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Alastor_the_Stylish
Jul 25, 2006

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

That's Mildred Burke's move, not Mae Young's!

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DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Aphrodite posted:

Japanese music industry has the same "rules" for women too, doesn't it?

The Japanese Idol scene is even more strict. Also the no boyfriends thing doesn't really apply to joshi. Or at least specific people don't give a poo poo about that. I know Io Shirai dated some guy for some time before breaking up with him due to a pretty significant scandal involving them and another wrestling promotion.

Also I would say in the joshi scene today, Shirai is probably the most prideful, while people like Kairi or Mayu are more humble.

Speaking of Kairi, she sent out this tweet a little bit ago:

https://twitter.com/KairiSaneWWE/status/891127804754104321

Kairi is essentially going to be Japanese Bayley, except probably connects better with the crowd.

DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jul 29, 2017

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Probably a better talker too.

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams

Aphrodite posted:

Japanese music industry has the same "rules" for women too, doesn't it?

Maybe worse. Mineko Minegishi of AKB48 was pressured to shave her head in contrition and post a sobbing apology video for simply being seen with a boy while her AKB48 contract disallowed such contact. Later on she was fatshamed even though she wasn't that fat and made to do advertisements for the RIZAP boot camp weight loss company. I don't imagine joshi is too far off from that because the way the Japanese entertainment industry is so mafia-like and it probably extends though to joshipuro as well. Then again, Aja Kong, Manami Toyota, and Mayumi Ozaki are still doing matches but they're nowhere near anyone's top of the card.

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Aphrodite posted:

Probably a better talker too.

I know you are joking, but I wouldn't go that far. Kairi's (spoken) English isn't the strongest right now.

I would put her b/w Asuka and Nakamura in terms of fluency. I imagine by the time she actually debuts on NXT, she'll have a decent grasp of the language, but until then. I don't remember if there is a goon in here who teaches English in Japan (I think it was Auritech?), but it's a really hard language to learn either way. I couldn't tell you how Japan does it, outside of there being certification for it (EIKEN).

Auritech
May 27, 2004

Blessed be the tailors
The masks are cut to fit

Blessed be the woodworkers
The crosses and the gallows

Blessed be the forgers of iron
And the spikes and the barbwire

Blessed be the stone cutters
It took a quarry to bury the dreams
Nah, I just live in Japan, my Japanese is actually pretty lousy. :D

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

DarkstarIV posted:

I know you are joking, but I wouldn't go that far. Kairi's (spoken) English isn't the strongest right now.

I would put her b/w Asuka and Nakamura in terms of fluency. I imagine by the time she actually debuts on NXT, she'll have a decent grasp of the language, but until then. I don't remember if there is a goon in here who teaches English in Japan (I think it was Auritech?), but it's a really hard language to learn either way. I couldn't tell you how Japan does it, outside of there being certification for it (EIKEN).

In terms of being able to cut promos, it kind of goes Tozawa>Nakamura>Asuka>Itami, right now, ya? (Itami's English seems better but his delivery is worse than Asuka's)


RealFoxy posted:

I've tried looking for it but since she named her softcore bikini DVD the same thing as a joke, it's really hard to find the actual paper she wrote but I found some posts that summarized it on Reddit.
It'd be pretty funny if the video was just her posing and such while reading the manifesto.

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Yup. And for reference, here is an older promo from Kairi (in English):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRTWjG53P8

She tends to stop and think carefully about what words she wants to use (even though she still tends to be the wrong words). She's apparently gotten somewhat better recently though. It helps that she tweeted (before moving to Orlando) about taking the EIKEN test and trying to brush up on her English.

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


DarkstarIV posted:

(even though she still tends to be the wrong words)

As we can see, that's not necessarily a second-language thing. :D

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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tzirean posted:

As we can see, that's not necessarily a second-language thing. :D

Whoops. To be fair, I'm tired and had to deal with my family during my birthday, when I just wanted to have a quiet afternoon. :shobon:

Unrelated: Asuka has passed the The New Day in terms of how long she's held the title. I'm really impressed WWE has kept the title on her for so long, despite being Japanese.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
Some of the themes from the MYC have been popping up online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWfrxgQ3Xjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hYthFqlc3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDiq73NE98

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJf3PS7gEoI

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Asuka screaming NOBODY CAN BEAT ME IT'S MINE in broken English while clutching her belt like the Precious is one of the best promos in the entire company.

Benne fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jul 30, 2017

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

achillesforever6 posted:

Some of the themes from the MYC have been popping up online


candice's is the only one without the mae young logo (lol) in it, it says nxt instad of myc, and it fuckin sucks

savoy's is good

edit that explains that:

quote:

Published on Jul 27, 2017
This is Candice LeRae's official NXT theme as used in the number one contender battle royal! Hope you enjoy!!

NOTE: This was not her MYC Theme.

checksin
Nov 23, 2006

I joined the new sensation, the #RXT REVOLUTION~!

:chillout:

he knows...
toni storm's music makes me want to play fire pro so it is a great theme

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Benne posted:

Asuka screaming NOBODY CAN BEAT ME IT'S MINE in broken English while clutching her belt like the Precious is one of the best promos in the entire company.

That night she hosed up the Number One Contender's match and was just angrily snapping in Japanese at William Regal as he was chasing her down the corridor was so great, and she didn't need any English to get her point across. Same deal with that match she had against Ember Moon where she started to feel threatened so blatantly cheated, then grabbed her belt all happy and mocked Ember for losing.

