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Koskun
Apr 20, 2004
I worship the ground NinjaPablo walks on
I wonder if the dual actuation point setup that Steelseries has on their Apex Pro will be next? Or would that even be something they could see? Maybe due to the speed of the inputs being sent?

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Mantle
May 15, 2004


This is dumb, the solution to binding mousewheel scroll to fire in beta5.2 or whatever wasn't to ban mice, it was to put a rate limiter on inputs. Valve should just fix their movement algo (never trust the client).

whalestory
Feb 9, 2004

hey ya'll!

Pillbug
just bought another Bridge75 (plus this time), because I really liked it. Going to use it in the office :negative:

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Mantle posted:

This is dumb, the solution to binding mousewheel scroll to fire in beta5.2 or whatever wasn't to ban mice, it was to put a rate limiter on inputs. Valve should just fix their movement algo (never trust the client).

snap tap produces valid inputs though? you can do what snap tap does with a normal keyboard, it's just vastly easier to do consistently with snap tap

to "fix" snap tap without detecting it specifically they would have to add more weight to everyone's movement and fundamentally change the feel of the game

repiv fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Aug 20, 2024

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007
Seems to me your priority is posting about how you're playing a game as opposed to you know playing the game. Like when I have a game I like I'm not here going "WELL ACTUALLY IT'S SUPER COOL THAT X DID Y (I'm fuzzy on the details of Wukong but as I recall you were here defending Hogwarts and supporting JK Rowling so fuck off garbage). Now you might go "Oh no I wasn't supporting JK Rowling I was just buying a video game that happened to give JK Rowling money and that's different because..."

edit: Don't feel rushed to respond I'm sure you're very busy playing Wukong or whatever.

I get it people have developed a pointless skill do not want to see it made irrelevant. For me though I like games to be about me versus my opponents, not so much me versus input devices. I would rather use the tool that makes it easiest to make my character do what I want the character to do.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


repiv posted:


to "fix" snap tap without detecting it specifically they would have to add more weight to everyone's movement and fundamentally change the feel of the game

Yeah that's what they should do. Arbitrarily banning people for fast inputs is a bad fix

Then again everyone who plays cs is obsessed with nothing changing or improving for 25 years, who am I kidding

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Taffer posted:

Yeah that's what they should do. Arbitrarily banning people for fast inputs is a bad fix

Then again everyone who plays cs is obsessed with nothing changing or improving for 25 years, who am I kidding

maybe cs is still popular because it's actually good and people like the way it feels

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




CS has changed quite a lot, it’s just that it’s a really dated format. 1.6 to Source, to GO are all pretty big revamps. The formula works, but the feel is different, even for me, someone who is legendarily bad at CS

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Hello mechanical keyboard enthusiasts. A while back I got provided a mechanical keyboard at work (it's a Logitech MX Mechanical) and now at home my generic whatever keyboard feels sad and spongy and I miss the clacky keyboards of my youth. I would like a mechanical keyboard that has these features:
  • ISO layout
  • 100% size (or more, but at least the standard 105 keys)
  • Wireless connectivity
  • Hotswappable
And ideally VIA compatible but I can compromise there. I'm really struggling to find something that fits the bill here, especially the first three together seems like a struggle. I'm happy to buy barebones and get caps and switches separately, or fully assembled. I don't have a strict price range in mind since I currently can't find anything at all, but if there's nothing under ~$300 I'll maybe just get a Logitech at home too and live with the less fun switches and keycaps because at least it has the right layout and no wire.

Any good suggestions? I live in Norway but with most niche tech stuff I have to order from abroad and eat the import duty, so I suppose any source with reasonable international shipping is OK.

e: Oh also I don't play FPS games so I don't much care about all the fancy features I keep seeing for those, and I'm not really into RGB backl
ights but it's fine if they're there as long as I can set them to something subdued.

big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Aug 23, 2024

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

big scary monsters posted:


[*] Wireless connectivity
[*] Hotswappable

Punch "Keychron" into an Amazon search and pick the one you want. Do not under any circumstances order it direct from Keychron, though.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
As far as I can tell with Keychron I can have either 100% and ISO or 100% and wireless but not all three.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
That might be true. Most Keychron boards have non-ISO layouts.

