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all-Rush mixtape posted:I still think the thread should've been called They Called the Third Spider-Man "Spider-Man: Homecoming" Sixth Spiderman.
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drat this was good. I can't think of a single character that I didn't enjoy the hell out of. Michelle was wonderful, and though it was kinda contrived I was super happy for the guarantee that she'd be a major character going forward. Considering how many characters teases and cameos there were, I was surprised that there was no mention of Gwen Stacey or the Osborns. Unless I missed it. I get that they're pretty done to death now though so it's probably best to leave them be. And any Norman Osborn not played by Willem Dafoe will forever be a waste of the character anyway. I also enjoyed that the last words in a 12 rated Marvel movie were 'What the gently caress'.
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Jul 7, 2017 22:22
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Hollismason posted:I think people being disappointed that this didn't have any origin stuff kind of miss somewhat that this is a coming of age story which in it's way a origin story. It isn't a story about how Spider Man got his powers or how he decides to fight crime or be a superhero , but instead how Peter Parker becomes Spider - Man. I thought that was really interesting. Also we've seen the origin story on screen twice in the last 15 years. I'm super glad they decided not to waste any time on it this time around. I can just imagine a film that takes an hour to get Peter in the suit, then introduces Keaton's Vulture as a threat, and it's just the same loving thing we've seen in every other one of these films. We were lucky to avoid it this time.
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Jul 8, 2017 00:39
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MiddleOne posted:Society literally bankrupts him while being condescending in the process. I mean, he probably had options to profit from the situation that weren't literal death rays. I, Butthole posted:It has Thanos doing a huge (and super well done) speech on patience and has Goldblum's Thor character in it briefly too, so it's just an Avengers 3 teaser. Probably the most substantial post-credits thing Marvel has done since Thor's hammer. 
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Jul 8, 2017 10:12
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Serf posted:Oh you're definitely right. But after Peter rejects Toomes' offer of class consciousness in favor of that lovely Father Figure, he becomes just as much a villain as Stark. That's not what Peter does though. He rejects an offer to turn a blind eye to black market WMD distribution. He's a 14 year old and neither understands or cares about the great class implications, or what a lovely person Tony is. But even if he did it wouldn't matter because Toomes is selling loving space nukes to petty criminals.
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Jul 8, 2017 15:15
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Serf posted:Actually, now that I think about it Toomes actually didn't offer Peter anything in that scene did he? He admitted it was all just to keep him talking to get his trap up and running. So yeah, my bad on that point. Toomes probably didn't think to try and turn Peter, or reckoned he was too far gone. Oh right, yeah. I thought you meant the car scene where he was told he could live if he didn't interfere (which was a step up from "I will definitely kill Spiderman").
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Jul 8, 2017 15:34
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Shinjobi posted:The mode you're complaining about was not supposed to be used. ...
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Jul 8, 2017 17:12
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Doronin posted:- I don't really know why this movie gave Michelle so much screen time. She added nothing but an occasional moment of comic relief, and saying, "My friends call me MJ," when it's fairly obvious she isn't that MJ made no sense." She is though, for all intents and purposes. She's not a white redhead and she doesn't have the same personality, but I don't see any reason to think she won't play the same role going forward. She was also the best character gently caress you.
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Jul 8, 2017 19:56
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hiddenriverninja posted:Michael Giacchino did the score for this, correct? Feels like his music is everywhere now. And yet his music is nowhere because it barely exists.
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Jul 8, 2017 21:27
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Serf posted:Also the design of the Vulture's suit is just great. The fur-lined jacket and the leather look is very cool. Combined with that menacing helmet and the overlarge wings with their turbines, it was a drat cool look. The contrast between Toomes' bulky wings and the sleek suit used by the Falcon is interesting as well. I absolutely loved the bird noises that came out of the suit. It was surprisingly subtle. Like he jammed in a speaker that generated noises based on the suit's movement, but not so loud that it's obnoxious.
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Jul 8, 2017 23:10
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kater posted:Pretty disappointed how kid unfriendly this is. Multiple f bombs, a bad guy focused on classism, a porn joke, lots of dark combat. It's a step up from amazing 2's ridiculous pointlessness but feels way too much like something aimed at marvel fans. Also a bestiality joke. I can only remember one gently caress though.
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Jul 8, 2017 23:24
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LividLiquid posted:This is the most sympathetic villain in the MCU, and if he didn't literally threaten to murder a child, he'd be a straight-up antihero at odds with a normal hero. He. Sells. W. M. Ds.
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Jul 9, 2017 00:50
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Fangz posted:They probably didn't call her MJ so as not to distract from Liz as the romantic interest. If people knew MJ was in this they would assume Peter-Liz was doomed. Yeah, that's what I assumed. The way they did it means we know she'll have an important role in the future, but that knowledge didn't distract us or detract from her character during the film.
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Jul 9, 2017 13:12
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In a world of reboots what does it even mean to be 'the same character'. The three on-screen Peter Parkers we've seen are no more 'the same character' than Mary Jane and Michelle. What qualifies as being the same? Having the same name, playing the same role in the story or being the literal exact same person played by a different actor?
