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PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.






Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP91_mCYThQ

Final Fantasy Brave Exvius is a mobile F2P RPG from Square-Enix and the makers of Brave Frontier. Released Globally in the summer of 2016, and in Japan 8 months before that. It shares some minor similarities with Final Fantasy Record Keeper but it's mostly Brave Frontier with a huge coating of Final Fantasy. Using given story characters and heroes from classic FF games you form a 5-man squad to run through dungeons, fight super bosses, and even other player teams in an Arena. Your story is standard Final Fantasy fare with an evil force destroying crystals, but the music is really good. Some of the art, specifically the animated backgrounds are really quite beautiful if you stop to pay attention to them. Some of the sprites are better than others, and some have some very fun and enjoyable animations. Combat should feel right at home to fans of the FF series, particularly of the Nintendo era.

This thread is focused on the Global version of the game but there are some goons that play on the JP version as well.

Gameplay



Every 5 minutes you get 1 NRG, which is the stamina that you’ll spend to play most of the content. This is pretty standard with most mobile games and yes you can spend premium currency to refresh your NRG to your max, and also buy refreshes from bundles which is helpful for new players as you can extend over your max. Similarly, you have a rank which determines your maximum NRG level, as you complete content you’ll gain EXP that will increase your rank. Like many other games of its type, Exvius has daily login rewards, daily quests that reward a bit of Lapis (premium currency), and a constantly revolving door of events.

There are three areas where you’ll be spending your time playing the game:

1) Story dungeons, towns and explorations. Dungeons consists of sequential battles with no break in between. Explorations are open areas where you wander around, find hidden treasure, and fight enemies in random battles. In both cases at the end of an exploration, or at the end of a dungeon there will be a battle with a boss during which you’ll need to employ more skills and tactics using your party’s abilities to win. As you get further into the story mode, bosses can become very challenging however. Towns do not consume NRG to visit and are essentially Explorations without battles. NPCs in both explorations and towns can offer quests which may have you retreading an exploration to fight a hidden enemy, delivering an item to someone, or killing a certain number of a specific enemy; some quests have very nice rewards and are worth doing.

2) The Vortex: This is an area with limited time dungeons(including Raids), limited time explorations and the ‘Chambers’. Just about every week there is something new, or something old brought back, in the Vortex. These can be event dungeons based on a specific FF game, a unique series of battles that tells a side story in the Exvius world, or even a Raid where players kill a boss repeatedly earning more and more raid currency as the kill count rises. Also in the Vortex are the ‘Chambers’. There are two types of Chambers: The Chamber of the Fallen(aka Trials) where you’ll fight very difficult bosses for very good gear and rewards, and the Chambers of Desires which you can open 1 during a 24 hour period and will reward with you a variety of things such as awakening mats to raise the star level of your characters, ability awakening mats which allow you to increase certain abilities of characters(aka Enhancement), or just generally helpful things like Gil(the non-premium currency) or EXP.

3) The Arena is an area that does not use NRG but is instead participated in using orbs. These orbs regenerate at 1/hour and max at 5 no matter your rank. The arena has two parts, the primary arena is where you’ll match your team up against other player’s teams. The other team is automated and it’s entirely random what they do, but you’ll get to choose your attacks. The other section of the arena is the Coliseum where you’ll fight your way through harder and harder monsters getting rewards at each plateau.



What is combat like?
Combat is typical turn based FF style combat. When it’s your turn, choose an action for each character, resolve the actions in whatever order you like, and then watch and see what the enemy does: repeat until one side is dead. There are obviously some more nuances to combat than this, but If you actually like combat in the FF games when it’s more about using a variety of different party configurations and skills to win, then this game is for you.



This sounds awesome, what’s the catch?

