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Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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Actually bigots are the real victims of society :qqsay:

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Zedhe Khoja
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Asking the tough questions
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/08/world/middleeast/isis-prisoners-children-women.html

Zedhe Khoja
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I was going through the NYT archives for school and decided I'd like to present a tribute to 170 years of fantastic and consistent foreign policy journalism:


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It's a direct quote of somebody from the D&D venezuela thread, which is probably the closest thing to succdem Hell there is.
I wish :toxx: challenges were still a thing so I could challenge DV to show a single time NYT has ever not been poo poo on foreign policy reporting. But I feel ppj would just ban me for trying.

Zedhe Khoja
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Lol somebody got paid more than I ever will to write that jesus christ.
I thought that was just a succthread special. The reality is so much worse/better

Zedhe Khoja
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I thought that rahm poo poo was one of those SA specials like the giant Obama copypasta. holy poo poo it’s a real thing and I don’t think all the beer in the world would blunt the existential horror of this being our “left” for a generation+


wings witSams or a ropa vieja with shicktop?

Zedhe Khoja
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Because his russian handlers told him not to.
Can't wait for this Tucker Carlson loving fascist Asadist to get the loving he deserves in prison. :smuggo:

Zedhe Khoja
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So what's the big difference between going on Tucker Carlson vs say....MSNBC. The only difference I can see really at this point is that MSNBC will never in a million years give airtime to the left or anti-imperialism. Greenwald goes on Fox for the same reason Wolfe does.

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CharlestheHammer posted:

because Wolfe is really dumb? like being happy Greenwood is having this happen because he is friends with white supremest is really dumb but let’s not get into the dumb rationalization game

So you're okay with the media blacklisting leftists, and any attempt to get around that means that you're a fascist. K.

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Panzeh posted:

Hmm yes capitalist media being unfriendly, shocker. The best way to get around it is to go help Tucker sell his fascism.

Especially when you know the poo poo he wrote about immigrants a while ago.

What did Greenwald write about immigrants?

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CharlestheHammer posted:

I mean I’m not even asking you to cancel greenwald, it’s okay to like him and admit he makes bad decisions sometimes

He makes bad decisions. But I don't think him going on Tucker Carlson's show is a bad decision. Leftists have no realistic reason to let three of the four media companies who run everything blot out leftism entirely just because they run a tighter ideological ship than Fox. If the platform is popular, you get your message on it if you can. Whether that's lovely goverment news like RT, or garbage like FOX.

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Cooperating with fash: speaking on Tucker Carlson.
Not cooperating with fash: reminiscing about how you eiffel towered a bleeding out 13 year old Sara girl with Hissene Habra, while scolding AOC for being rude about concentration camps.

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Zedhe Khoja
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Listen, our CIA spooks are heroes, and if our good leftist media can fill it's entire line up with spooks and neocons we're lucky to have them. You really gonna criticize them for helping a US ally fight Gaddafi? Are you? You fascist filth, you have no idea how necessary killing all those commie riverdwelling savages really was. It took a strong manly man to impotently yell "hey no nukes" across the sahara.

Zedhe Khoja
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Now let me tell you about the most fascist man on televesion.
The dude who spoke on an exradio-man's show. But the radioman likes the bad cheeto. The absolute worst thing that could ever exist.
No. I don't have stupid tribalistic priorities.

Zedhe Khoja
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Sometimes walking down the street or riding the Metrobus in Mecidiyekoy, thinking about bringing home some flowers or something for my girl. And then I think about the CIA and MSNBC and get real fuckin mad.

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It's amazing how an entire society of Wall-E people feel comfortable stealing valor from any and all things that happened 20-30 years before they were born.

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Was Tiberius the one that deified the kid he was loving?

e: Nah Hadrian. A dig i was at once found a votive offering that we're pretty sure was for Antinous once.

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Victory Position posted:

I'm just here to laugh at this dork referencing noted bullshit artist and weiner Niall Ferguson
Ferguson has actual historical chops compared to America's resident shithead rightwing "historian".

NYT Article Headline in 2023 posted:

The great historian, Victor Davis Hanson, claims that Presidential Candidate Crenshaw is the modern Alcibiades.

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Barry Convex posted:

this lady worked for nine years at a US propaganda outlet and her dad was the Shah's ambassador to Israel

https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1198620074451591169

I pray for the day the last loving Pahlavi supporter kicks the bucket just so I never have to read about them ever again.