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Jul 9, 2017 16:23
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I never really got that take on the film. I considered it more a big dumb action movie with one or two scenes that are reminiscent of spy movies. It's fine.
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Jul 10, 2017 09:37
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VolticSurge posted:In a shocking twist, the Redlettermedia guys liked this movie. Which means that maybe their hateboner for the MCU might be a tad unjustified. They've liked nearly every MCU movie to some extent. VolticSurge posted:Don't watch any of their stuff related to Star Wars. They harp on the They really liked TFA and were middling on Rogue One. They don't like the idea of Star Wars becoming an annualised shared universe shitfest but they (well Mike) thought Star Wars had been firmly ruined before Disney even touched it.
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Jul 10, 2017 21:06
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Ned's just a friendly doof who thinks hats are cool. When he's 17 he'll be a shitheel, of course.
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Jul 12, 2017 23:17
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Stark has never done anything without the suit. Never flew, never been metal, never gone into alien portals, nothing.
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Jul 14, 2017 07:58
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The Lord Bude posted:Kevin Feige has explicitly said that Michelle is not Mary Jane Watson. The initials were just intended to be a wink to the fans. She is a different character, so people can stop worrying about her character being ruined. He's wrong though.
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Jul 14, 2017 08:48
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Junior Jr. posted:2. I only see art school students buying into this poo poo because that's how they want to be "woke" and free-spirited, I don't know if you talked to any teenagers on what they really want in life...but I'm sure they have other goals in mind other than just being super smart about the world. Also in terms of attractiveness, Liz actually looks cute...my guess is she's about an 8, this girl looks like a 4 or 5 at best You're a loving oval office.
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Jul 14, 2017 22:27
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Hey so am I stupid or could Peter solve his dissatisfaction at the beginning by just getting a police scanner or whatever and using that to find actual crime to fight? If he still wasn't satisfied with that and wanted to be an Avenger, that would be one thing. But his motivation is "I'm not actually helping anyone, why can't I be an Avenger so I can use my powers to help people?" It undercuts the entire movie. I don't know how the US police system works, but are they actually available to the public? (If so, why the gently caress?) I can't imagine this Peter getting one illegally.
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Jul 15, 2017 22:03
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Dude you can listen to police radio traffic live streaming on the internet. That is so loving stupid.
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Jul 15, 2017 22:17
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:How so? I would've thought they'd want to avoid legit criminals knowing their every move.
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Jul 15, 2017 22:46
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Sir Kodiak posted:When I think of problems with policing in the US, too much transparency to the public isn't exactly what I land on. Yeah fair enough. Just seems counter productive.
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Jul 15, 2017 22:58
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:God, no. Man that one's aged like poo poo but I remember loving it when it first aired.
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Jul 16, 2017 10:53
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Daredevil season 1 and Jessica Jones are as good as almost every MCU film (and better than most of them). Those two at the very least deserve to be acknowledged. Just don't let Danny Rand be involved in any way, shape or form.
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Jul 17, 2017 18:27
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massive spider posted:The plot kind of suffers a bit from the "don't talk about uncle ben everyone is sick of it" thing. I mean the story is basically about Peter, an orphan who just lost his last father figure latching onto Tony Stark in an unhealthy way while fighting his girlfriends Dad. But it can't mention uncle ben. I think they'd have mentioned Uncle Ben if they thought they had to. They really didn't have to.
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Jul 31, 2017 21:31
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The result is that Spider-Man has no motivation to be a hero beyond thrills and pleasing Tony Stark. Guy A. Person posted:Yeah I gotta agree, I think they did well there by showing and not telling. You see him being raised by his aunt and you see him latch onto Tony for male guidance. You don't need to be explicitly told that a young teenage boy is craving a male role model.
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Aug 1, 2017 19:03
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Now imagine if it wasn't satire, and you've got Spider-Man: Homecoming. Do you think Homecoming portrays Stark in a good light, or support's Peter's wish to please him?
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Aug 2, 2017 18:34
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Shageletic posted:In the comics Parker was a dick until he got powers. And after he got powers. I do love "I missed the part where that's my problem" though. Tobey really sells being an utter poo poo.
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Aug 2, 2017 22:14
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got any sevens posted:Dont forget https://youtu.be/11tbL8l5Av8 I always forget the Val Kilmer was formally the man bat.
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Aug 5, 2017 13:12
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The Lord Bude posted:I just rewatched this now that it's available on itunes, and I just realised something... Why the gently caress were they eating thai food with chopsticks? Because they're not Thai and give no fucks?
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Oct 12, 2017 19:01
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I don't think I've ever been sent chopsticks with any kind of takeaway... That happens?
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The Lord Bude posted:That doesn’t explain why the Thai restaurant had chopsticks in the first place. It would be like going to an Italian restaurant and randomly being given chopsticks. Thai people eat with a fork and a spoon. Yeah but they're selling their food to Americans and might not be a very good. And in the UK you almost always get the option of chopsticks in Chinese or Thai restaurants, but I don't think I've ever had them delivered.
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