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Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

I'm hoping this works for this thread, even though it's WaPoo:

https://twitter.com/GeorgeWHerbert/status/1186517535090335745

This is amazing. The WaPo hired an advisor to the NSO Group, the company which sold spyware to the Sauds. The ones who used that spyware to track and spy on Jamal Khashoggi shortly before they murdered and dismembered him at an embassy. A reporter who worked at WaPo.

And PJ O'Rourke, which is almost as egregious an insult to everyone's intelligence.

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 11:46

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Article on Chapo just pooped out.

quote:

The Pied Pipers of the Dirtbag Left Want to Lead Everyone to Bernie Sanders

Many listeners would never repeat what these podcast hosts say. So why do they desperately want to hear from them?

IOWA CITY � The people in the crowd were angry, and �Chapo Trap House� wanted them to stay that way. The five hosts of the popular socialist podcast wanted everyone to know they had all been lied to. About everything.

The media they consumed was fake news aimed to distract them from the only war worth fighting: the class war. Politesse, civility, even pleasure � those were tools of the neoliberal oppressor. The right answer is rage.

�That joy,� the Chapo co-host Will Menaker said to the crowd gathered in Iowa City on the eve of the Iowa caucus. �That�s good but it�s not as good a motivator when you�re really going to war as spite.�

�Let the hate feed you,� the co-host Amber A�Lee Frost added as the audience roared.

And it does. Especially toward other Democrats.

Supporters of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. are �gelatinous 100 year olds.�

Former Mayor Pete Buttigieg is �a bloodless asexual.�

�The gayest thing about him is he descends from an ethnic group that�s like a little toy dog,� Ms. A�Lee Frost said.

When Senator Elizabeth Warren�s name came up, the crowd made the sound of a snake hissing. She had accused Senator Bernie Sanders of saying that a woman could not win against Donald Trump, and so she is a snake.

�Yes my sssssoldiers,� Mr. Menaker said.

Former Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg�s run appalls them. �Beat him so badly that this midget gremlin won�t even have a shot even with a trillion dollars,� Mr. Menaker said.

�Kill him,� someone shouted from the audience. These were jokes, of course. Everyone was laughing.

As Mr. Sanders rises in the polls and claims strong showings in early states, a new set of media stars is on the rise, too. Leading the pack are the hosts of �Chapo Trap House,� the Pied Pipers of the candidate�s online movement.

In their rowdy, vulgar weekly podcast, they are stoking the fires of a political insurgency led by their 78-year-old idol. The man stands for the movement, the movement is the man.

�Our boy Bernie� they call him.

The fivesome of �Chapo Trap House" are not the only bards of the new American left � there is Red Scare and another whose name cannot be printed � but they have led the way for a movement that together generates millions of dollars a year. They are on their way to becoming the socialist�s answer to right-wing shock jock radio. Their primary targets, in evidence at that show in Iowa, are not the Republican Party or even Mr. Trump but rather centrist liberals, whom they see as the major obstacle to a workers� revolution.

In blurring occasionally violent humor, jovial community meetups and radical politics, they are the Tea Party reborn for progressives, and for their fans the appeal is in a bawdy offensive balance to cautious mainstream liberal politics.

They are known collectively as the Dirtbag Left, a shorthand they embrace that winkingly dispenses with any notion of liberal purity or inclusion, a defense mechanism that doubles as a nickname.

Most of the podcast fans would never say out loud what they are listening to onstage or through their AirPods on the commute. It�s offensive, even as a joke.

So why do so many progressives want to hear it?

The anti-establishment establishment
�Chapo Trap House,� which started in 2016, typically runs between 60 and 90 minutes. Two episodes are released every week, one for free and one for the nearly 38,000 people who pay $5 a month through the crowdfunding site Patreon. It leads to a financial windfall for the self-professed socialists who are harnessing this rage: $168,800 a month from those subscribers alone.

The main draw of the show is their banter, the hosts distilling the news of the week and checking in on their favorite and least favorite characters. But they have had major guests, including Mr. Sanders himself.

