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NTRabbit posted:Does it ever show up for cheap on this Massdrop place? $150 yankee funbucks with an extra $49.90 for the cheapest shipping, or $258 dollarydoos all up, is a little bit beyond stretching my budget yes!  this was for a wasd version without keycaps; i'd argue heavily in favor of always going the capsless route if you can live without backlighting. the code keyboard is the same basic wasd but with backlighting, however i've yet to see the code be offered without caps. effectively, if you're going to ditch the caps, backlighting is going to cost you ~$40.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:I'd also love to add anyone's customized keyboard to the OP, with a little quote if you like. random media & info dump from other threads keycap profiles   signature plastics (in gorton modified sa) versus gmk (in oem cherry)   more cherry diagrams           if you want to rebuild a standard set, http://cherryamericas.com/product/mx-series-2/ my maxkey stuff               common layout differences http://www.maxkeyboard.com/mechanical-keycap-layout-and-size-chart.html http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/ some retailers to mention: https://shop.tai-hao.com/ https://www.massdrop.com/ http://pimpmykeyboard.com/keysets/ https://en.zfrontier.com/ http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard.html some random round 5/6 boards (not mine)              my standard five figgie travelling excel number cruncher setup w/ model m 
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teethgrinder posted:Holy expensive: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-zambumon-gmk-nautilus-custom-keycap-set massdrop 101: always check the break points, main sets always(ish) go for the lowest one $110 for a full (including base, mods, numpad & a shitload of redundancies) is a legit good price, if the design suits you for example: https://originative.co/products/hyperfuse-redux don't buy from originative, they're fucks
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also reminder that you can dip your toe in the world of aftermaket  massdrop - direct another new contender is jtk, which seems to be a cherry doubleshot clone, but i've no idea how good they are: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets all of these (including the gmk sets) are based on a cherry oem profile, with cherry style font. not my personal cup of tea (except that miami set i just have to grab one of these days), but they're solid caps. gmk is more expensive since you're getting a very low run, 100% custom colorway, versus say tai hao who does a fixed number of sets with just a few new things on their own schedule.
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dear keebthread, what's the current market looking like for budget minded topre? my sister's office needs to get to get a few new boards and while they enjoy the mechanical goodness their previous it guy bestowed upon them, but since their walls are apparently made out of old newspaper and tape, the higher pitched snapping of keys returning to battery is becoming an issue. looking for deeper, thumpier sounds via topre, but i'm not really familiar with their stuff
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Nondescript Van posted:well, if they like pink i have a miami set i've been meaning to sneak on someone's board while they're not looking
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NTRabbit posted:This 2016 model CODE fitted with 2015 Cherry Blues and 2017 PBT caps manages to achieve the same handfeel as a vintage IBM, for a fraction of the auction price. Certainly a kintner worth following the produce of in future.  chippy posted:What's the quality on the Tao Hao PBT caps like? Compared to Vortex, for example. Also, what is the "Nano anti-biosis Anti-Bacterial coating" (http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_30560.html)? Does it affect the feel of them, or start wearing off after or a while, or anything like that? tai hao is basically the "good enough" of the caps world; they're actual doubleshots without the signature plastics/gmk price tag, so just for that i like them. where i take issue is the modern legends, since i like my stuff vintage or at least vintage looking, preferably in an SA profile, but that may very well not be your case and that's just as fine. if the coating bothers you, have a look at this: https://imgur.com/a/FodAg your link is rather expensive, depending on where you live check out the following: https://shop.tai-hao.com/ https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ https://www.massdrop.com/mechanical-keyboards singe posted:So I know nothing about the keyboards. for the lightest of the light, check out mx speeds, which are basically an mx red with a shorter actuation point (1.2mm vs 2mm). both are 45g switches. you probably have some options in topre in 45g as well. i think i saw some 30g switches somewhere, but topre isn't my specialty. backup plan would be a complete tear down of a keyboard you like to replace whatever springs are in the switches with something lighter, but that's somewhat labor intensive.
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leper khan posted:I want to ruin my wallet with fancy colored caps for my µTron and HHKB Pro JP. https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Topre-to-MX-adapter-Topre-change-into-MX-switch/2230037_32748140639.html umph i prefer the original color mods, but one of my keeb regrets is passing on a cheap granite set last year. looks good!