If so, you might be looking at paying a lot of money to get all three.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

qwertykeys QK100 almost fits the bill, it's 96% (has a full numpad but the layout is slightly squished) and it has a hotswap wireless ISO PCB option

unless you insist on the full traditional 100% layout

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004

1978 ~ 2023
The Keychron K10 is 100%, available in ISO and wireless via Bluetooth but if you want 2.4ghz and a little dongle I guess you might be SOL.

Also worth bearing in mind if something isn’t available in your country’s specific flavour of ISO you can always buy aftermarket keycaps.

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
I'm the resident keychron hater so have an epomaker recommendation instead.

https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-rt100?variant=46963421380916

You can also purchase it on their Amazon store as well. There's probably a redragon brand full size iso keyboard somewhere too on Amazon or aliexpress, but this is as much as I can provide while waiting for the bus to arrive. Feel free to poke around some more on epomaker for their ISO and full size selection. Epomaker also sells a usb dongle that turns any keyboard plugged into it into a qmk/vial compatible keyboard.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Thanks everyone, some good recommendations there. I must have missed the K10 Pro somehow, that does indeed have all the features I was looking for. Or maybe I could get a 9X% and live without the home and end keys... I suppose another possibility is to get a TKL model and a separate numpad, that seems a bit silly but it would open up a lot more options.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

History Comes Inside! posted:

The Keychron K10 is 100%, available in ISO and wireless via Bluetooth but if you want 2.4ghz and a little dongle I guess you might be SOL.

Also worth bearing in mind if something isn’t available in your country’s specific flavour of ISO you can always buy aftermarket keycaps.

How can changing keycaps make a an ANSI keyboard into ISO? The number of switches and the switch locations are different.

E: ah you meant from one ISO to another ISO

Mantle fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Aug 24, 2024

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

big scary monsters posted:

Thanks everyone, some good recommendations there. I must have missed the K10 Pro somehow, that does indeed have all the features I was looking for. Or maybe I could get a 9X% and live without the home and end keys...

Since there is via support and a fn key on board you could just map it to another layer. Fn + pg up = home etc.

HamburgerTownUSA
Aug 7, 2022

big scary monsters posted:

Thanks everyone, some good recommendations there. I must have missed the K10 Pro somehow, that does indeed have all the features I was looking for. Or maybe I could get a 9X% and live without the home and end keys... I suppose another possibility is to get a TKL model and a separate numpad, that seems a bit silly but it would open up a lot more options.

The benefits of a remappable keyboard is that you can shove poo poo in more convenient places that make sense to you.

For example, remapping Caps Lock to Fn made a lot of stuff more convenient because I can use a layer with my left hand while keeping my right hand on my mouse; activating Fn is just reaching over with my pinkie one key to the left, and I have ESDF as arrow keys on that function layer (as well as on IJKL) so I don't have to even reposition off home row. I have Home and End on W and R, and PgUp and PgDn on T and G, as well as mapping Num Enter to the spacebar.

I have a 65% keyboard only for aesthetics, because I almost never use the actual arrow keys or dedicated Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys because having it on the function layer is insanely more convenient to me. If it wasn't for that, I would just go back to using one of my 60s.

I very rarely use the actual Caps Lock either, so I have it remapped to what would normally be Right Ctrl, and then put in a gently caress-off heavy switch in that spot so there's no way to activate it on accident.

VIA is great since it makes it really easy to just move poo poo around.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



HamburgerTownUSA posted:

The benefits of a remappable keyboard is that you can shove poo poo in more convenient places that make sense to you.

Yeah I have a little 60% with no cursors (it has tap for them but that doesn’t work for me) so I remapped the right hand shift/ctrl/etc to them instead and put colored keycaps on them. The giant shift key as an Up arrow is kinda funny, it’s a shame the stabilizer kinda stops me from putting a normal size cap there without looking a bit stupid.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

big scary monsters posted:

I suppose another possibility is to get a TKL model and a separate numpad, that seems a bit silly but it would open up a lot more options.

That also has the convenient feature that you can move the mouse closer to your hands.

m.hache
Dec 1, 2004


Fun Shoe
So I keep seeing to not buy direct from Keychron but I can’t seem to find any barebones q6 Max or even one with Non reds on Amazon. I’m in Canada though so my stock is likely the problem.

No real issues buying a full prebuilt Q6 then swapping things around later I assume.

