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teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

LionArcher posted:

It's also one of the Reasons I shy away from clears vs blues or browns. Harder impact on the fingers
For me I'd say Clears are less "impact" ... I don't bottom them out easily like blues or browns.

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chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

teethgrinder posted:

For me I'd say Clears are less "impact" ... I don't bottom them out easily like blues or browns.

Absolutely this. Browns I bottom out a lot more. If you look at the force curves for the two, the browns require about 55cN to actuate while the clears are at 65cN, so not massively more. There's a lot more difference after actuation, the browns only increase to 60cN through rest of the travel while the clears ramp up steeply to 100cN. For me that means I can type on them with just enough force to actuate but rarely bottom out. The extra resistance sort of cushions it. But I can't quite that get that right with browns and they bottom out a lot. It probably depends a lot in individual technique though.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008


I want a mechanical keyboard with switches that are specifically good for typing speed, and I want it to have macro buttons that are easily reached without having to move my whole drat hand away from the letter buttons. What is good out there? Bonus points for it being available on Amazon as I have some gift card money.

For reference, I have been using this thing for a decently long time, with black Cherry switches and black o-ring sound dampeners.



I am ready for a TKL or full size, I guess? I see lots of typing in my future right now.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

Finally got my Godspeed sets.

Kind of went crazy getting both the white and blue main sets so I could do this colour way. Going back to a full profile after the Danger Zone (which was all R3s I think) so it'll take me a few days to adjust but it looks pretty schmick.



I guess the Canvas set has been delayed again back to October, although the latest samples look pretty good so it'll probably turn out well. I think I'll have to get a second keyboard for that when that eventually comes out, I don't know the hell why. Stupid hobby.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



The Deadly Hume posted:

Finally got my Godspeed sets.

Kind of went crazy getting both the white and blue main sets so I could do this colour way. Going back to a full profile after the Danger Zone (which was all R3s I think) so it'll take me a few days to adjust but it looks pretty schmick.



I guess the Canvas set has been delayed again back to October, although the latest samples look pretty good so it'll probably turn out well. I think I'll have to get a second keyboard for that when that eventually comes out, I don't know the hell why. Stupid hobby.

That looks absolutely amazing.

What's the Canvas set?

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

RIP ZEEZ


drat those godspeed caps look amazing.

Is that a set you've got to wait for a group buy or Massdrop for?

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



foutre posted:


Is that a set you've got to wait for a group buy or Massdrop for?

Yup

qsvui
Aug 23, 2003
some crazy thing

The Deadly Hume posted:

Finally got my Godspeed sets.

Kind of went crazy getting both the white and blue main sets so I could do this colour way. Going back to a full profile after the Danger Zone (which was all R3s I think) so it'll take me a few days to adjust but it looks pretty schmick.



I guess the Canvas set has been delayed again back to October, although the latest samples look pretty good so it'll probably turn out well. I think I'll have to get a second keyboard for that when that eventually comes out, I don't know the hell why. Stupid hobby.

clean your keyboard sir

Megalixir
Nov 10, 2007

Vanillaware ltd.


My GMK Plum keyset arrived, so I put them on my Tada68.



The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.

qsvui posted:

clean your keyboard sir
I did

LochNessMonster posted:

That looks absolutely amazing.

What's the Canvas set?
https://mitormk.com/canvas-xda/

It had me at lower-case legends (an idea which I considered doing myself though WASD's slightly bodgy printing service) on dye-subbed PBT.
Again, production delays kept pushing out this one, although it's a completely new setup so most of that time has been about getting the samples right. Anyway it's looking like it's supposed to now and production has been greenlit. Should release in October .

https://mitormk.com/2017/07/08/mitos-updates-5/

Because of the delay MD have requested people opt back in (much like what happened with Godspeed), which is a no-brainer despite how long it's taken.

The Deadly Hume fucked around with this message at Jul 9, 2017 around 00:32

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty



The Deadly Hume posted:

I did

https://mitormk.com/canvas-xda/

It had me at lower-case legends (an idea which I considered doing myself though WASD's slightly bodgy printing service) on dye-subbed PBT.
Again, production delays kept pushing out this one, although it's a completely new setup so most of that time has been about getting the samples right. Anyway it's looking like it's supposed to now and production has been greenlit. Should release in October .

https://mitormk.com/2017/07/08/mitos-updates-5/

Because of the delay MD have requested people opt back in (much like what happened with Godspeed), which is a no-brainer despite how long it's taken.

That is indeed another beautiful set. I really need to keep track of new sets better.

Still regretting not signing up for dancer/prancer.

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000



"News" or rather promotional material making the rounds today is for a Model F keyboard remake.

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


dat forehead

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

She's a sharkmouth clam
beware
she is


Neanderthal of keyboards

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

Look at that R5-head

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Improvement makes straight roads; but the crooked roads without improvement are roads of genius.