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dirby posted:1. I have a relatively cheap Cherry Blue keyboard (probably this one). I already had got it replaced under warranty when the E key started dying, and now, much later, the T key doesn't work consistently. It's a problem with the switch itself. What can be done besides replacing the whole keyboard? Is there a way to open/clean/replace the switch under the T keycap? 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4U75kF1Jw it's doable, especially if you already have the gear, otherwise it would be a nice foray into this kind of stuff. 2: if you want the absolute most twitchy stuff, reds, or better yet, mx speed.
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dirby posted:Thanks! I don't actually have a soldering iron, but I'll either find someone who does or get one since they're apparently really cheap. like anything in life, don't go too cheap, but yeah you should be able to gear up for well below the cost of a replacement keyboard. Keep in mind you're aiming to work on a pcb, so don't borrow a 1970s radio shack hobby iron as it might be aimed at something bigger. the gadget used to pull the solder off the pcb is a solder sucker/vaccum. hopefully someone better at this than me can recommend specific items.
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leper khan posted:Thanks but that's too much topre stemmed caps do exist, but just like model m caps, they're somewhat few and far between http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access#toprekeys another option to consider: the realforce rgb board. it comes out of the box with mx stems, along with a few interesting gimmicks including key level rgb customization and key level actuation customization between 1.5mm, 2.2mm & 3mm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9G3jkxaQYs while it's been on my list of things to check out in person, i've yet to come across one so i can't vouch for it personally, but it seems well received by your fellow topre weirdos.
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Constellation I posted:I don't really know if there's much more to talk about when reviewing keyboards. There's nothing much else to be said with regards to switches since they're a known quantity and all the different switch types have been done to death and sound sampled / type tested to death. thought about this a bit, and i disagree. switches are a known quantity, that's true, however switch noises are largely dependent on keeb chassis construction. Constellation I posted:I guess for things to look out for and talk about are case build quality, materials, flex, etc. Next would be reviewing the stabilizers, what type they are, if they're rattly or if they feel mushy. all good points, especially the stabilizers, which no one ever really mentions and have a huge impact on how the larger keys sound/feel. Constellation I posted:Next would be the quality of the PCB if it's a bad soldering job / bad layout. don't agree here, both because it's probably above the technical level of the audience and also because unless we're talking about a hand built boards soldering will probably not be a significant issue and the layout itself is even more relative. pretty sure they added such details for the credibility-through-technical-wank factor. unless the intended audience is way more technical than i'm expecting, you're just biasing the review based on things that might sound important, but really aren't that much. a blurb about how the pcb is secured and the fitment of the internals could be interesting from a rattle/durability point of view. Constellation I posted:Next you can talk about is keycap quality and aesthetics, which relatively unknown manufacturers will definitely make bad decisions on. yes to all of this, and also known manufacturers make horrific design choices all the time too! Constellation I posted:Also pay attention to non-standard layouts I guess. yes! http://www.maxkeyboard.com/mechanical-keycap-layout-and-size-chart.html the one true layout, standard ansi, is the second one in that list. while some keycap manufacturers will provide extra keys to allow for some compatibility, it's neither a guarantee if it's not stated and you should still know if the extra caps are relevant to your special snowflake layout. Constellation I posted:Another thing to focus on is the programmability of the keyboard, how customizable it is, if there's issues with NKRO, 6KRO, etc. Next would be LED quality, then also if there is a requirement to use lovely software to handle programmability or LED profiles. My suggestion would be to go to the review forum section on deskthority and kind of base your review on what people focus and sometimes sperg on there. true usb nkro is rare (often splicing the output to two usb ports or using some kind of proprietary transfer protocol that requires special drivers), so pointing out what's nkro and what's nkro* could be interesting. programmability, both for macros and lighting, should only be blurbed unless the audience is expected to be highly technical. some very solid points overall, good job! i'd also add a few more mundane metrics like average reviews, msrp vs street price vs availability (good place to plug those referral links), other related choices to consider, warranty, etc
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:This hobby is a gaping maw made of artisan keycaps. stare into the abyss and remortgage your house 
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leper khan posted:How can it be an investment? There's effectively no intrinsic value. And nothing is preventing a supplier from flooding the market with replicas of "rare" caps. yes however http://www.ebay.com/itm/252489877984 http://www.ebay.com/itm/252508109002 http://www.ebay.com/itm/291436814456 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151687883770 https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/search?q=artisan&sort=new&restrict_sr=on