�These people on top are so powerful that the only way we bring them down, the only way we make the kinds of transformation this country absolutely requires is when millions of people are prepared to stand up and fight back,� Mr. Sanders said during his interview.

And the Sanders campaign maintains a close relationship with the podcast. His senior adviser David Sirota and his national press secretary Briahna Joy Gray have also been on the podcast. At the Iowa show, a Sanders volunteer stood at the door with fliers and pins to hand out and an email list to gather names.

Their followers � on the night in Iowa City more than 700 strong � come to hear them rage for three hours against the student debt, the high rent, the dead-end creative class jobs, and the feeling of hopelessness fighting against a liberal political establishment that seems polite when they are angry.

They were promised a better life, a more dignified life, and they are done waiting for it.

And for fans, it brings a sense of strength and community during a political era that has only felt like defeat.

�It�s really easy to feel alone in America. It�s the loneliest place in the loneliest time,� the co-host Felix Biederman said, speaking of the early days of their work. �But eventually people started to gather around all these posts into the void.�

The podcast has also morphed into a touring political rally: In addition to the Iowa show, the Chapo crew went to New Hampshire and Nevada, and they have a handful of dates in California leading up to Super Tuesday, filling large venues.

The topic is inequality, raging against the rich.

Progressives who are more concerned with racial equality or gender parity have had to figure out how to either go against the Dirtbag movement or resign themselves to this singular focus, which occasionally runs roughshod over all the rest.

�I�m a news junkie, and it�s good to supplement that with joking especially in America where everyone has to be so careful about what they say,� said Steven Sutro, a 32-year-old lawyer, who attended a comedy show last summer that featured a popular Dirtbag Left podcast host.

Julius Krein, the conservative founder of the new publication American Affairs, has noticed the new allies.

�There is a lot of interesting convergence on some of the anti-woke thinking and many things that, perhaps surprisingly, we agree on, for different reasons,� he said. One of the Chapo hosts contributed a piece to his magazine.

�It�s fairly easy to have fun, pretty exciting dialogue between right-wing anti-neoliberals and left-wing anti-neoliberals.�

But what some call an exciting dialogue can feel exclusionary to others.

��Chapo Trap House,� the entire Dirtbag Left, have tapped that male privilege of intimidating people into assuming you�re cool,� said Amanda Marcotte, a liberal feminist writer for Salon. �It reminds me of when we pretended that �Jackass� was funny back in the day, just so dudes wouldn�t bully you about not liking it.� (Ms. Marcotte has been vocal in her criticism of �Chapo Trap House� and is the subject of mocking attention from the dirtbag universe.)

As it grows in influence, the Dirtbag Left movement is now running into several challenges.

The movement�s identity is based on being in the wilderness. What happens if its leaders become the establishment? That seems increasingly possible as Mr. Sanders holds on to front-runner status in the 2020 campaign. They want what Mr. Sanders wants: universal health care, canceled student loans, free college, and an overhaul of the tax system. They want to cut the national prison population by half and to install a ban on fracking. And for them anything less than this is nothing at all.

These Sanders supporters eschew the idea of party unity as a scam: �I won�t vote for anyone but Bernie in the general, can�t say what the hundreds of thousands of people who listen to my show will do, but I�m only speaking for myself,� Mr. Menaker wrote on Twitter a day after the Iowa caucuses.

An additional challenge is that as the free-floating anger they stoke finds community, it is escalating and souring into sometimes violent and ugly rhetoric � the kind of rhetoric that other Democratic contenders have fashioned into a major critique of Mr. Sanders.

On Monday, the Sanders campaign fired a campaign organizer, Ben Mora, after his private Twitter feed was revealed to include derogatory comments about 2020 candidates. The Chapo hosts publicly supported Mr. Mora, praising his organizing work and saying, �I hope the campaign doesn�t cave to these whiners and losers.�

For the hosts and their fans, those sort of tweets and the podcast language are all jokes. The audience understands the difference, they argue, and anyway the real problem with the Democrats is that they�re overly sensitive. A bunch of self-serious PMCs (members of the professional-managerial class).

Over the summer, the �Chapo Trap House� message board, which has nearly 153,000 members who chat about the news and memes of the day, was censured by Reddit, which hosts it. The page now has limited reach and is in a sort of digital purgatory, where it remains.