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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

Is Cenk a russiagate pushing liberal?

He occupies a spot I'd say halfway between Bernie and Warren. Not a socialist, but extremely sincere in wanting Socdem policies.

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Dreylad posted:

All I've heard is that Turkey doesn't really have public healthcare so there's similar problems as the US where people might not seek treatment/testing soon.

But they're careening towards doubling every day, way ahead of any other country on the planet, although as always corona cases depend on testing, which means they may just be catching up.

Turkey has alot more public care than America, and their private care is pretty cheap. Most of the people I associate with aren't particularly wealthy and no ones ever balked at the idea of going to the hospital for even minor problems here. It's more that the government has just been lying it's rear end off and will throw in jail any journalist who calls them out on it.

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Shear Modulus posted:

the turkish government is obviously full of poo poo that their first case was in mid march

I almost certainly caught it back in February.

Zedhe Khoja
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the genocidal new york times

https://twitter.com/TheWarNerd/status/1260270984407515136

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Groovelord Neato posted:

I would've included that guy defending Israeli snipers murdering protestors.

which one there was a bunch

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an actual dog posted:

Larry Kramer was right about the nyt forty years ago and the first people hear about his death is this poo poo. petty revenge by the worst people on earth

What did he say about the nyt?

Zedhe Khoja
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God gently caress America and the NYT for making me explain Bari Weiss to Turks. It's the emotional equivalent of explaining wh40k to the highschool cheerleading squad at gunpoint. Just no loving dignity left at all.

Zedhe Khoja
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alot of journalists who lived in places where they faced censorship and journalist suppression issues become free speech fanatics

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a democratically elected woman would be beholden to male voters, making her merely a servant of men. matriarchal dictatorship or bust

Zedhe Khoja
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Doesn't she have one of those trash Admin "doctorates" that only require like a 15 page paper at the end, that solely exist to justify the much higher wages higher ranking admins get compared to their much more educated and harder working teachers/professors?

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lol this starts out unironically saying that courts were the bulwark against the "tyranny of the majority" and proceeds to not draw any conclusions from that fact.
Amazing.

Zedhe Khoja
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Like the Elephonkey, centrists are freakish abominations in the eyes of God and Man and should be ruthlessly shunned by all. A good cartoon.

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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1318240265493123073
e: They're probably gonna fix it so :

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Ardennes posted:

I would say the initial intent was fine, but the actual way it was conducted was extremely sloppy and poorly sourced. It isn't even a matter of the original intent, but they just did a poor job.

Also, what is the story with the Intercept, did they get bought out? How did Greenwald go from co-founder to being sidelined?

He never actually had much institutional control over the publication despite his title. He was more of a "star journalist" than an actual editor.

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lol dude undermines the fascist government of one of the largest countries on earth and gets one of the worlds biggest leftist leaders out of prison and all the libs can hysterically shriek about is the aesthetics of his personality because they're freaks who think politics is a tv show. worthless trash people.

Zedhe Khoja
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Makes me miss the McLaughlin group. No one cheers for Franco and Salazar these days. It's all Pinochet Pinochet Pinochet. Maybe a dash of Sisi, but really the quality and variety of our fascism boosters has gone down the toilet.

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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1332342064982466565

Lying liars who lie, telling some lies again.

Zedhe Khoja
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Fisk has many faults, but Oz is basically screeching at him because he pissed on Brown Moses work and didn't write propaganda pieces boosting the Idlib psychos.

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Niskanen are literally libertarian splitters. Chapo did an episode on one of their lovely conferences.
https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/patreon-posts/8-S7oZT2Qp35s--tc_jHEzUsuIqHEgLaqNb0khXq-GI22Ao15onhEQdTJ6Awpsrw.mp3
It's chapo at its best: making fun of obscure yet influential dullards

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We'll still be locked in forever war with the Taliban, but hey at least the war will be over.

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Zedhe Khoja
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The Zero Unit psychos have been rampaging for awhile now, the story is just kind of an update since the last round of atrocity reporting.
And they largely aren't blackwater, they're local pseudo-police or Afghan SF under the control of American SF or CIA. Look for these programs specifically to be massively scaled up under Biden. He was a big booster of death squads under Obama, and preferred them to drones and conventional warfare.

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