I like how the enter key is moldy salmon pink.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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two new maxkey sets are filtering out of china:

maxkey ninja (black on black)


maxkey dolch

although i'm glad to see this show up (portland had flat greys versus these proper more brown tinted greys, in line with proper dolch), i have to point out that we're coming up on signature plastics having an arguably similar value for $25 more with it's less gaudy arrow keys and a bonus red esc key. signature plastics set is however offered in a dsa profile, so if you're after an sa set maxkey obviously pulls ahead. sp dsa dolch

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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top to bottom: portland, dolch, ashen

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.



MaxKey SA Miami Night is taking group buys now at geekhack as well.

http://imgur.com/a/SIJk5

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010



Constellation I posted:



MaxKey SA Miami Night is taking group buys now at geekhack as well.

http://imgur.com/a/SIJk5


Got an actual link? I'm curious though price wise I might be out

Weedle
May 31, 2006




Finally, you have no idea how long I've been looking for a set with three Page Down keys

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Improvement makes straight roads; but the crooked roads without improvement are roads of genius.

Constellation I posted:



MaxKey SA Miami Night is taking group buys now at geekhack as well.

http://imgur.com/a/SIJk5

drat, these things are beautiful. Kind of want a set.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

LionArcher posted:

Got an actual link? I'm curious though price wise I might be out

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90408.0

Item GB Price(USD)
Base Kit 80
Cyan Kit 10
Magenta Kit 10

Shipping
Estimate shipping cost for with 1 base : $20
Estimate shipping cost for small kits : $5~$20

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Weedle posted:

Finally, you have no idea how long I've been looking for a set with three Page Down keys

lol

maxkey is in the habit of over provisioning their kits so you have some critical keys in a couple different sizes and rows.

on mine i have insert/home/pgup in row 1 & delete/end/pgdown in row 2 installed, and i still have these spares:
- row 1 delete, end & pgdown
- row 3 pgup
- row 4 pgdown

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011
Running no point.

Constellation I posted:



MaxKey SA Miami Night is taking group buys now at geekhack as well.

http://imgur.com/a/SIJk5

I really like this. What is the keyboard?

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.

knox_harrington posted:

I really like this. What is the keyboard?

I think that's a ZZ96 so it's not quite readily available. I'd keep an eye out for any other 96-key layout keyboards.

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000




Home but no End?

Nondescript Van
May 2, 2007

Gats N Party Hats


well goddamnit now I have to buy that set so it goes with my normal miami set and my pending miami dolch set.

VostokProgram
Feb 20, 2014



Is there a basic, no-frills, tenkeyless mechanical keyboard that wouldn't look out of place in an office? I already have a CODE at home and I like it but I don't want to spend that much money on another one. Ideally something that won't sound annoying to my coworkers (but if it has to be loud they'd probably "get" it because they're also nerds)

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Constellation I posted:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90408.0

Item GB Price(USD)
Base Kit 80
Cyan Kit 10
Magenta Kit 10

Shipping
Estimate shipping cost for with 1 base : $20
Estimate shipping cost for small kits : $5~$20

i hope these make it because they're neat, but i wouldn't hold out too much hope for the modifiers

The Unlife Aquatic
Jun 17, 2009

Improvement makes straight roads; but the crooked roads without improvement are roads of genius.

VostokProgram posted:

Is there a basic, no-frills, tenkeyless mechanical keyboard that wouldn't look out of place in an office? I already have a CODE at home and I like it but I don't want to spend that much money on another one. Ideally something that won't sound annoying to my coworkers (but if it has to be loud they'd probably "get" it because they're also nerds)

A Ducky One is 90 bucks. Is that cheap enough?

The keycaps are a bit eh but they'd work until you decided you absolutely need some doubleshot PBT (a decent set is 30-40 bucks) keycaps.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Constellation I posted:

I think that's a ZZ96 so it's not quite readily available. I'd keep an eye out for any other 96-key layout keyboards.

the rs96 and variants pop up once in a while, but generally the whole 96 key game is aimed at people who want to diy their boards


VostokProgram posted:

Is there a basic, no-frills, tenkeyless mechanical keyboard that wouldn't look out of place in an office? I already have a CODE at home and I like it but I don't want to spend that much money on another one. Ideally something that won't sound annoying to my coworkers (but if it has to be loud they'd probably "get" it because they're also nerds)

kbp has a fair amount of switch/form/caps combos:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...duct_list&c=182

you should be getting cherry switches & tai-hao caps in most cases, so for ~$100 it's a nice price/quality midrange

otherwise, the usual big box office supply shops should stock thermaltake/rosewill/logitech/corsair so you can keep an eye out for sales if you're not in a hurry

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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signalnoise posted:

I want a mechanical keyboard with switches that are specifically good for typing speed, and I want it to have macro buttons that are easily reached without having to move my whole drat hand away from the letter buttons. What is good out there? Bonus points for it being available on Amazon as I have some gift card money.

