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Neurosis posted:Got my email for completing my GMMK Pro order today - I'd preordered in December, if that gives anyone waiting an idea of when to expect theirs. Was December considered part of batch 1, or the flex batch? I actually just placed my order for one last night and they are estimating Q2 ship date(April-June) for flex batch. I'm pretty new to the game but I do know that things tend to move pretty slow in this market. Just wondering if I'll actually see mine by June or if I should look elsewhere to use up these switches I have for now.
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Stroop There It Is posted:hello my name is stroop and I spent a good 5 minutes trying to get a gat blue out of a socket before I realized I'd accidently bought the non-hotswap version of the board If you learn to desolder, every socket is hot swap
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mewse posted:If you learn to desolder, every socket is hot swap It's really just different definitions of the word "hot".
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llibja posted:Was December considered part of batch 1, or the flex batch? I actually just placed my order for one last night and they are estimating Q2 ship date(April-June) for flex batch. I'm pretty new to the game but I do know that things tend to move pretty slow in this market. Just wondering if I'll actually see mine by June or if I should look elsewhere to use up these switches I have for now. What color did you order? Black is Q2 and White is Q3. Debating canceling my GMK Pro order for something else. Does anyone know what the difference is between the IDOBAO ID80 V1 vs. V2. V2 is $60 more.
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Stroop There It Is posted:hello my name is stroop and I spent a good 5 minutes trying to get a gat blue out of a socket before I realized I'd accidently bought the non-hotswap version of the board hateswap
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mariooncrack posted:What color did you order? Black is Q2 and White is Q3. I went with the black.
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mariooncrack posted:What color did you order? Black is Q2 and White is Q3. V2 comes standard with acrylic plate on the bottom for underglow (they eventually offered it for V1, but they didn't launch with it), and the V2 also comes with a brass weight on the back. Personally, I'd go with the V2, as the brass weight will give it nice heft and make it feel premium. Most of the more expensive boards have something similar, so it'll give you a good idea what those feel like, but at a much lower pricepoint. Altogether, the ID80 V2 is a great board for the price.
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llibja posted:Was December considered part of batch 1, or the flex batch? I actually just placed my order for one last night and they are estimating Q2 ship date(April-June) for flex batch. I'm pretty new to the game but I do know that things tend to move pretty slow in this market. Just wondering if I'll actually see mine by June or if I should look elsewhere to use up these switches I have for now. Flex. Batch 1 sold out in hours.
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Neurosis posted:Got my email for completing my GMMK Pro order today - I'd preordered in December, if that gives anyone waiting an idea of when to expect theirs. Lucky you. That switch puller looks to be a knock off of Rama's switch puller which is garbage.
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I tried to stay positive about the GMMK Pro but there is too many issues for me to keep waiting out for that thing. Broken screws, 3rd party stab compatibility, a pc plate that pops switches out and the QMK issue is a deal breaker for me. Some of the other reviewers are showing rollover issues which is not going to work for me since I will be using them at home on the gaming pc setup. I spent the extra money on a KBDFans Bella so I could actually use the Red Samurai keycaps without bottom row issues with the DuRock Eva-02 Linears. Weeaboo as gently caress but I am going to like it when it all put together.
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I'm sure the GMMK Pro will have noticeable improvements in V2 that address many of the current issues with it, but yeah I wouldn't buy it / recommend it right now. This tends to be how all glorious releases go - V1 is a decent product with some flaws and QC issues that get patched up in future revisions.
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Worst case I gift it up a friend or something, eyeing the Keychron K4 anyway
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interrodactyl posted:I'm sure the GMMK Pro will have noticeable improvements in V2 that address many of the current issues with it, but yeah I wouldn't buy it / recommend it right now. This tends to be how all glorious releases go - V1 is a decent product with some flaws and QC issues that get patched up in future revisions. It's a drat shame that they do that all the time with their products. I do like how they are making premium custom keyboards affordable to the masses but when their design and build choices are shined under the light, it make me feel like this whole thing needs more time in the oven. If this was a group buy, there would be blood on the street but because it is Glorious they are being given a second chance to correct things. I just hope the people who buy the first version of the GMMK Pro aren't turned off by the hobby due to the issues if they are new to it.
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I've seen a lot of negative reviews on the GMMK Pro lately. Are there any other 75% hot swap boards under $200 to consider? Besides the IDOBAO ID80 V2.
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mariooncrack posted:I've seen a lot of negative reviews on the GMMK Pro lately. Are there any other 75% hot swap boards under $200 to consider? Besides the IDOBAO ID80 V2. HK Gaming's Galaxy 75 became available recently. That's $100.
