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Dreylad posted:these people are so loving stupid it's astounding. obviously they're incentivized to think this way and argue this but holy poo poo all they have to do is keep tossing some scraps to poor people and pay them and you can stave off people wanting to line you and your extended family against a wall and shooting them all and keep your lovely-rear end consumer-gig economy going by keeping money cycling from consumers to producers. In their minds, being a politician is just a type of skilled profession. As a result, they view things like this as the equivalent of "giving bribes to an employer in order to get them to hire you" (where the public is "hiring" a politician) and that giving people things will make someone get hired because of the bribes rather than their "experience/expertise" (therefore resulting in politicians who aren't skilled and do the job wrong). Basically, they don't consider "changing the country" to be a purpose of government. They believe that government should just "manage the country" and view it like being an accountant or something, where there's an objectively correct way to do it, and if you get someone with the right skills/resume they'll "do it correctly." But if you bribe the public (the "employer") you'll get some bozo like Bernie Sanders who didn't event pass his first actuarial exam and will make the government go out of business.
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Ytlaya posted:In their minds, being a politician is just a type of skilled profession. As a result, they view things like this as the equivalent of "giving bribes to an employer in order to get them to hire you" (where the public is "hiring" a politician) and that giving people things will make someone get hired because of the bribes rather than their "experience/expertise" (therefore resulting in politicians who aren't skilled and do the job wrong). Admittedly, Yglesias was pretty open in why this is so, it is about power (which he is obviously cool with). The population's purpose is to serve and now we need to spawn more overlords to win the game. It is as simple as that. It is just about winning, nothing else. American "always" won before and therefore doesn't to seriously reform...so all that is thats left is just to pump out more cannon fodder to victory. Politicians are just engineers keeping the train on schedule.
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British journalism. This guy gets paid half a million a year https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1307933784776601600?s=19
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Lol https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1307936536361603072?s=19
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His head is shaped uncannily like an egg. Like a literal egg, not in the sense of the term "egghead." You could pretty much overlap one with the image perfectly.
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Matty knows what he's doing 
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article245817900.html Whoops, we've been including this racist periodical in our newspaper for the past year. Sorry about that, not sure how it happened!
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lol how many twitter lefties making GBS threads on Ygelsias (correctly) defend Greenwald on Tucker
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Ex voxer calls out co founder of vox. LMAO
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zegermans posted:lol how many twitter lefties making GBS threads on Ygelsias (correctly) defend Greenwald on Tucker stfu zegermans
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 They just cooperate with Trump, they are more excited than he is about him saying he will announce a pick on a certain day. Everyone get your live blogs and reaction pods ready. This whole week is going to be nonstop coverage of hanging on Trump's every word, just as he intends. The mystery and suspense! Subscribe now, the NYT has the best high level insider sources of them all. They have learned absolutely nothing in five years of covering this shithead.
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Pryor on Fire posted:
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bloo bloo bloo they didn't waste enough ink eulogizing an enormous piece of poo poo
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at least he's consistent, as he was one of the lead guys wanting to cancel Greenwald for going on Tucker Carlson (also i remember Maza posting about how his family's quite literally tech billionaires)
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Tbf glenn told him to stop complaining when crowder doxxed him so some animosity is understanable.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm sure Matt Yglesias will get flak for going on Glenn Beck as much as Glenn Greenwald does for going on Tucker Carlson the difference is Glenn is good in other ways and Matt is not
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Granted, how much of what is going on just that the America media (even the "new media" like Vice/Vox) have moved so far on the right especially on geopolitical terms that there isn't any daylight between them and a guy like Beck at this point?
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good time to revisit this timeless slate article
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quote:Over at the Atlantic, professor Garrett Epps has just written in defense of Ginsburg. You should read the whole piece, but two important points he makes are worth repeating: Ginsburg plays a crucially important role in the Roberts Court as the senior justice on the liberal bloc, not just in terms of assigning opinions but in terms of writing them. If anything, Ginsburg has been stronger in recent years than ever and has been a crisper, more urgent voice for women’s rights, minority rights, affirmative action, and the dignity of those who often go unseen at the high court than ever before. She has gone from rarely reading her dissents from the bench to doing so with great frequency, calling out the majority for what she sees as grave injustices and proving that her voice is both fiery and indispensible. Telling her that her work is awesome, but it’s time to move on is tantamount to saying that a liberal is a liberal and that Ginsburg brings nothing to the table that another Obama appointee will not replicate. That analysis suffers from exactly the same realpolitik flaw Ginsburg’s critics ascribe to her: that counting to four, or five, is more important that the justice herself. Ginsburg, like Antonin Scalia, is writing those dissents for law students, for the case books, and for Congress. Not all justices are created equal in that regard. lol writing a spicy dissent that students can cite is more important than the vulgar realpolitik of actually accomplishing something.