Like most mobile games everything is free to a point. There is only a single character locked behind a paywall so that’s not too bad, but almost every other character is attained completely randomly. Each character has a base rarity ranging between 3★-5★ for premium characters and 1★-3★ for “friend point units”(these are all garbage outside their TMs). When you pull a character from the premium pool you do so with the following odds: 80% of your draws will be a 3★ character, 19% will be a 4★ character, and only 1% of them will be a 5★ character. I’ll bet you can guess which ones are the best. This means that if your favorite character is one of the rare (5★ base) characters, there’s a pretty darn good chance that you’ll never get that character as there is no way to purchase a specific character.

Furthermore getting ‘rolls’ on the gacha is pretty expensive all things considered. $100 USD translates into 18,000 Lapis. For 5000 Lapis you can get 11 rolls one of which will be guaranteed a 4★ or better character, you can spend 250 Lapis once per day for a single roll, or you can spend 500 Lapis for a single roll (never do this). However, the game does have a few positives in this regard, first being that there are banners which increase the drop rate for specific characters by a fairly significant degree and the game also gives out a fair amount of summoning tickets which can be saved and used for a free roll at any time.

The other big negative of the game is that there is a terrible reward system for using a unit frequently called Trust Mastery(TM). Each unit has a Trust value that has a 10% chance of increasing by .1% every battle. When a unit gets to 100% you get their Trust Master Reward(TMR) which is typically some of the best gear in the game. This system is incredibly slow through the normal course of play (My lightning which as of this writing I’ve been using very frequently for 8 months is around 35%) and initially forced players to do what’s called “Macroing”. Macroing is using an emulator to have the game autoplay itself on your PC, typically done by players at night while they sleep. Doing this, players are able to send their characters into battle more frequently and thus level their trust faster.

The designers eventually created Trust Moogles which are units that can be merged into other units to increase their trust by 1%/5%/10%, but are typically high end mission rewards in tough battles, or moderately priced event currency purchases. Essentially if you aren’t TM Macroing, you’re characters are never going to come close to reaching their potentials and you’ll find high end content impossible. Note that this system does not require you to spend premium currency but you can speed up the process with it; this is inadvisable for new players who have a lot NRG cap.

So that’s it. If you can handle random luck of the draw in getting good units and you don’t mind setting up an automated system on your PC to grind the best gear for you while you sleep; you can handle the worst this game has to offer!



If you want to join us, download it from your respective Apple/Android store, but DO NOT sync it with your primary Facebook account until you have read the next post.

PaybackJack fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2017 around 23:51

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PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.




★★★★ IMPORTANT ★★★★★

REROLL UNTIL YOU GET A GOOD RAINBOW CHARACTER

For complete information on how to reroll, click here.
This might take a while (as in an hour or more)

Units worth rolling until you get include: Veritas of the Dark, Tidus, Aileen, Orlandeau, Fryevia, and Onion Knight.

Secondary choices, as in you rolled them and really don’t want to reroll anymore: Gilgamesh, Noctis, Reberta, Luneth, Fohlen, Olive and Trance Terra.

All of the units in the first category are the best units in the game and this is your best chance to get them as you have unlimited opportunities to get them, right now, for free. These units are all very future proofed and guaranteed to last you for the next year or so, Aileen, Fryevia, Onion Knight and Tidus are great because their TM is their best weapon. The majority of the units named have also received very good ability awakenings that have kept them in the meta for a long time.

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Once you’ve rolled a good unit, link the account to your primary Facebook account and this will forever associate them. Next time you reinstall the app, choose the login with Facebook option and it will bring back this account.
Next step you’ll want to do is get your friend ID; located by clicking ‘Menu’ on the home page, then clicking ‘Player Info’. Take that code and add it to the Goon Friends Google Doc, add anyone on there that has open slots (make sure to write something ‘Goony’ as your greeting so people know you’re a goon friend), then for good measure post it in the forum and introduce yourself. People will add you and you can use our powerful allies to help coast through most content.