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TacticalHoodie posted:It's a drat shame that they do that all the time with their products. I do like how they are making premium custom keyboards affordable to the masses but when their design and build choices are shined under the light, it make me feel like this whole thing needs more time in the oven. If this was a group buy, there would be blood on the street but because it is Glorious they are being given a second chance to correct things. So, I've done a pretty big teardown of the GMMK Pro, and I think there are a few things to consider: - For the people that the board is aimed at (newer people to the hobby, or people with a smaller budget) it is very good for the price. - The majority of the negatives are coming from people with a lot more experience with boards, and the negatives are, really, non-issues for the vast majority of owners. - The thing that generated so much hype for it is also what's working against it -- being compared to the Satisfaction 75, a Group Buy board that goes for $450 (2x the price of the GMMK Pro, if you can even get one) and sells for nearly $1300 in the aftermarket. Realistically, they're aimed at very different segments of the hobby and the market. - Yes the board is stiff and pretty pingy. As are the vast majority of custom Group Buy boards. People have no qualms about shoving foam in their $700 board to dull the higher pitch, so it's a bit strange to me that people would be complaining about a higher pitch sound from a sub-$200 board. - Could it have been made better? Yes, absolutely. The plate cutouts being too small for a lot of stabilizers is really my biggest, and only, issue. There's really no excuse for that. I am currently in the process of making FR4 plates with better cutouts, and buying aftermarket plates for boards is pretty common anyway, but there's really no excuse for their way-to-small stab cutouts on their plates. StupidFish has made foam for it as well, and I can personally attest to the fact that it works really well. And just so I wasn't clear, yes, I do believe the GMMK Pro is a good board for the price. It's a nice step up from their other boards and it will, presumably, be an in-stock buy once the pre-orders are fulfilled. If you're buying $500 GB boards, it's probably not for you. If you're looking for a sub-200 board in a 75% form factor (absolutely DO NOT buy an HK Gaming anything, seriously, more on that in a bit), there really aren't too many options, let alone options where the board is available. Off the top of my head, your realistic options for a 75% board right now are: -IDOBAO ID80 ($140, but can't swap plates at all) -Bella ($270), KBD84 ($200, solderable only) -Tofu84 ($160-$175, solderable only) -KBD75 ($200, solderable only but can probably find hotswap) None of those have the same layout as the GMMK Pro, and don't have the rotary encoder. Most of them aren't easy to find hotswap versions, either. Again, I'd just like to reiterate, if your budget is around $200, it is very much a good board for the price, and you're not going to find a similar form-factor and build quality anywhere near its price range. On the topic of HK Gaming: I really REALLY do not recommend buying anything from them. They knowingly, and willingly, steal keycap designs, make poor copies, and are openly aggressive and borderline childish towards people that call them out on it. Their boards also have known freezing issues, and their solution is to send you a replacement USB cable -- something that absolutely does not fix the issue (it's a poor quality PCB issue). Here are just a few examples of their responses when being called out for their practices:  Just so we're clear, "HFSP" from HK Gaming there means "Have Fun Staying Poor". And here's where they thought it would be a good idea to ask Oblotzky (a very well respected member of the community) if he'd like to sell their knock-off versions of the very sets that he was selling: https://imgur.com/a/bZoe4XR#I6muMFc All that said, there are definitely a lot of issues with the way that keycaps are currently being designed and run. $125-$200, and 12+months wait is insane. If you didn't get in the original GB, you're regularly looking at $250+ for a specific set. That's also pretty insane. For a lot of people, those price-points are way too high, and that's why HK Gaming (which, by the way is actually a French company with shell companies in Hong Kong) is so popular -- because they make affordable copies of sets. I get it if you can't afford the latest GMK hotness, and I'm happy to help anyone and everyone find an alternative that isn't from HK or GMK. That said, there are TONS of better places to buy keycaps from, off the top of my head: - https://1upkeyboards.com/product-category/keycaps/ (one of my personal favorites, tons of sets here) - https://kineticlabs.store/keycaps - https://divinikey.com/collections/keycap-sets - https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps - https://en.akkogear.com/store/keycap/ - https://drop.com/mechanical-keyboards/wdrops/Ready-to-Ship-Keycaps
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Neurosis posted:HK Gaming's Galaxy 75 became available recently. That's $100. Please don't buy from HK Gaming. Gearman already beat me to it but here's a reddit thread where the Oblotzky thing was posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/jpyzzk/so_a_hk_gaming_reseller_thought_that_it_would_be/ HK is just a terrible antagonistic company. They aren't just trying to make money by copying sets, they are actively trying to take food out of the mouths of designers. They refused requests to run specific colors or to just design their own sets, stating that they're trying to "punish" designers and group buy runners. Kenneth has stated many times that he "hates designers" and believes that they should not be paid for their work and that keyboard vendors are just terrible people who steal customers money. Besides, their customer service is terrible. If you have a problem or even just a question about your order from them, I wouldn't be surprised if they told you to get hosed and HFSP. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 3, 2021 |
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Isn't the ping mostly down to the switch? I tried Cherry Browns, Alpaca V2s, Gateron Reds and Gateron Yellows in the same board and each one had a different severity in the 'ping'. Gateron Yellows were by far the pingiest but the ping in the reds and browns were barely audible.