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evil_bunnY posted:I mean a cool escape cap is nice and all but $30 is just lmao lol https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36546.msg691654#msg691654
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yup, that rerun of the key showed up somewhere between 2009 & 2011 iirc and simply collapsed the speculative market around the original the is going to happen with those artisan caps, although for now the prices are keeping level in the $30-50 (and above, in some case well beyond) region per key because that's what the market (ie idiot nerds with money) is willing to pay for them. the current big replica seller (k3kc) basically sells his wares at ~$5 below the originals, and i'm sure they're making money hand over fist if only because they actually sell direct to the public, versus the artisan makers who mostly use this hilariously hosed up lottery or auction systems. that said, if you're willing to deal with taobao, you can source a bunch of these in the $5-10 range: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=550397515380&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail before anyone asks, taobao is the chinese equivalent of amazon, kinda, and while anyone can open an account on it you won't be able to fund it through non-chinese banks or credit cards, aka you need to be physically present over there to do it. your best bet is either to go what's called a taobao agent (a third party reshipper, and no i don't have a recommendation on which one to use) or contact the seller directly and loving pray that 1) they speak functional english, 2) they accept paypal or something, & 3) they don't just take your cash and tell you to pound sand, because the transaction will be 100% outside of taobao's rating system. if all goes well, you can still expect the usual 30-90 day order cycle à la dx.com or aliexpress.com. odds are you'll be fine doing a small purchase, but go through an agent for anything significant, because if the seller intends on robbing you, they will try to string you along beyond paypal's refund window. for the love of god don't send money as "send money as gift" or whatever it's called these days, that basically neuters any chargeback options. be ready to offer to cover the fees (~35¢ + 2.9%) to shut them up about accepting money through the other option.
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underage at the vape shop posted:Is it possible to get a nice, cheap white key set for my masterkey L? Going by the last couple pages, looks like no? kinda depends what cheap means to you, but of course you can! for zero dollars (but admittedly a fair chunk of time) you can do this, which is on my to-do list one of these days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzoZ7rG0x0c the same exists as an off the shelf product, but @$80 it might be breaking the cheap requirement: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/custom-white-translucent-top-backlight-keycap-set-blank.html you can drop down in the ~$40 price point via unknown sellers/brands, but be aware that these are probably budget side printed caps someone sanded down: https://www.banggood.com/104-Key-OEM-Profile-Side-Printed-Translucent-Top-All-Light-transmitting-ABS-Keycaps-p-1160289.html max does have a cheaper alternative with either clear or smoke caps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz6y7DhcMUM (shown in smoke) smoke, blank: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-universal-cherry-mx-black-translucent-full-keycap-set-blank.html smoke, top print: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-universal-cherry-mx-black-translucent-full-keycap-set-top-print.html smoke, side print: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-universal-cherry-mx-black-translucent-full-keycap-set-front-side-print.html clear, blank: http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-universal-cherry-mx-clear-translucent-full-keycap-set-blank.html although not available in smoke (but available in other colors), signature plastics offers a nice alternative to max' keys in the same price range, but in a dcs profile for a more sculpted layout versus max' near flat one. click here for more info on key profiles http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-translucent-keycap-sets/ otherwise as mentioned vortex is an option: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1330 (while white, the pbt is thick enough to prevent the backlight from showing except through the legends) if price is 100% the decision factor, check this  set out:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-shot...jwAAOSwSypY~Zsr worth noting, i pulled random links for most of these, so if you shop around you can probably get a deal
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the worst case scenario is that you'll have to spend some money and an afternoon replacing all the switches on your board. like unless the box contains a swarm of angry bees or something, that's pretty much the worst case scenario; bit more money, some time. hopefully, the people building the keyboards will effectively add another layer of qc on the switches too. i wouldn't worry to much about it, especially since you didn't purchase this off of a random chinese site either
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chippy posted:You could make some out of Sugru (https://sugru.com/)? echoing the warning about raising your keyboard, catching an rsi is not a good thing you could use pretty much anything rubber to raise it while keeping it in place