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Once you’re done that bit of prep, you’re ready to start playing the game. New players should focus on doing the story. The story will unlock a few more characters, you’ll get a lot of gear and crafting materials along the way, unlock recipes to craft gear and helpful materia, and by completing the missions in each area you’ll also earn a lot of Lapis. Which you could either use to refresh your NRG to keep grinding the story or just horde for unit pulls. Check the wiki as you go and make sure you talk to everyone as the Espers are hidden and require you to chat up townsfolk to open up their locations on the world map. Espers are very good and important things, which when connected to a unit and leveled will not only enhance that unit’s stats but also give that unit whatever abilities you’ve unlocked by leveling the Esper. Some of these abilities are very strong, make sure you try and unlock all the unique abilities that each Esper has.

Take 10 minutes and read the New Player Guide posted here, on the Exvius Wiki

There is always some event going on in the Vortex but as a new player it might be impossible for you to compete alone. Ask in the thread and see what units can carry what difficulties. Typically, a top tier unit, wielding the best gear, can solo all difficulties up to and including PRO. Depending on the event, ELT may be possible as well. Check in the thread, ask for advice on how to do the events (what skills to use with what units), and don’t try to go in without a good friend unit because you’ll get destroyed at lower levels and you’ll just waste your time and NRG.

Eventually your units will hit a cap on their level and need to be awakened. The materials to go up to 5★ are available from story missions or from the Chamber of Awakening. The materials needed to go from 5★-> 6★ are not available via grinding a vortex or through story missions. They are available either by purchasing a bundle with Lapis(not advisable unless you’re impatient) or waiting for a King Mog event (Highly Advisable). King Mog events occur every month for 2 weeks and will see you grinding battles in the Vortex and accumulating event currency which can be traded for a variety of things, but there will always be a supply of 6★ awakening mats for purchase.

Other things new players should know:

Do your daily quests, completing 5 of them is worth 50 Lapis.

Use your Arena orbs. They are refreshed 1/hr. Use the first 5 you get every day to do Arena battles against other players’ teams don’t worry about losing, you’ll still get the daily rewards (40 Lapis and 1 Star Quartz are the important rewards). Use subsequent orbs to fight your way through the Coliseum section. The Coliseum has some Lapis rewards as well as some other decent rewards.

Go do the story, pop your head in the thread and ask questions, have fun.


PaybackJack fucked around with this message at Sep 3, 2017 around 21:07

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.




Important Links

Wiki - https://www.exviuswiki.com THIS IS YOUR NEW BEST FRIEND, BOOKMARK IT! Exvius SubReddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/ Very helpful for future planning of TMs, awakenings, and enhancements.
Goon Friend Listhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...fZLI/edit#gid=0 Add goons and let them carry you to victory.

Exvius Goon Discord Channelhttps://discord.gg/Jx9b6Rt – If you need immediate help, ask here.

Exvius Macros Webpagehttp://www.ffbemacro.com/ – After reddit drama, the current developer of the macros that we all use and love has founded his own site, keep up to date there.

Unit Build Calculator - http://www.ffbedb.com/tool/unit-calculator – Use this to help figure out what is best in slot (BIS) for your units and explore different builds. Bonuses to stats cap at 300% so use this to help min/max your character.

Unit Awakening Plannerhttps://pardoman.github.io/ffbeawakeningplanner/ – Use this to see how many of each 6★ material you need. Unfortunately, it’s out of date.

Odds Calculator for pulls - http://ffbe-oddsbitch.danposluns.com/??x=7&y=0&z=0 - Use this to see what your odds of getting a banner unit is over X number of different pulls.

Dodge Build Megapost! - https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...6#post473857456 - Scrublord Prime is maintaining a list of all things "dodge". Now you too can field a team of 5 Chizuru that can't be hit by physical attacks. Imagine all the people you've pissed off in the Arena and have a good chuckle.


IMPORTANT INFORMATION
Server resets at 0000 PDT. Maintenence is Thursday Morning. Banners Change on Friday Morning.