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Gearman posted:So, I've done a pretty big teardown of the GMMK Pro, and I think there are a few things to consider: I agree that Glorious targeted a pretty specific need in the market and did it pretty well - 75%, hotswap, RGB, rotary knob, entry. The way I think of the board is that it makes it so you should basically never buy a Drop keyboard. But their implementation of a bunch of features and their awful QC leaves a lot to be desired - I've seen 3 in person, and each one has had bizarre issues. One of them had the screws snap off inside of the case, which is something I've also seen from other people. On the good side, you're not SOL like you are from a GB and Glorious is making it right for the people who bought it. As with pretty much any Glorious product, I think the V2 improvements will make a huge difference and will remove most of the reservations I have for recommending this product. Right now? I'd tell my friends to wait if they don't need it this instant. Rollie Fingers posted:Isn't the ping mostly down to the switch? There's lots of different kinds of ping - plate ping, case ping, leaf ping, spring ping. Some are more noticeable than others.
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alg posted:my friend still has one on pre-order. how bad are the issues with VIA and QMK? You have to use Glorious Core and there is a good chance that if they get a board in Q3 it has no QMK support until they make a firmware to have it support it. It does not have VIA support out of the box but the mech community seems to be keen on making sure to make support VIA somehow since Glorious Core is a piece of poo poo that requires you to save every single change each time. GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Please don't buy from HK Gaming. HK Gaming is pretty shady as the last little while. G-Wolves ended their relationship with HK Gaming due to accusations of money laundering and stealing mouse designs. HK Gaming told everyone to get hosed.
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One keyboard I saw being thrown praises was the Royal Kludge line, specifically the RK84. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0JG2YvfKMc
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TacticalHoodie posted:You have to use Glorious Core and there is a good chance that if they get a board in Q3 it has no QMK support until they make a firmware to have it support it. It does not have VIA support out of the box but the mech community seems to be keen on making sure to make support VIA somehow since Glorious Core is a piece of poo poo that requires you to save every single change each time. Yeah and I ended my relationship with Durgod because of their association with HK.
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TacticalHoodie posted:I tried to stay positive about the GMMK Pro but there is too many issues for me to keep waiting out for that thing. Broken screws, 3rd party stab compatibility, a pc plate that pops switches out and the QMK issue is a deal breaker for me. Some of the other reviewers are showing rollover issues which is not going to work for me since I will be using them at home on the gaming pc setup. What are the rollover issues with the GMMK Pro? I couldn't find anything in a search, but it would be an issue for me, too. Whenever I'm looking at boards, I always end up nitpicking the layout. If I cancel my GMMK Pro, I might just go with a classic TKL layout, like the ID87v2. The Keychron C1 would have been perfect if it was programmable; apparently Keychron has "unnamed QMK keyboard (75%)" in the works, but that's probably a ways out. I'd be willing to overlook my layout nitpicks if anything was actually in-stock, which is pretty much the main reason I even considered the GMMK Pro in the first place. I wish I had some room to solder, it would certainly give me more options.
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Positronic Spleen posted:What are the rollover issues with the GMMK Pro? I couldn't find anything in a search, but it would be an issue for me, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_23j28Ue3Jw&t=460s Brandon Taylor was talking about his experiences where random keystrokes did not register in game and while typing. He also had one of his boards brick from doing the firmware update. It might have been with his board or firmware before launch but the variety of issues does not inspire confidence. I also feel like I have gotten into the hobby so much that I wanted to take the leap into full custom but trying deal with sticker shock on the higher end of things. The GMMK Pro is really great for someone who is starting out or upgrading from a first mech keyboard. I just feel like I want something more custom than what the GMMK Pro can offer and using VIA as well.
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Just wanted to say that I switched my Gateron Yellows to Boba U4Ts and these things are very, very nice. Pricey, but absolutely recommend. I feel like these are gonna be on whatever my eventual "endgame" board is. I love how linears sound, but from what I've felt, they can't top this.