For reference, I have been using this thing for a decently long time, with black Cherry switches and black o-ring sound dampeners.



I am ready for a TKL or full size, I guess? I see lots of typing in my future right now.

look into the pok3r series, it's another 60% board but with a competent layer & macro setup

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

The Unlife Aquatic posted:

A Ducky One is 90 bucks. Is that cheap enough?

The keycaps are a bit eh but they'd work until you decided you absolutely need some doubleshot PBT (a decent set is 30-40 bucks) keycaps.

Is there a diifference between PBT and doubleshot PBT, or is it just lazy copy writing?

Weedle
May 31, 2006



NTRabbit posted:

Is there a diifference between PBT and doubleshot PBT, or is it just lazy copy writing?

Double-shot is one method of adding the legends to the keycaps; it essentially means the legends are molded right into the keycaps as part of the molding process. Other options are dye-sublimated, in which ink is injected into the plastic, and pad-printed (what that Ducky has), in which the legends are essentially stamped onto the top of the key. Pad-printed is the least durable; dye-sub and double-shot are pretty much permanent.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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for side prints it's not all that important, since you're not poking the legends constantly, but even so it adds a bit of extra material to the key so it's even heavier/stiffer, which is nice

VostokProgram
Feb 20, 2014



The Unlife Aquatic posted:

A Ducky One is 90 bucks. Is that cheap enough?

The keycaps are a bit eh but they'd work until you decided you absolutely need some doubleshot PBT (a decent set is 30-40 bucks) keycaps.



surebet posted:

the rs96 and variants pop up once in a while, but generally the whole 96 key game is aimed at people who want to diy their boards


kbp has a fair amount of switch/form/caps combos:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/sho...duct_list&c=182

you should be getting cherry switches & tai-hao caps in most cases, so for ~$100 it's a nice price/quality midrange

otherwise, the usual big box office supply shops should stock thermaltake/rosewill/logitech/corsair so you can keep an eye out for sales if you're not in a hurry

Thanks both of you! I actually have a set of pbt doubleshot caps lying around, so what the board comes with doesn't matter. Unfortunately $90 is more than I want to spend, I was hoping for some $50-$60 options. I did find a $80 cooler master keyboard on Newegg at least

Deviantfish
Jun 25, 2006

P L E A S E
D O N ' T


Grimey Drawer

surebet posted:

two new maxkey sets are filtering out of china:

maxkey ninja (black on black)


maxkey dolch

although i'm glad to see this show up (portland had flat greys versus these proper more brown tinted greys, in line with proper dolch), i have to point out that we're coming up on signature plastics having an arguably similar value for $25 more with it's less gaudy arrow keys and a bonus red esc key. signature plastics set is however offered in a dsa profile, so if you're after an sa set maxkey obviously pulls ahead. sp dsa dolch

Yeah I'm getting really excited over maxkeys fixing SP's horrible lead times. I might have to go in on Dolch even though I have Portland already...

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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VostokProgram posted:

Thanks both of you! I actually have a set of pbt doubleshot caps lying around, so what the board comes with doesn't matter. Unfortunately $90 is more than I want to spend, I was hoping for some $50-$60 options. I did find a $80 cooler master keyboard on Newegg at least

well, one last stab at this if you already have caps: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index....lt/?q=barebones

wasd and code boards are functionally and visually the same (minus backlighting on the wasd), so if you really enjoy your code, you could spend a bit more than expected and have something you know does the job and looks good.

otherwise, around the $60 point you could look into magiforce's stuff; the 68 is a favorite for budget builds and the 108 is new but looking promising.

do carefully read the listings if purchasing these, as they come in all switch makes & weights, you really want to stick to gateron or cherry. the cheaper 68s are going to have the most bargain bin, no qc garbage switches in them (ie older kailh or outemu).

for my money, i'd go with a naked wasd and not look back.

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signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008


surebet posted:

look into the pok3r series, it's another 60% board but with a competent layer & macro setup

I have a KBT Race somewhere, and the problem I had with that (and I assume I would have it with the pok3r if it's the same) is that it has a really steep incline. I could definitely stand to get a bigger keyboard these days, I just want it to be as low-incline as possible. Unfortunately, incline is not something any keyboard website allows you to search by.

So 2 questions I guess.

1- Is there a decent non-60% with a low incline? I'm using a Ducky Shine Mini right now, I doubt it'll be easy to beat, but I would like something similar.

2- What have you guys found to be the contributing factors in a keyboard when it comes to sheer typing speed?

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