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two new maxkey sets are filtering out of china: maxkey ninja (black on black)  maxkey dolch  although i'm glad to see this show up (portland had flat greys versus these proper more brown tinted greys, in line with proper dolch), i have to point out that we're coming up on signature plastics having an arguably similar value for $25 more with it's less gaudy arrow keys and a bonus red esc key. signature plastics set is however offered in a dsa profile, so if you're after an sa set maxkey obviously pulls ahead. sp dsa dolch
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Weedle posted:Finally, you have no idea how long I've been looking for a set with three Page Down keys lol maxkey is in the habit of over provisioning their kits so you have some critical keys in a couple different sizes and rows. on mine i have insert/home/pgup in row 1 & delete/end/pgdown in row 2 installed, and i still have these spares: - row 1 delete, end & pgdown - row 3 pgup - row 4 pgdown
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Constellation I posted:https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90408.0 i hope these make it because they're neat, but i wouldn't hold out too much hope for the modifiers
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Constellation I posted:I think that's a ZZ96 so it's not quite readily available. I'd keep an eye out for any other 96-key layout keyboards. the rs96 and variants pop up once in a while, but generally the whole 96 key game is aimed at people who want to diy their boards VostokProgram posted:Is there a basic, no-frills, tenkeyless mechanical keyboard that wouldn't look out of place in an office? I already have a CODE at home and I like it but I don't want to spend that much money on another one. Ideally something that won't sound annoying to my coworkers (but if it has to be loud they'd probably "get" it because they're also nerds) kbp has a fair amount of switch/form/caps combos: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=182 you should be getting cherry switches & tai-hao caps in most cases, so for ~$100 it's a nice price/quality midrange otherwise, the usual big box office supply shops should stock thermaltake/rosewill/logitech/corsair so you can keep an eye out for sales if you're not in a hurry
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signalnoise posted:I want a mechanical keyboard with switches that are specifically good for typing speed, and I want it to have macro buttons that are easily reached without having to move my whole drat hand away from the letter buttons. What is good out there? Bonus points for it being available on Amazon as I have some gift card money. look into the pok3r series, it's another 60% board but with a competent layer & macro setup
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for side prints it's not all that important, since you're not poking the legends constantly, but even so it adds a bit of extra material to the key so it's even heavier/stiffer, which is nice
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VostokProgram posted:Thanks both of you! I actually have a set of pbt doubleshot caps lying around, so what the board comes with doesn't matter. Unfortunately $90 is more than I want to spend, I was hoping for some $50-$60 options. I did find a $80 cooler master keyboard on Newegg at least well, one last stab at this if you already have caps: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=barebones wasd and code boards are functionally and visually the same (minus backlighting on the wasd), so if you really enjoy your code, you could spend a bit more than expected and have something you know does the job and looks good. otherwise, around the $60 point you could look into magiforce's stuff; the 68 is a favorite for budget builds and the 108 is new but looking promising. do carefully read the listings if purchasing these, as they come in all switch makes & weights, you really want to stick to gateron or cherry. the cheaper 68s are going to have the most bargain bin, no qc garbage switches in them (ie older kailh or outemu). for my money, i'd go with a naked wasd and not look back.
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signalnoise posted:I have a KBT Race somewhere, and the problem I had with that (and I assume I would have it with the pok3r if it's the same) is that it has a really steep incline. I could definitely stand to get a bigger keyboard these days, I just want it to be as low-incline as possible. Unfortunately, incline is not something any keyboard website allows you to search by. pok3r side view:  slap some dsa caps on there and you're looking pretty flat w/ a slight angle. you could wedge something below the front lip to bring it all the way to zero degrees, but make sure you have a matched wrist rest cause that would be a weird setup
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not an ergodox owner, but i think dsa would be best suited
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ok matching the volume keys to quiet catte & loud catte is just about the most adorable thing i've seen all summer, that's some good stuff
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Slurps Mad Rips posted:My first Topre arrived today and I've been messing with it for a bit. It's a JIS91 layout. The layout is really loving with my muscle memory, but one of the nice things is having what is effectively a dedicated ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ key shortcut, which is good for getting that sweet sweet ＶＡＰＯＲＷＡＶＥ street cred I've heard all the kids talking about.  Slurps Mad Rips posted:In all seriousness, I could see myself using a Topre at work, but it is way too light a touch for me and my current daily driver (which is just a CODE with SA profile caps). just bring them to work and plug them all in. don't explain why.