Leveling a free summon to max and selling them gives decent gil (1★ = 4,400 | 2★ = 15,000 | 3★ - 32,000)

Most of the bundles are AWFUL. Don't buy them. IF there is an exception, it will be posted about in the thread. The NRG packages are alright if you're low rank and really want to keep playing.

Don’t chase banner units. The rates for Blue(3 ★)/Gold(4 ★)/Rainbow(5 ★) characters are 80%/19%/1%, and the chances of it being a banner unit are 20%/4.75%/.5%

How do I ‘get gud’?
Learn how to chain and finish(aka Chain Capping). This is a pretty decent video that explains how it works. Note that most chainers work best with another copy of the same unit due to how their attacks are staggered.
Good base 4★ chainers are Setzer and Chizuru.
Good base 4★ finishers are Firion and Mercedes.



On top of that, exploit elemental weaknesses with elemental weapons. Keep ATK/MAG buffed. Use debuffs whenever possible; even Imperil and Deprotect, which are learned by many Espers, can increase damage significantly.

I got two of the same chainers but I can't hit 20+ chains, what's the deal?
Each unit has a different frame delay between when you hit the button and when they launch into their attack. Each attack also has a set number of frames between each hit. This is regardless of animation preferences so don't worry if you turned on/off the animations. Most units have a consistent number of frames between each hit, but some have differing numbers of frames which make them difficult to chain, even if the attack itself has a large number of hits. Sometimes this just occurs at the end of an attack, like in the case of Tidus, but other times it can alternate throughout the animation; as in the case of Fryevia.

If you are using two units that are the same, and each is using the same skill, then you just need to press the buttons as fast as you possibly can. In the example linked above, 2 Setzers using 'Red card', to perfectly chain like they do, need to be pressed within 3 FRAMES(not seconds) of each other. Each unit also has a delay between when you activate them and when the first hit lands. You'll want to keep track of that because then you can figure out how long before you'll need to activate your finisher.

To use units with different abilities, you need to look at how many frames are between each hit of that ability. I'm listing some common abilities that you'll see people chaining with and the timings. If you're not sure about a new unit's chain data, ask in the thread.

    Here are some popular abilites and their frame data
    Note: MAGic based attacks do not benefit from Dual Wield

  • Units with consistent frames between hits

    Setzer - Red Card: 42-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3

    Setzer - Prismatic Flash: 42-5-5-5-5-5-5
    Amelia - Disorder: 42-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5
    Chizuru - Phantom Shadow: 22-5-5-5-5
    Rikku - Lightning Rod: 45-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5

    Ace - Tri Laser Beam +2: 64-7-7-7-7-7-7

    Merc. Ramza - Blade of Justice: 42-8-8-8-8-8-8-8

    Rikku - Tidal Wave: 40-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9
    Knight Delita - Commanding Blade: 51-9-9-9-9-9-9-9
    2B - Avoid Attack: 42-9-9-9-9-9-9-9

    Reberta - Mystic Thrust: 42-10-10-10-10-10-10
    Fohlen - Sonic Blast: 42-10-10-10-10-10-10
    Ashe - Sword of Kings: 42-10-10-10-10-10-10
    Ashe - Heaven's Wrath(MAG): 72-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10
    POD 153(9S TMR) - R020: Mirage: 42-10-10-10-10-10-10-10
    Toxic Rain(Octopus Teacher Reward): 50-10-10-10-10-10-10-10

    Rikku - Wnter Storm: 40-13-13-13-13-13-13-13-13

    Aileen - Piledriver: 2-15-15-15-15 (before enhancements)

    Rikku - Burning Soul: 40-25-25-25-25-25-25-25-25

    Trance Terra - Chaos Wave(MAG)(unbuffed): 52-20-20-20-20
    Trance Terra - Chaos Wave(MAG)(buffed): 60-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8