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i've actually been using my moonlander as my main keyboard. even when coding. so I want to get some cool keycaps for the sucker. has anyone put out sets for them? also what's the deal with gmk keycaps? they seem interesting
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I don't see the Drop Alt or Ctrl coming up much here, and at a glance it seems like those should be strong contenders in the same space the GMMK Pro is in. I don't actually know much about those boards, but have seen a few positive-ish YouTube reviews. Is there some reason I'm unaware of that they aren't coming up in these conversations? E: they're actually strong contenders for my upcoming build right now, so any experience or perspective anyone has about them would be swell.
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DrHammond posted:I don't see the Drop Alt or Ctrl coming up much here, and at a glance it seems like those should be strong contenders in the same space the GMMK Pro is in. I don't actually know much about those boards, but have seen a few positive-ish YouTube reviews. Is there some reason I'm unaware of that they aren't coming up in these conversations? Build quality and features are pretty good for the price. Drop is a lovely company not too far away from gLoRiOuS MaStEr RaCe level of lovely.
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DrHammond posted:I don't see the Drop Alt or Ctrl coming up much here, and at a glance it seems like those should be strong contenders in the same space the GMMK Pro is in. I don't actually know much about those boards, but have seen a few positive-ish YouTube reviews. Is there some reason I'm unaware of that they aren't coming up in these conversations? I've read their mounting isn't great and they draw a lot of power for some reason, but other than that they seem OK
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The Drop boards all have north facing switch sockets, so they’ll have basic compatibility issues with Cherry profile key caps.
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LochNessMonster posted:Build quality and features are pretty good for the price. Drop is a lovely company not too far away from gLoRiOuS MaStEr RaCe level of lovely. I disagree that build quality is good at any price. It's a real lovely pcb design and can't even take 5 pin switches without modifying them. The case isn't a feature so much as it is a gimmick considering how paper thin it is, and the mounting is somehow worse than just a regular tray mount. They managed to make the PCB part of the case assembly by using case screws with collars. The PCB rests on the collars of the screws and is just sort of pressed up against the top plate. It feels like poo poo, and sounds like poo poo. The RGB leds is really the only thing that it has going for it, but at the price you're better off just getting something actually nice from RGBKB or P3D or any number of other stacked acrylic vendors. I paid only a little more for my Prime Elise from Sneakbox, and while it doesn't have RGB it's still one of my favorite boards. Also, yeah Drop is a lovely company.
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DrHammond posted:I don't see the Drop Alt or Ctrl coming up much here, and at a glance it seems like those should be strong contenders in the same space the GMMK Pro is in. I don't actually know much about those boards, but have seen a few positive-ish YouTube reviews. Is there some reason I'm unaware of that they aren't coming up in these conversations? I have a drop CTRL (with a high profile case) and a Shift. I've never been a fan of the very smaller form factors so I never considered the Alt. The only problem I've run in to is that the Shift did not like running from an un-powered (USB Bus power only) KVM, but worked fine plugged directly in to my PC or from my, or from a newer, better, powered KVM. That wasn't even unique to the shift, I had problems with a Kira on the same pretty cheap KVM as well. e: I have a post earlier in the thread putting together my current board: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3825351&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=182#post513329309 I remain very very satisfied with this build after a couple months of use. It's extremely solidly put together, and there's nothing left making me go "If only it did/didn't do..." Gunder posted:The Drop boards all have north facing switch sockets, so they’ll have basic compatibility issues with Cherry profile key caps. I don't know what this means, the socket orientation on the drop boards is exactly the same as it is on every other board I've ever used? (Kira, GMMK, WASD, Filco, etc). I've had a set of gmk caps on here that was totally fine. The only functional mark I have against the drop boards is that as noted the PCBs are for 3 pin switches only. So for 5 pin switches you have to spend 20 minutes cutting off the extra plastic posts, and many of the nicest switches are 5 pin models. Not a large thing in the scheme of things, but it's certainly an annoyance. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 14:36 on May 4, 2021 |
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Gwaihir posted:I don't know what this means, the socket orientation on the drop boards is exactly the same as it is on every other board I've ever used? (Kira, GMMK, WASD, Filco, etc). I've had a set of gmk caps on here that was totally fine. It means that Cherry profile keycaps will bang off the switch housing on your ASDF row.
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Gunder posted:It means that Cherry profile keycaps will bang off the switch housing on your ASDF row. I literally just put some cherry profile row 2 caps on here and they don't do that though
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