�The reason for the quarantine is that we have observed repeated rule-breaking behavior in your community, especially in the form of encouragement of violence,� Reddit administrators wrote to the group. Comments considered in violation included jokes around historically violent left-wing populist revolutions, like who goes to the guillotine first.

While Hitler jokes are well understood as vile, there is less consensus on what to do when Stalin is the punchline.

�If you want to kick off ironic Nazis, what do you do with the ironic Maoists and ironic Stalinists?� said Andrew Marantz, author of �Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation.�

After receiving their punishment, Chapo moderators wrote to Reddit frustrated: �Are all references to gulags to be considered violent content?�

What Chapo means to the people who listen
The Chapo show in Iowa City was sold out. A few young men wandered down the line asking if anyone had spare tickets.

�We do everything our parents say, and it doesn�t work,� said Brayson Cope, 18, a college student from Altoona and a Sanders volunteer.

His reason for listening to Chapo is simple, he said.

�They�re angry. I like it because they�re angry.�

A man in a Vets for Bernie shirt listed some of the words that he learned from listening to Chapo: Marxist materialist, the superstructure, neoliberal. That last one is the top insult in this group � neoliberal shill, is how it would be phrased. And, according to fans of the podcast and movement, there are a lot of neoliberal shills out there.

For many left-wing groups, the Chapo podcast and its Reddit community are now setting the weekly conversation agenda.

�It�s a touchstone,� said Brendan McGillicuddy, 39, who teaches in the cultural studies department at the University of Minnesota. �At my workplace, everyone listens to it, even if you don�t like it.�

As the show began, the five hosts sat in a half circle, dressed casually.

�I hear you live in your parent�s houses,� Mr. Biederman said.

They dove into a discussion of the caucuses, and polling, and whether the media is fair to Mr. Sanders (they think not).

�Should everything go according to plan on Monday, you will have the opportunity to drive a stake through the heart of every single one of the most insufferable cowards in the world,� Mr. Menaker said.

�I�ve been keeping a list,� Ms. A�Lee Frost said. �Have you been keeping a list?�

There was a case of White Claw, an alcoholic seltzer water, onstage.

When Hillary Clinton�s name came up, the reaction was nearly indistinguishable from a Trump rally.

�Lock her up,� the co-host Matt Christman said to the crowd.

The crowd began to chant: Lock her up. Lock her up.

�She never really cracked the glass ceiling,� Mr. Biederman said. �She more like fell down the glass staircase.�

During the three-hour show, there is little vision laid out for what they want, beyond a Sanders presidency. There is a vision for what they want destroyed and how good it will feel to do that. The idea of actually taking power is terrifying, and they say so.

�What�s scary is the idea that this could end,� Mr. Biederman said. �What�s scary is we�re not just tossing catharsis into the void, that this is something real. We are there.�

The Chapo radicals
When �Chapo Trap House� tried to put on an event in Brooklyn over the summer, the Gowanus Canal, a Superfund site in the middle of a now-trendy neighborhood, flooded and was mixed with a downpour to make a knee-deep, fast-moving, debris-filled river.

Fans held on to one another as they marched through it to get to a live taping. Inside the venue, they sat in folding chairs as water rose at their feet. When the bathrooms began flooding, the manager decided the night was canceled, and fans begrudgingly slushed their way out.

The Chapo co-host Virgil Texas (he lives and works under that pseudonym) went to a nearby bar for a beer.

�It�s a common experience to be someone with a crappy job who does not have an outlet for your set of beliefs and you feel insane because you�re surrounded by liberals or Evangelicals or whatever stultifying milieu,� he said. �And one day you find a piece of media with some folks who are articulating what you always believed: You�re not crazy, you�re right, this is exactly how the world works, and you�re getting screwed.�

He said he knew that the anger the podcast was building could be dangerous, but he said the anger � and the fear of violence it brings � was good.

His girlfriend at the time, who worked in the media, joined at the bar. He ordered popcorn and a coconut cocktail called the painkiller, and sat hunched over, gesticulating rapidly in the tight space between his face and his lap.