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This is insane:quote:Reproductive rights advocate and writer Jessica Mason Pieklo suggests that it’s not the legacy of Roe we should be obsessing about anyhow, but rather why it is that Democrats can’t seat progressives no matter which party is in power. I agree. I’m not naive enough to suppose that a bird in the hand is always the answer, but the fact that President Obama can’t get a civil rights lawyer confirmed to a civil rights position in this political climate or seat a surgeon general who believes gun deaths are connected to public health tells me that the argument that he could easily confirm a Ginsburg 2.0 is naive as well. Ginsburg herself often says that the chances of another Ginsburg being confirmed to the court today are negligible. Obama seated at least one justice far more progressive than her. Does everyone writing about politics have loving Memento disease?
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Groovelord Neato posted:This is insane: to be fair the article is from 2014, IIRC dems didn't have the votes back then she should've retired back in 2010 or whenever
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Doctor Jeep posted:to be fair the article is from 2014, IIRC dems didn't have the votes back then They had the votes to replace her if they abolished the filibuster like they had for every other position. They lost control of the senate in the 2014 elections.
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also neither sotomayor nor kagan were approved with the democrats having 60 votes. both of them had enough republicans voting yes to have 60 votes. they probably would have done the same with a ginsburg replacement because just like those two and unlike scalia dying it wouldn't have changed the 5-4 split
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Ardennes posted:Granted, how much of what is going on just that the America media (even the "new media" like Vice/Vox) have moved so far on the right especially on geopolitical terms that there isn't any daylight between them and a guy like Beck at this point? to be fair fox news was contemporaneously more warhawkish than npr at the time except for like tucker
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:lol writing a spicy dissent that students can cite is more important than the vulgar realpolitik of actually accomplishing something. In that case we should judge RBG even more harshly for her atrocious record on indigenous rights.
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Groovelord Neato posted:loving Memento disease? i love Oh Hello
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lol the egg followed up going on glenn beck's show by going on ben shapiro's. he's really gone full fascist during quarantine
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Jose posted:lol the egg followed up going on glenn beck's show by going on ben shapiro's. he's really gone full fascist during quarantine https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1307850692837683202 You know Matty boy just isn't of the same caliber because he actually has to explain himself going on Beck and Shapiro
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1307850692837683202
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i like how glenn greenwald is basically considered hitler junior for going on tuckers show and forcing us to remember sometimes that tucker has the biggest cable news platform in the country but iglesias has come up with an opinion so nutters even fox news wont take him in and he has to promote it with the help of people who sucked so bad they got kicked out of major media networks and are desperately trying to legitimize themselves back into them
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yeah but all the mass shooters who watch ben shapiro are going to have to sit down and really think if they want to put a small dent in the One Billion Americans now
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Ginsburg can be replaced by a stick attached to Sotomayor's hand that hits Ginsburg's vote button the same time she hits hers
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zegermans posted:Ginsburg can be replaced by a stick attached to Sotomayor's hand that hits Ginsburg's vote button the same time she hits hers that would actually be an improvement on Ginsburg's voting record
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gradenko_2000 posted:that would actually be an improvement on Ginsburg's voting record RIGHT?! It owns that one of Ginsburg's last decisions was her 8-1 concurrence that Trump rescinding DACA wasn't motivated by racism.
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I hate Matty because it'd rule to get on Shapiro's show and poo poo on him like Rutger Bregman did to Carlson to the point Carlson melted down and didn't air the segment.
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dc journalists have to be the worst worms in the industry https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1308381267734532098?s=21
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they have to live in dc and get really mad when reminded that the food in richmond and baltimore is better
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It's the exact same problem with financial journalism. Even the "woke lefty" journos like Andrew Ross Sorkin or whoever else just spend all day every day getting mimosas in Manhattan with the billionaires they are supposedly covering. If you don't play the game and be nice to everyone you get zero access and are not allowed to progress in your career. They are all complicit.
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