EDIT: https://a.co/d/5MR72RZ I just bought this. It'll give me enough options moving forward that I can swap out keycaps and switches.

m.hache fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Aug 24, 2024

m.hache
Dec 1, 2004


Fun Shoe
So the Q6 with Browns showed up today. Enjoying the feel overall but can't really get this via app to work. I can test the keys but aren't seeing anywhere to reprogram them.

I have it wired in and am using Chrome. The key tester shows up no issue but under the configure tab is just a dude rocking back and forth.

EDIT: Solved it. Just had to get the correct JSON file.

m.hache fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Aug 26, 2024

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION



Does anyone have any input on the Lofree Block? I like the retro styling and the multi-input/device options, as well as the windows/Mac switch in the back. I’ve honestly never heard of the brand before though and it doesn’t sound like they have the same amount of discussion/opinions as the likes of nuphy, keychron, etc.

Neurostorm
Sep 2, 2011

LionArcher posted:

Get a mode Loop. Directly from Mode.

Alright my Mode Loop came recently and wow this keyboard is amazing. By far the nicest I've ever used. Thanks thread for the suggestion, though whoever said it's gonna make me want more Mode keyboards was right.

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

Canned Sunshine posted:

Does anyone have any input on the Lofree Block? I like the retro styling and the multi-input/device options, as well as the windows/Mac switch in the back. I’ve honestly never heard of the brand before though and it doesn’t sound like they have the same amount of discussion/opinions as the likes of nuphy, keychron, etc.

Chinese company. They’ve been marketing mostly through kickstarter and YouTube reviewers. I have a low profile board of theirs. Build quality is decent. Config tools are proprietary so it’s not via, but they do have one for configuring their boards.

gnatalie
Jul 1, 2003

look alive in the strange world

Neurostorm posted:

Alright my Mode Loop came recently and wow this keyboard is amazing. By far the nicest I've ever used. Thanks thread for the suggestion, though whoever said it's gonna make me want more Mode keyboards was right.

mode keyboards are pretty neat! new sonnet arrived yesterday. poly top and copper everything:

edit: thanks forums for free image resize

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god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
Ooh, the transparent top is nice.

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION



Yiggy posted:

Chinese company. They’ve been marketing mostly through kickstarter and YouTube reviewers. I have a low profile board of theirs. Build quality is decent. Config tools are proprietary so it’s not via, but they do have one for configuring their boards.

Thanks for the response! I hadn’t heard of them before and so I wasn’t sure how reliable or such their keyboards are. I really like the look and features of the Block though.

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Neurostorm posted:

Alright my Mode Loop came recently and wow this keyboard is amazing. By far the nicest I've ever used. Thanks thread for the suggestion, though whoever said it's gonna make me want more Mode keyboards was right.

You're welcome. And yes. I have three mode keyboards. They are all endgames. I just need more endgames is the problem, so... more Modes it is :shepspends:

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale

gnatalie posted:

mode keyboards are pretty neat! new sonnet arrived yesterday. poly top and copper everything:

edit: thanks forums for free image resize



aaaauuuuugggghhhhhh

gnatalie
Jul 1, 2003

look alive in the strange world

Subjunctive posted:

aaaauuuuugggghhhhhh

seriously, pictures don't do it justice, side profile you can see the whole shebang it's soooo cool

LionArcher posted:

You're welcome. And yes. I have three mode keyboards. They are all endgames. I just need more endgames is the problem, so... more Modes it is :shepspends:

luckily i don't have a use for any of their other boards..yet.. averaged out i'm 3 months a board so uhhh this does not bode well

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


gnatalie posted:

seriously, pictures don't do it justice, side profile you can see the whole shebang it's soooo cool

luckily i don't have a use for any of their other boards..yet.. averaged out i'm 3 months a board so uhhh this does not bode well

I got a micro-pad (the rama 6c is great, but gently caress Rama, don't support them get it used or 3rd party) and now the world has opened up to 65%'s. So the Mode 65 is amazing as well. Otherwise, I need my function row, and I have two Mode Sonnet's, and they're both great. Though funny enough, I have a zoom 65 I'm using right now that I really like.