  • Units with inconsistent frames between hits

    Orlandeau - Divine Ruination: 70-7-5-7-7-7-7
    Fryevia - Frost Flower Blitz: 40-7-5-7-7-7-7
    Veritas of the Dark - Dark Punishment(?): 70-7-5-7-7-7-7

    Edgar/Cupid Luna - Chainsaw: 42-8-8-8-8-8-16

    2B - Speed: 2-7-7-7-8-8-8-8-8-8

    Tidus - Quick Hit: 22-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-20

    Gilgamesh - Tri Attack +2: 40-4-6-4-6-4-4-6-4-6-4-6-4

    A2 - Heavy Attack: 42-9-9-9-9-9-5-4-9-5

    A2 - Dash Attack: 9-7-7-8-8-16-8
Data sourced from this Google Sheet. If you're looking for something not found on this list, look here.

I heard character X in Japan is amazingly awesome and game breaking!


If you’re trying to future proof yourself and have units that will still be useful 8 months from now, this is a good list to look at. While there are quite a few units in Global that are Exclusive and we don’t know how their useful will compare in the future, these units are good in the Japanese meta and probably not going to be rendered useless in ours. So far no units have been overly nerfed aside from Noctis who came out far earlier in our meta.

Note that this list takes Enhancements into account and available trust masteries will also change for each player. Generally though these units are still going to be strong even if you can’t get BIS gear on them.

This is a list taken from Famitsu. Check the Exvius Wiki to see when these units were released in Japan and that should give you a rough estimate of how long you’ll need to wait to see them in GL.

Updated June 29th, 2017

Physical attacker - Chainer
1. Aileen (Released in Global)
2. Orlandu
3. Veritas of the Dark
4. Agrias
5. Tidus

Physical attacker - Finisher
1. Cloud
2. Frost Flame Laswell
3. Luneth
4. Noctis
5. Veritas of the Flame

Magic Attacker - Chainer
1. Trance Terra
2. Lunera
3. Ace
4. Lulu
5. William

Magic Attacker - Finisher
1. Sage Sakura
2. Emperor
3. [JP Exclusive Unit]
4. Lunera
5. Lulu

Healing
1. White Lotus Fina
2. Ayaka
3. Tilith
4. Eiko
5. Rem

Support – Primary Stat Buffing
1. Ramza (post enhancements)
2. Roy (February 2017)
3. Lunera

Support – Resistance Buffing
1. Marie
2. Rikku
3. White Lotus Fina

Support – Damage Reduction
1. Crowe
2. 9S
3. Rikku

Support – Single Stat Breaking
1. Ramza (Ramza post enhancements)
2. 9S
3. Tim

Support – Full Breaking
1. Prompto
2. Riesz (May not see Global Release)
3. Lorraine (May not see Global Release)

Support – Resistance Debuffing
1. Ace
2. Seven
3. Veritas of the Flame

Tanking - Provoking
1. Wilhelm
2. [JP Exclusive Unit]
3. Warrior of Light

Tanking – AOE Cover
1. Warrior of Light
2. Charlotte
3. Gladiolus

Tanking – ST Cover
1. Gladiolus
2. Cecil
3. Mercenary Ramza

Tanking – Magic Cover
1. Mistair
2. Gladiolus


Forums user Varance maintains an database of characters both current and upcoming with aggregate ratings from the popular sites, check it out by clicking here.


Previous thread located here

PaybackJack fucked around with this message at Sep 12, 2017 around 23:54

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)

In

Please bring SD3 collab over Gumi

Scrublord Prime
Nov 26, 2007



im bediled as gently caress right now


Dodge Mega Post Bedile Edition

Exvius Wiki's Dodge Page! It's cleaner and probably more up to date than this post!