�Educating a generation and saddling them with debt and then not giving them jobs where they have the wage that they presume they should receive based on the amount of time they spent on education,� Virgil said. �That�s a pretty good way to turn them into radicals.�

He is a good example of his own target audience: He graduated with $100,000 of debt from Cornell and after college took freelance gigs from Craigslist, hoping to write.

While the Chapo hosts rail against the media establishment, they are also deeply entwined with it and largely beloved by it. (Mr. Menaker, for example, grew up on the Upper West Side, the son of a New York Times editor and a New Yorker editor.)

Their goal is to cut off the right wing of the Democratic Party. The center-left and the center-right are in cahoots, friendly and living near each other in wealthy neighborhoods like the Upper West Side and �

�Westchester,� his girlfriend interjected softly. (She is from there; she wants to stay anonymous; the Chapo fans scare her.)

�No no, I wasn�t going to say Westchester, darling,� he assured her.

He does not want to live in a capitalist society at all.

�I think it�s a moral stain to live in this society,� he said. �And every day I think, God I�d rather just leave.�

But he�s not sure where he would move.

For now, he has decided to go on the road.

Outside the Iowa City show, Adam Angstead, 46, had stepped out of the theater for a cigarette. He works for the Iowa City school district as a substitute teacher five days a week, but he said his employment offers no benefits. On the weekends he works at a diner. Twice a week he sells his blood plasma for extra cash.

It�s still not enough. He was trying to pay down his $40,000 in student loans for a while, but it hardly made a dent, and recently he has gotten a deferment. For him, the primary feels like a life-or-death battle.

�Being in a room with a bunch of people who think the same thing or close made me think we might not all literally die,� he said. �Bernie�s the only one.�

Toward the end of the show, the crowd by then frenzied and a little drunk, periodically broke out in chants of Mr. Sanders�s slogan: Not Me. Us.

And finally, with the Chapo hosts leading, they stood and sang �Solidarity Forever,� the old trade union anthem.

People put their arms around each other and swayed as they screamed.

In our hands is placed a power
Greater than their hoarded gold
We can bring to birth a new world
From the ashes of the old.

# ¿ Feb 29, 2020 16:45

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Eli Valley is the best, but whoever did this and got John Podhoretz to think it was somehow flattering of him, is a MOTHER. loving. GENIUS.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2020 09:46

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Main Paineframe posted:

noticeably absent from the headline is the fact that the guy is homeless, has a negative bank balance, presumably has a nice big pile of medical debt from his recent ICU stay, and got back to his lovely low-wage diner job just in time to find that his hours were being cut

he's got a p obvious interest in saying Americans should keep going out to eat, because his only other economic prospect is hoping the GOP governor of his red-as-hell state enacts massive expansions of public services

also, he's a libertarian, so he doesn't believe in government services anyway

He should've loving died.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2020 22:03

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Does MSNBC count as part of the Failing Jew York Slimes apparatus? Because Joy Ann Reid was given a prime-time daily slot on the network. Fuckin' looooooooooooooooooooooooool

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 01:55

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

I'm sorry, that was entirely meant to be an ironic usage of the term that gets unironically thrown about by chuds. I didn't mean to come across as though I was being sincere in using it.

That said, Joy Ann Reid, who once posted that, "My feeling is that the only reason that a world war between civilizations has not already broken out is that the vast majority of Muslims living in the world today are so desperately poor that they have the time, energy and resources for only the occasional burst of AK-47 fire into the air from the garbage and sewage laden streets outside of their mud huts. Give them resources and I fear that they will come after us everywhere that they can find us, which is to say everywhere." and then blamed it on time-traveling Russian blog hackers, now has a prime-time MSNBC show. Seems disconcerting.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 03:18

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

But hey, at least we'll now have full-time anti-Semitic 'body language experts' on to tell us how Bernie Sanders is actually the scheming merchant caricature drawing IRL. That was cool. Remember when JAR literally brought that person on?

# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 03:39

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Yeah, hah. Ugh, I just didn't realize it would be interpreted as offensive and cringeworthy, sorry. I should stick to calling Obama Barfsack Ocrumbo or Baquack Obamailure if I wanna get silly with it.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 03:51

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

"Television stations owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group are set to air discredited conspiracy theory doc over the weekend that suggests Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top expert on infectious diseases, was responsible for the creation of the coronavirus."

cool.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2020 17:47

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Some Guy TT posted:

anyway if its nazis youre worried about ive got some bad news

https://mobile.twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1364973993304985601

were all nazis now

I'm trying to find the words to describe that ultra-cynical distortion of reality. It's evil, but in a particularly stupid way that will cause enormous damaging blowback upon the libs saying it. Oh well.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 13:50

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Gonna cross-post this because I feel it's relevant to our media apparatus as a whole:

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1365492947245015046

Fairly reminiscient "HIGH JACK THIS FAGS", but liberal!

I found something funny on that Wikipedia page I hadn't heard before, though, having lived the times and seeing the photoshop thread for it back in the day:

Both the Associated Press and the United States Navy have apologized for the incident. AP spokesman Jack Stokes described publishing the photograph as a "journalistic error," saying that the "fag bomb" picture "never should have gotten through, and nobody should have seen it."

Not 'hey we probably shouldn't be writing anti-gay slurs on bombs being sent at poor people in the Global South', but an apology from the loving AP about how they would never ordinarily or intentionally let ANYTHING exposing the bloodthirsty, homophobic, ignorant nature of the American servicehog through!

# ¿ Feb 27, 2021 10:07

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Yo yo yo, this is the Red Kahina Hour and we're talking the dangers of Slavoj Zizek and Crappo Bieberkopff.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2021 02:33

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Clark Nova posted:

That warning grew out of the Hunter Biden thing last year where they were trying to conflate (extremely dubious) evidence of corruption with dick pics

The only thing 'extremely dubious' was that measurement of 9 inches. Sir, that is not how you measure the length of a penis.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2021 19:28

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

https://twitter.com/AlexeiArora/status/1367503155643240450

It's... the exact thing liberals all mean when they say 'WE BELIEVE IN *SCIENCE*'

# ¿ Mar 5, 2021 02:18

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

There's literally only one person on that entire list of 30 loving people who I don't actively pray for the demise of, and even in his case, he's turned over a new leaf and become an utter shitlib. (Daryl Davis, who ruled once)

It's impressive, though, that they managed to stack that bottom row so loving heavily with no-talent scum. As I was reading the thing from top to bottom, I thought it'd be hard to top Pinker and Ayaan Hirsi Ali and all, but there come Bari Weiss with loving CHATTERTON backing her up somehow.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2021 02:36

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

https://twitter.com/MandelaFace/status/1367870208895983617

I just love the Olivia Nazi saga so much. What an absolute loving reptile.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2021 18:21

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

gradenko_2000 posted:

America likes having monarchs but also doesn't like admitting that they like having monarchs

It's like that tweet from Meghan McCain where she says it's a good thing the USA has freedom instead of the royal family when her entire life has just been coasting on unearned privilege from being her father's daughter

Or people wishing that Michelle Obama would run for President (followed by Chelsea Clinton, then the Obama kids)

Fun aside with Meghan:

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1369377498732101634

# ¿ Mar 9, 2021 21:32

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

smug jeebus posted:

I don't think it's the funniest thing ever, but E1 did a solid hour of Biden impersonating https://soundcloud.com/episode-one-868768631/113-joe-biden

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L76x2tOs3R1GES_jFSwsyZkFbDfynd3yerAyeD05rMU/edit

There's some amazing poo poo in here.

"I was whitewashing a fence down there in Dover when I was just but a boy and people say now, they look at me like some old guy that never knew ... like a black guy or something. And I tell you, my best friend growing up, for about six months, there was a black feller named Tippy Toe, and he taught me a lot of stuff about different friends of different ages. He was 20 years older than me and we painted fences together, he was. a good friend of mine. Me and him would get in his dad's long car and we would just kind of go on down to the beach and see how much of the car we could dip into the water."

