels in distress who need men to stand up for them. Curse you Andrea Dworkins and your pushing the concept of victimhood as a virtue. quote:I always think: Why is this even our responsibility to fix? my actually problem with her argument is that she's lecturing the people who actually do what she's asking dudes to do except effectively instead but still uh 
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oh hey, remember macron's racist speech that r/neoliberal decided wasn't racist? turns out libertarians aren't the best judge of what is or isn't racist, much to hamprince's chagrin: quote:The condemnation online was swift and relentless. The US political scientist Laura Seay summarised the problem many had with Macron’s words in a series of tweets: “It is RICH for a French president to criticise Africa this way,” she said. “France’s colonial theory was called the ‘mission civilisatrice’, which purported to bring all the benefits of Frenchness to the continent. Part of the ‘mission’ was the institutionalisation of Catholicism as the official religion of French colonial territories in Africa.” of course, this was all fairly obvious to anyone who wasn't a smoothbrained centrist
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Colonialism is bad? If anything modern centrists prove that the left right dichotomy is outdated as poo poo. I have more in common with paleocons and trad cats than neocons and neolibs
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Nebakenezzer posted:but doesn't believe literally communism is the answer nice to know we can safely discount your opinion about anything
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JEB! is the answer! Cuck Yeah!
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Condiv posted:oh hey, remember macron's racist speech that r/neoliberal decided wasn't racist? So basically French Africa runs on company scrip. Cool.
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R. Guyovich posted:along with greece they're the western country (east germany excepted) who came closest to a communist government after wwii so it's not surprising Italy came really close.
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MaxxBot posted:JEB! is the answer!
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Nebakenezzer posted:At this point it probably is something like me, who believes inequity the most important political issue of the day but doesn't believe literally communism is the answer *greasy twitter boy voice* "hehehe, one thousand years gulag my good sir. seriously tho we'll kill u when we take over"
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