Weapons
Kiyomori +10% Physical Evade
Swordbreaker +5% Physical Evade
Zwill Crossblade (FF12) +5% Physical Evade
Defender +5% Physical Evade

Armor
Assassin's Vest +10% Physical Evade
Stylish Black Dress +10% Physical Evade (Dangerous Ariana only)
Vampire Cloak +10% Physical Evade

Accessories
Ring of the Lucii +25% Physical Evade
Twenty-Sided Die +20% Physical Evade (unstackable)
Lucky Bangles +10% Physical & Magic Evade
Moogle Cape +10% Magic Evade


Ability Materia
Quick Assault +10% Physical Evade
Evade +10% Physical Evade (Cyan's TM)
Spirit of Freedom +10% Physical Evade (unstackable)
First Strike +5% Physical Evade
Speed Plus +5% Physical Evade
Miracle Step +5% Physical Evade

Units with innate physical evade
Ling (40%)
Chizuru (20% base, can be enhanced to 40%)
Trance Terra (30%)
Lightning (30%, Lightspeed+2 also gives 20% magic evade)
Tidus (30%)
Fohlen (30%)
Soleil (0% base, can be enhanced to 30%)
Zargabaath (20% physical and magic evade)
Noctis (20%)
Xon (20%)
Freyvia (20% Magic AND Phys)
Kefka (20%)
Thancred (20%)
Yda (20% physical evade & 10% magic evade)
Rikku (20%)
Helena (20%)
2B (20% physical evade & 10% magic evade)
A2 (20% physical evade & 10% magic evade)
9S (20%)
Randi (15%)
Vaan (15%)
Lawrence (10%)
Setzer (10%)
Shiki (10%)
Shine (10%)


Last updated list on 2017-08-17

Thanks to Payback Jack for the original post and all contributors!

Scrublord Prime fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2017 around 14:38

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

USPOL May

Friday will be a good day for newbies since that freebie 10+1 ticket will make rerolling for solid units much more viable and less soul-crushing.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG



for some reason i thought somebody confirmed we were gonna get that nier automata event over here

hamsystem
Nov 11, 2010

Fuzzy pickles!


gently caress bitches, get TMs, pull rainbows

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.


To paraphrase Youtuber, CarlSagan42 "GET loving HYPE Y'ALL!"

It's already 6am on the 29th where I live.

The countdown has begun!

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG



i am actually tempted to spend some cash to get a rikku, someone slap my credit card out of my hands and make me buy drugs instead.

AegisP
Oct 5, 2008


rabidsquid posted:

for some reason i thought somebody confirmed we were gonna get that nier automata event over here

It was either mentioned in a Q&A stream or one of the anniversary leadups that they're working on getting the Nier Collab over to global, but I don't have the info on hand. No ETA either way.

dangerous.hotdog
Feb 29, 2008


I hope the new bundle is good.

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Lipstick Apathy

PaybackJack posted:

Updated June 29th, 2017

Support – Primary Stat Buffing
2. Roy (February 2017)

Um... We don't have a Roy unit...


PaybackJack posted:

Tanking – AOE Cover
3. Gladios

Tanking – ST Cover
1. Gladios

Tanking – Magic Cover
2. Gladios

I'm guessing these are Gladio (Gladiolus) from Final Fantasy XV?

Khisanth Magus
Mar 30, 2011

Vae Victus

Kheldarn posted:

Um... We don't have a Roy unit...


I'm guessing these are Gladio (Gladiolus) from Final Fantasy XV?

That is the jp list.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.


Kheldarn posted:

Um... We don't have a Roy unit...


I'm guessing these are Gladio (Gladiolus) from Final Fantasy XV?

I hadn't played FFXV so I didn't know his name so I just threw that in there until I got around to looking it up. Changed it now.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

USPOL May

Khisanth Magus posted:

That is the jp list.