# ¿ Mar 10, 2021 14:26

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/GOP_Ethics/status/1369124604665544704?s=20

Hahaha, someone in the replies pointed out that every last one of those loving 'royal reporters' who endlessly smear Meghan Markle have just the best demons that haunt them every night as they down glass after glass of wine until the agony ceases just enough that they can sleep. Evil, abusive alkie mom for Camilla there! I mean, if her mom weren't the evil piece of poo poo she was, she probably wouldn't be this way... but since she is this way, I just want to revel in the fact that she's tormented to the point of her eventual, thankful, suicide.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2021 14:33

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

mastershakeman posted:

that random dude doing the voice had a 10000% better parody of trump than any of the high paid snl writers and stars

Not that it's easy to suss out who anyone is on that episode in particular thanks to the format, but Felix Biederman of Chapo is one of them and has a real firm grasp on Biden and his senility-addled speech patterns.

# ¿ Mar 10, 2021 14:36

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322

Who here enjoys the manufacturing of consent? That opening paragraph is amazing. Just "Here's what bullshit Donald Trump put out. Now we give it credence for no reason..."

# ¿ Mar 11, 2021 01:41

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Yascha looks exactly like just a lump of melty suet with a sparse smattering of hair tossed atop it. Which represents his intellectual stature and ethics pretty accurately.

Alternatively: The Ineffectual Dork Weebs

# ¿ Mar 11, 2021 13:02

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Maya Fey posted:

https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1370648837845446656

Yeah. It begun in 2019 and was pretty widely-reported, just not in the 'reputable' New York Times. Now that Nazis who murdered protesters in the streets to defend their fascist coup are being held to account, they seem to have a little bit more of a raised voice? Odd...

# ¿ Mar 13, 2021 22:33

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1371057078371033088

The Failing New York Times, meet The Corrupted, Cuckold Guardian

# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 15:28

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

How damaging can Mark Hemingway be to an open buffet? You don't want to know.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2021 23:18

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

https://twitter.com/BoozeAndFagz/status/1371748021692682240

I sometimes underestimate the horrific nature of the UK and the UK press.

https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1371804391888543746

Just defending some admitting to want to BE a pedophile by accusing you of worshipping a pedophile. And then orchestrating a months-long campaign of death threats and rape threats against you with the tacit approval of the entire loving British media establishment because the victim is brown to some degree.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2021 19:28

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Some Guy TT posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/1371915132788477955

so is david klion a goon or did this meme escape sa at some point

As much as I like that there's an article about Bernie Sanders GETTING :clap: THINGS :clap: DONE!!!, I can't help but wonder if the LA Times might wanna tone down the negative framing somewhat. Seems mildly inflammatory and maybe like they were intentionally avoiding just using the slur they wanted to? "QUICK, INTERNS, GET THE THESAURUS OUT; WE NEED ANOTHER SYNONYM FOR "JEWISHLY"..."

# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 17:02

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

spacemang_spliff posted:

the most insane part is that he is on house arrest, despite not being convicted, and the crime he's charged with the DA declined to prosecute. the judge hired a chevron aligned private law firm to handle his prosecution.

What I find awesome is that there's literally nothing that can be done without working within the legal system that's already corrupted. How is this different (worse, even, because of the threat of retributory force from the State) from just Somalian anarchy with warlords running any given area, again? At least you can fight back in Somalia. Kill someone trying to kill you enough times and someone's gonna stop trying to kill you.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 17:41

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Jazerus posted:

wtf tucker has another face???

Yep. And we all know what kind of face it resembles. SOY!!!

# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 16:02

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

brugroffil posted:

https://twitter.com/GrannaBaker/status/1372802891535110149

https://twitter.com/GrannaBaker/status/1372904009292378114

it's also funny that this doofus is acting like he got dog-piled and really it's a few dozen replies total

"Marilyn Baker @GrannaBaker Writer, educator, artisan, golfer, photographer ... former geeky type. Passionate about mental illness and its devastating effect on people."