Even stuff like that time they filmed her stepping out of her car and happily greeting the fans, then going blank-faces and rolling her eyes the moment she was out of their eyeline. Asuka is the best :allears:

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIy7cZTazPQ

The part where she's running and just says "no!" like a child being told to go to bed. :allears:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Ahahaha yessss! Asuka rules

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5U4jjWYHhA

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/891314466880729089


https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/890720149782884352
this starts out kinda rough but scarlett's nose gets smashed and then they really start beating the crap out of each other

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/891521571549962240

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Wow, this is way sooner than I thought it would be. Wonder if the 5* GP will be her farewell?

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Sorry for the double post, but Io Shirai posted a new blog entry that explained the situation a bit more. She found a doctor in Japan who took really good care of her neck, and combined with rehab, feels like she is ready to get back into the ring, which is why she's coming back for the 5* GP. I'm interested to see what Dave says about it, combined with the reaction from WWE. His Japanese sources are shaky, but I'm pretty sure his sources with regards to WWE contracts are pretty solid.

I imagine afterwards, she'll probably challenge Mayu for the title again, then leave for the WWE. Then again, there are some people that are speculating that WWE pulled their contract offer, which is why she's returning this soon.

DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 30, 2017

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


why https://twitter.com/anilizer_34/status/891641355725877249 why

why

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

DarkstarIV posted:

Sorry for the double post, but Io Shirai posted a new blog entry that explained the situation a bit more. She found a doctor in Japan who took really good care of her neck, and combined with rehab, feels like she is ready to get back into the ring, which is why she's coming back for the 5* GP. I'm interested to see what Dave says about it, combined with the reaction from WWE. His Japanese sources are shaky, but I'm pretty sure his sources with regards to WWE contracts are pretty solid.

I imagine afterwards, she'll probably challenge Mayu for the title again, then leave for the WWE. Then again, there are some people that are speculating that WWE pulled their contract offer, which is why she's returning this soon.

It depends on what the injury was, I assume. If it was, like, muscular or something, then in theory rehab and the right treatment might have helped enough to make her good to go. If it was to do with the spine, though, that's unlikely to have been fixed.

Wasn't there some buzz that Styles had a neck issue before he came to WWE, though, and he's been fine?

Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

You look like a star!

Gaz-L posted:

It depends on what the injury was, I assume. If it was, like, muscular or something, then in theory rehab and the right treatment might have helped enough to make her good to go. If it was to do with the spine, though, that's unlikely to have been fixed.

Wasn't there some buzz that Styles had a neck issue before he came to WWE, though, and he's been fine?

I only heard about how hosed his back was, which I think maybe caused him to miss Smackdown once ot twice but has otherwise been no issue.

I hope that if Io wanted to go to WWE she still has the shot.

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Accident Underwater posted:

I only heard about how hosed his back was, which I think maybe caused him to miss Smackdown once ot twice but has otherwise been no issue.

I hope that if Io wanted to go to WWE she still has the shot.

WWE really wanted to sign her, so I doubt they would pull the contract. I think the question is, what is her contract status with WWE as of right now? Dave reported awhile back that she signed, but he's been wrong about Japanese stuff in the past. On the other hand, his WWE sources tend to be pretty solid when it comes to contract stuff.

Stardom's English PR team has been acting really cagey/mysterious when asked if she's staying with STARDOM, so who knows. I believe she's still signed, because (spoilers for the recent show [and I guess the MYC sorta] in the following tag):

Viper/Piper has joined Queen's Quest, and there are an absurd number of people in it now, considering Stardom's roster size [Io, Viper, HZK, AZM, Momo Watanabe].

DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 31, 2017

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

They did the same with Hojo until the last second.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Oh for gently caress's sake... it'd be one thing if it was just dumb, but like, Katsuyori Shibata LITERALLY ALMOST DIED LADIES!

Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof
pretty sure i've done a full clear of dakota kai's theme on hard on popnmusic

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
The guy who runs the STARDOM English stuff is an infamous troll and feeds things to Meltzer so I'd take any of that with the tiniest grain of salt. Io could still be WWE bound but they're trying to do damage control

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

RealFoxy posted:

The guy who runs the STARDOM English stuff is an infamous troll and feeds things to Meltzer so I'd take any of that with the tiniest grain of salt. Io could still be WWE bound but they're trying to do damage control

Troll instead of someone who is just putting out company propaganda?

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
The MYC

https://twitter.com/ACadabbi/status/891701499914584065

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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rovert posted:

Troll instead of someone who is just putting out company propaganda?

I can believe the fact that Stardom's official english sources are pretty sketchy, considering the guy running the accounts had a meltdown over Sane/Hojo leaving. Why Stardom keeps him employed I dont know.

Also as for the reddit stuff you ended up tweeting out Rovert, they did the same thing with Kairi right before she announced she was leaving. I wouldn't be shocked if Rossy or STARDOM as a whole have no idea or cares about their English fanbase outside of the bare minimum support required, which is why this guy is still running their English stuff.

DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Jul 31, 2017

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Kairi Sane suffered a concussion at the MYC tapings, according to Pro Wrestling Sheet/Ryan Satin. However, she should be cleared to compete again by mid August.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/892569850723393536
https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/892571004677103617
https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/892572274355838976

it's good!

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

go su

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I hope they save Su/Havok for the finals because those Orpheum brawls were a fuckin doozy

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Someday I'm going to see Candice win a belt

DM Punk
Aug 24, 2004
I am amazed Ivelisse got a booking outside of SHINE/LU.

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DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

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Shirai will not be going to WWE according to Meltzer. Concern over her neck injury, along with the fact that WWE is supposedly satisfied with Kairi and Asuka is enough for them. Meaning Shirai will be working the 5* GP with a broken neck.

Stardom's English PR may insist otherwise about the neck but I wouldn't put stock in their statement.

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