All the more reason it shouldn't be in the OP. New players aren't going to know what enhancements mean and someone will pull something like Agrias, and if they don't mention it in here they'll think they got a good unit when she's currently outclassed severely and will probably remain as such for the next few months.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG



or there will be people asking me why i hate my ramzas so much

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



Here's a link to the odds calculator if you wish to add to the op.

http://ffbe-oddsbitch.danposluns.com/??x=7&y=0&z=0

Khisanth Magus
Mar 30, 2011

Vae Victus

Evil Fluffy posted:

All the more reason it shouldn't be in the OP. New players aren't going to know what enhancements mean and someone will pull something like Agrias, and if they don't mention it in here they'll think they got a good unit when she's currently outclassed severely and will probably remain as such for the next few months.

It is literally under the "I heard x unit is broken in Japan" heading, in the post for advanced players.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

Speedy Snacker


everyone get your pulling gloves ready for the anniversary

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



Cry Havoc posted:

everyone get your pulling gloves ready for the anniversary



I'm already there! Did a 500 Lapis pull just now cause the OP told me not to.




I got a swimsuit Lid...

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Lipstick Apathy

Cartoon Man posted:

Here's a link to the odds calculator if you wish to add to the op.

http://ffbe-oddsbitch.danposluns.com/??x=7&y=0&z=0

So, according to that, you need:
7,468 Regular Pulls (Including tickets, dailies and 500 lapis draws)
OR
424 10+1 Pulls (5,000 Lapis version)
OR
980 Guaranteed 4★ Tickets

To get 100% chance for a 5★.


Cartoon Man posted:

I'm already there! Did a 500 Lapis pull just now cause the OP told me not to.




I got a swimsuit Lid...

Hellow, Fellow Swimsuit Lid Haver.

Candlelight Virgil
Jan 20, 2012

Frank the Fox


Scrublord Prime
Nov 26, 2007



I've got ~130% in moogles, piles of stat pots, and enough awakening mats and cactuars to shoot any character straight up to 6* lv100. Can't wait to pull Delita/2nd Lightning/Queen!

Bubba Fuzz
May 3, 2009



I'm taking full advantage of the 1/2 energy story missions to get all the achievement lapis rewards from past story missions. Should put me over 15k. Looking forward to another Delita.

new kind of cat
May 8, 2007

<--- not a japanophile



pumped as gently caress for my guaranteed 10 + Queen!

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008



Getting ready for all that despair in the discord tomorrow as everyone doesnt get the 5* that they want

Kheldarn
Feb 17, 2011



Lipstick Apathy

Might want to include this in the OP: Best Places To Farm.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

...as much revenge as any man could possibly take.


Kheldarn posted:

Might want to include this in the OP: Best Places To Farm.

I was trying not to load the post up with information that you could hunt down on the wiki, but I think I will make a list under that and the subreddit with direct links to useful lists like the enhancements and TMR page, or the update schedule and that for the wiki.

Edit: Done.

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hagie
Apr 5, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied

I just unequipped everyone to prep for tomorrow and regear a bunch

WoL 6*, check

Varance
Oct 28, 2004

Ladies, hide your footwear!

Doctor Rope

So... the anniversary guaranteed 5* pull. Let's talk odds.

There are 23 possible 5*s from the pull. 22 if Tidus is excluded (unlikely).

Each characters has a ~4.35% chance of appearing as the rainbow special.

Characters by Tier:

~39.15% chance of a really good unit: Orlandeau, Noctis, Tidus, Olive, Fryevia, Aileen, Wilhelm, Rem or Reberta
~34.8% chance of a good unit: Marie, Fohlen, Trance Terra, Luneth, Dark Fina, Seabreeze Dark Fina, Emperor or Gilgamesh
~17.4% chance of getting a mediocre unit that has to be enhanced to be useful: Lightning, Queen, Ace or Ramza
~8.7% chance of getting a terrible unit with a good trust: Dark Knight Cecil or Delita

As someone who has both Dark Knight Cecil and Delita... that 8.7% feels more like a 99.9%

Varance fucked around with this message at Jun 29, 2017 around 00:10

Skyridge
Jan 1, 2011



I'd actually be ok with a Delita simply for his TM. Of course, admitting that has resigned me to a Lightning.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004



Varance posted:

Each characters has a ~4.35% chance of appearing as the rainbow special.