I kinda want a loop because they're cool, but honestly a new Sonnet (I love the new mounting system) and another 65 are the only boards I will realistically get in the next year. Unless of course the reverie is as amazing as it looks on Cannon Keys, or the Event Horizon get's released again, or a space 65 version 4.

I don't have a problem. I don't want to hear it.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




whats up thread, appreciate all the information i've gleaned so far. i decided to purchase myself a new keyboard after the work-issued cheapo logitech board developed a sticky backspace key and i kept losing lines of work. my thinking was, i could have had them buy me another one of those, or i could make an investment in my work tools and get a solid deck i can take with me when i leave. maybe they'll even agree to pay for it.

backstorywise, at home ive been using an old :corsair: k70 rgb for a long time now for gaming and browsing. i like the alumninum body, media keys/volume scroll, and attached wrist rest. i don't like that it's wired (via TWO USB ports, wtf), and the iCue software was absolute rear end and stopped working. it came with cherry mx red switches that are now stiff and loud af, so i am also looking to replace my home board.

after much research i decided to first try the keychron V6 Max with jupiter reds. the knob is something i want to hold onto, but trying the full size on my work desk felt like too much so ive now got a V3 Max, also with jupiter reds. im sticking with those switches for now as a reference point even though they feel way too soft for me. i like the 80% form factor a lot more regardless, and may stick with this for now (the V3 shipped without its 2.4 ghz dongle so a replacement is on its way).

i also have a monsgeek M1W v3 SP with akko piano v3 pros (only option) coming for home use, which should arrive later this week. i SHOULD have a 12x cherry switch tester by now but instead i received an empty bubble evelope, but im curious to see if i prefer linear switches like i think i do (albeit MUCH stiffer) or if the tactile is for me.

i doubt i'll soon get into full-building from scratch, but god drat there are some beautiful options out there.

death cob for cutie
Dec 30, 2006

dwarves won't delve no more
too much splatting down on Zot:4

gnatalie posted:

mode keyboards are pretty neat! new sonnet arrived yesterday. poly top and copper everything:

edit: thanks forums for free image resize



the transparent top plus copper is p. sick it's true

Opioid
Jul 3, 2008

<3 Blood Type ARRRRR
E: Nm gb is long over. Still a cool board anyways.

https://graystudio.club/products/gb-space82-blade-runner

Opioid fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Sep 1, 2024

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale

Opioid posted:

E: Nm gb is long over. Still a cool board anyways.

https://graystudio.club/products/gb-space82-blade-runner

man those colorways are amazing

Social Media
Jan 21, 2010

Does anyone know the spacebar and right shift sizes on the Epomaker x Leobog Hi75, or if there's a standard size for all 75% keyboards? I'm interested in getting a barebones kit for a relatively budget build. I believe those are the only non-standard keys that might not necessarily be covered by a typical 100+ key base set so it would be great to verify that a given set of keycaps is compatible before so I don't have to return anything.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale
ugh I’m cleaning my office and I found a shipment of keycaps that I never even opened, and which don’t work on my main keyboard

I guess I’m building a TKL or such

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YerDa Zabam
Aug 13, 2016



Social Media posted:

Does anyone know the spacebar and right shift sizes on the Epomaker x Leobog Hi75, or if there's a standard size for all 75% keyboards? I'm interested in getting a barebones kit for a relatively budget build. I believe those are the only non-standard keys that might not necessarily be covered by a typical 100+ key base set so it would be great to verify that a given set of keycaps is compatible before so I don't have to return anything.

Most keycap sets come with (at least) 6u, 6.25u and 7u space bars as well as multiple shift options 1.25u, 1.75u, 2.25u and 2.75u.
I've got GMK, PBT Fans and Akko at home so a spread of prices and they all have enough options for pretty much any keyboard layout, even the weird ISO/ANSI mongrel hybrid I like
At a glance that keyboard looks to have a 6.25u space bar and a 1.75u shift so pretty standard. You should be fine. What key cap sets are you looking at?



Talking of keycaps, I almost bought these yesterday. Well, I did buy them but had to cancel once I noticed they were above the import limit and would cost an extra 20%+ on top of the already absurd cost. loving brexit, ugh I hate it so much.
(and for more serious reasons that this I should add)

GMKs new MTNU profile, which is Cherry profile with an SA twist, but not too tall.

YerDa Zabam fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Sep 4, 2024

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