You'd IMAGINE that, when you read that someone cares deeply about mental health issues, they wouldn't mean 'it's cool and good and I like it because it makes people's footing in life treacherous from the get-go'

# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 16:16

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

I imagine the millions upon millions of people in this country alone who're forced into doing things like... selling their body, effectively trading being raped for continuing to live, in order to feed or house themselves, they aaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll see capitalism as a universal force of good. Not that it's an all-consuming monster that turns people into husks for the sake of a handful of elites.

Something I've been thinking about, on that note: It's WEIRD how, if you stick a gun in someone's face and threaten them with rape unless they pay you, you tend to be punished for it, but putting someone in the position of needing to prostitute themselves or face homelessness and starvation, that's okay. Not as though it's happening to a great many people, and those who're structurally benefiting from that arrangement are few in number or anything, though...

# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 16:21

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Six Degrees of Being Harassed By Kevin Bacon's Character From The Paul Verhoeven Film Hollow Man

# ¿ Mar 20, 2021 08:02

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Eugene V. Dubstep posted:

jfc

jfc is right. How did you end up so gullible? Did you miss every single instance of bias and corruption and lies pertaining to every single event in history until this point? Because I can point to any of those w/r/t 'don't trust the loving American government, media establishment, and racist mob' to dictate how you should be treating the 'news' of Xinjiang's massive ongoing 10+ trillion Weegur jeno side.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 14:24

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

I'm lost with what you wrote, Jose. But it seems like the Labour Party decided to step in and put the kibosh on three separate women trying to run for the mayorship there? (because they might be too left-leaning or not pro-Israel enough or just simply not apt to lose like Deir Stormer prefers?)

# ¿ Mar 25, 2021 13:07

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

gradenko_2000 posted:

I mean I would also be okay with demolishing the Senate instead of dicking around with the filibuster

This but also Yascha Mounk's home

# ¿ Mar 26, 2021 17:37

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

I was calling the media adopting capital-B Black universally as being virtue signaling to cover for their racism and complicity at every turn in the state's violence against minorities and the poor, but... yeah. Wasn't expecting it to be not even a year before they just went full-bore pandering to white supremacists too! Strategically covering for themselves as they downplayed, misrepresented, and straight-up lied about BLM. "We can't be just dogshit-brained institutions of white supremacy and evil, we're giving you a capital letter every once in a while even though it makes no sense to! It's fiiiiiiiine, now here's another story about how violent black antagonists violently rioted in the streets of major cities and tried to burn down our glorious metropoli with the power of flame that they stole from good, hard-working White folk."

Note the... strategical capitalization scheme there. Not just capital-B Black anymore! We're going full 'KKK ALL THE WAY' with this poo poo. Capital-W White! MULTIPLE TIMES EVEN, SUGGESTING IT IS THE FORMATTING NOW. :toot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/06/facebook-discrimination-hiring-bias/

quote:

Eight months later, in August 2020, Lindsey attended a virtual meeting to discuss the company�s goal of hiring more Black engineers. In the meeting, a White manager played a Drake song in the background whose chorus repeats the phrase �Where the [n-word]s be at?," five times, according to videos of the incident reviewed by The Washington Post.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2021 16:09

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

"Listen, fat" was initially addressed to one particular Greek man, Stavros Halkias.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2021 23:33

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

I kinda WANTED to be wrong but

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/07/us/ronnie-long-fighting-compensation-cap-in-nc-trnd/index.html

quote:

Long, who is Black, was accused of raping a White woman in 1976. An all-White jury found him guilty of rape and burglary and sentenced him to life in prison.

What do ya know. The entirety of the media establishment has adopted the norm of capital-W white.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2021 01:52

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

Why he WAS OR WAS NOT IN SCHOOL.

The video was at night.

What loving 13-year-old is in school at dusk.

It's a pandemic, too.

Schools are or should be closed.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 22:43

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 11:46

Apoplexy: Mar 9, 2003; by Shine

EY LOIS
I BET DA CHINESE ARE DOIN SOMETHING AMISS LIKE THAT TIME WHEN WE WENT TO THE CHINESE FIREWORK STORE

*cutaway to Chinese firework store being run by Chinese people, innocently*

WE NEED TO NUKE THE MAINLAND FOR TAIWAN'S CONTINUED PROTECTION

# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 02:14

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