Hahahahahahahahhahhah! Oh man that's a good one!

hagie
Apr 5, 2004

All sensitivity has long ago atrophied

Varance posted:

So... the anniversary guaranteed 5* pull. Let's talk odds.

There are 23 possible 5*s from the pull. 22 if Tidus is excluded (unlikely).

Each characters has a ~4.35% chance of appearing as the rainbow special.

Characters by Tier:

~39.15% chance of a really good unit: Orlandeau, Noctis, Tidus, Olive, Fryevia, Aileen, Wilhelm, Rem or Reberta
~34.8% chance of a good unit: Marie, Fohlen, Trance Terra, Luneth, Dark Fina, Seabreeze Dark Fina, Emperor or Gilgamesh
~17.4% chance of getting a mediocre unit that has to be enhanced to be useful: Lightning, Queen, Ace or Ramza
~8.7% chance of getting a terrible unit with a good trust: Dark Knight Cecil or Delita

As someone who has both Dark Knight Cecil and Delita... that 8.7% feels more like a 99.9%

You bastards have been teasing the head of the cock (a metaphor for this banner specifically) long enough that i have 20 tickets and 1 4* guarantee pull in the chamber. Pair that with the 10+1 and 5*

I will put the blame on all of you.

SereneCrimson
Oct 10, 2007

I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!


So aside from the lapis I got for the guaranteed 5* pull, I have 24 tickets, 2 4* tickets and 10K lapis ready for this banner. If the anniversary bundle is a good price that's an extra two 11 pulls.

I want Tidus dammit!
Also have 200% in trust moogles, hoping for something decent to put them into.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

Speedy Snacker


Varance posted:

So... the anniversary guaranteed 5* pull. Let's talk odds.

There are 23 possible 5*s from the pull. 22 if Tidus is excluded (unlikely).

Each characters has a ~4.35% chance of appearing as the rainbow special.

Characters by Tier:

~39.15% chance of a really good unit: Orlandeau, Noctis, Tidus, Olive, Fryevia, Aileen, Wilhelm, Rem or Reberta
~34.8% chance of a good unit: Marie, Fohlen, Trance Terra, Luneth, Dark Fina, Seabreeze Dark Fina, Emperor or Gilgamesh
~17.4% chance of getting a mediocre unit that has to be enhanced to be useful: Lightning, Queen, Ace or Ramza
~8.7% chance of getting a terrible unit with a good trust: Dark Knight Cecil or Delita

As someone who has both Dark Knight Cecil and Delita... that 8.7% feels more like a 99.9%

dk cecil is gonna be a top tier finisher with his enhancements

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

USPOL May

Sitting on about 300% worth of moogles right now. Sorely tempted to feed 65% of that to Roselia for her TM for Tilith and 100% will go to Rikku unless I don't pull her with the 80+ tickets and 22k lapis I have.

Skyridge posted:

I'd actually be ok with a Delita simply for his TM. Of course, admitting that has resigned me to a Lightning.

Congrats on your upcoming Queen!

McSpankWich
Aug 31, 2005

Plum Island Animal Disease Research Center. Sounds charming.

Cry Havoc posted:

dk cecil is gonna be a top tier finisher with his enhancements

Yea, I was just going to say this. His enhancements make him Really Good.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010


All in all this brave frontier event wasn't bad at all. I got like a power and black magic pure crysts, took out all of the power and black magic giantcrysts, stock up on 6* mats, got all the tickets, the 10% moogle and I'm going to get all cactuars to feed my WoL once he awakens.

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Ratmtattat
Mar 10, 2004
the hairdryer

My body is ready for Delita #2 and tons of disappointment as I fail to pull Rikku. Let's do this!

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