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sorry for being away keeb thread, it's been a weird weekUltimate Mango posted:I think several of us have Code keyboards and like them. this is a correct opinion. if you want to save a few bucks, especially if you intend on barbie'ing up your keyboard with fancy keycaps, you should also look into a barebones wasd which is for all intents and purposes the same thing as a code (same vendor, no backlighting, trivial hardware differences other than that): http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard/wasd-v2-104-key-barebones-mechanical-keyboard-991.html teethgrinder posted:Clears feel great and are socially acceptable. this is also a correct opinion. i love me some crazy loud keyboards, but be aware that you're inviting physical harm into your life if you bring anything with blues at the office. having a nice keyboard is cool, but please consider your colleagues (or significant other at home) before buying something that'll be used around others. working while hearing 200+ clicks a minute is not cool. redeyes posted:come on now, clears can't be THAT much better than browns maybe i'm a heavy typer, but i can't feel a difference between browns and reds. the heavier springs in clears provide a much more pleasant key resistance (aka i don't bottom out constantly) and i actually feel the tactile bump in them. my first choice remains buckling springs, but clears are a close second. FAT32 SHAMER posted:everyone in my office uses blues but we also all have headphones in to listen to twitch if you work in an open floor plan office, yeah, everyone is kinda forced to wear headphones by default. however, as the often only finance/accounting/devops dude in a team of devs, i spent a fair amount of time on the phone. people i worked with usually tried to not be dicks about this and keep quiet when i was on a call, but if everyone ran blues it would still sound like a god damned steno pool. there was a place i worked at that was basically that, and having to go out in the hallway every time i had to take a call (often hour-long, critical calls about financing or gov't relations) was a pain in the dick. i guess what i'm saying is check with your coworkers and don't assume you can bring anything. LionArcher posted:Or people who have a private office i've had my fair share of offices with doors, problem is a lot of offices have walls made out of crumpled newspaper and a layer of paint, so it's not impossible the sound will spill. blues should be good if you have a door, but be aware that you'll have to keep the door closed 24/7. blugu64 posted:I use a model m in the office one of my model m boards is a lexmark rubber dome version; legit a nice dome with crisp, snappy keys (although nothing like an actual buckling spring). the space bar pings like a motherfucker, but apart from that it's quiet enough for the average office. They're fairly cheaper too, if you want to give one a chance look for p/n 7*G**** (mine is 71G4644) The Unlife Aquatic posted:How often do you have to beat back angry coworkers with your keyboard? no joke, half the people who will pick up one of my m boards will comment something to the effect of "wow, you could beat someone with this"
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yeah beam springs with the solenoid on are hilariously loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRH1ULmbNA&t=6m41s (time stamped at the sound comparison, but the whole thing is worth a watch) technically the loudest keybards ever are selectric (ibm's flagship typewriter) based: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H92dJbp-KNM the mag cards are specialized magnetic punch card writers, but before beam spings (the og keyboards) ibm converted selectrics as terminal entry devices so you could argue they're proper keyboards
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namaste faggots posted:Anyone got some cool anchor keys? like a boat anchor? nantucket selectric came to mind, but apparently they don't have anchors, not that you could buy it anyway. maybe ask this dude for a quote: https://www.etsy.com/shop/DecentKeyboards he does a lot of the model m custom keycaps out there, but i think back when he and matt3o (of granite keycap fame) were starting out their respective projects i know he had dsa molds, not sure what he has on hand these days.
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foutre posted:Wasd has white backlighting I think; if you're ok without RGB it's great. wasd has no backlighting, you're thinking of the extremely similar code keyboard, also sold by wasd
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