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YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

chaleski posted:

Woodley is going to have tepid five round decisions with everyone

Eh, historically he absolutely loving blasts like a third of them, so he will have boring tepid decisions with 2/3rds of everyone.

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YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

The only people who are actually in line for title shots are Conor McGregor and GSP.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Rigel posted:

Live sports are just about the only thing resistant to DVR. No one is watching Sportscenter or their analysis shows, so they need live content to stay alive.

The issue isn't DVR, it's cord cutting. ESPN is wholly dependent on cable subscription revenues, which are dropping because fewer people have cable. At the same time ESPN signed a bunch of long term contracts with college football conferences that mean they're on the hook for billions of dollars over the next few years while revenue is shrinking. They aren't going to get into a bidding war for the UFC.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Disney has a lot of money but I'm not sure why that means they'd want to dump a bunch of it into propping up the UFC on ESPN so they can rake in tens of dozens of viewers who want to watch a Corey Anderson vs Patrick Cummings number one contender match.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Max is going to beat Frankie.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Vitamin Boss posted:

That doesn't change who he actually fought. He hasn't fought a real contender in years, so I wouldn't assume he could still easily beat RDA who has had 8 fights against much tougher competition since they fought each other. RDA started looking a lot better after that fight and went on to win the belt.

So you wouldn't assume that the guy who won the first one would win the second, but you would assume that the guy who lost the first one would win the second based in the fact that he's gotten beaten up a lot more in the intervening years?

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

A knockdown in boxing isn't like a submission attempt and extending the round for a submission attempt is a dumb idea.

YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jul 17, 2017

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Meisha has had some entertaining fights, but her fights with Ronda were extremely one sided and the only thing you can say in her favor is that she took longer to lose convincingly than most.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Weidman is a tough fight for Gastelum, who is talented, but is also a fat welterweight who has only beaten up very old men at 185.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Zzulu posted:

and who did weidman beat if not for a bunch of old men

At 185? A fair number of people.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

I hope Rockhold never gets a chance to get his win back because Bisping giving him poo poo about getting knocked out is really funny.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Skip My Posts posted:

wouldnt paying the bottom guys more also help the UFC itself since they could start training full time and become better, more exciting fighters?

No, they should pad all cards with the bottom 1000 guys so that when the guys who sell tickets and ppvs get old and bad and quit the only people there to replace them are some 4-6 dudes named Ray and Chet last seen fighting on the prelims of UFC FightPass in Omaha.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

1st AD posted:

if history is anything to go by, the best base for being an MMA star is being so broke and destitute that you consider going into the trades or moderate pokemon forums and play wow until you're sick of that poo poo. i'm not sold that paying 12/12 guys 30/30 will make the company more money in the long run.

Ronda's first UFC contract probably wasn't for 12k.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

1st AD posted:

Ronda was already a star by the time she got a UFC contract. Not exactly an unknown at that point. Her first Strikeforce fight was for 4/4.

lol, she fought Miesha Tate for 15/17.

Her Strikeforce numbers were good but not great. Her best draw was against Kaufman, which was still worse than Diaz vs Cyborg.

Also, she's dead now and Conor McGregor is a boxer and Lesnar is milking the UFC for leverage against WWE and their last PPV had four viewers because it turns out that giving all of the money and promotion to three people and making GBS threads on your champions isn't a great way to build a sustainable viewership.

Also, let's pretend that it's all just a meritocracy and guys get paid based on views the bring and Sage Northcutt isn't making more than 90% of the roster despite no one giving a poo poo about Sage Northcutt.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

tesilential posted:

A random top 30 fighter brings in zero new eyeballs when he joins the UFC. Sage a top 1000 (maybe) fighter brings in at least a few teenage girls who wouldn't watch otherwise.

I would wager adding Sage to a card would do about the same as adding Mousasi, and sage is way, way cheaper.

I hate to have to state it so simply but this should all be common sense.

Your idiotic attempt to perform eyeball calculus to determine exactly who is responsible for which viewers and how to divvy this up monetarily is stupid, and not actually common sense. If the UFC actually thought that there was no value to having better fighters on the midcard and prelims they would just 500 bucks to King of the Cage rejects to fill in the other 10 fights on each card that don't involve one of the half dozen notable draws in the organization.

There is value in being seen as the premiere MMA organization which involves having most of the best fighters, and also in discovering guys on the rise when you can lock them into contracts instead of trying to buy them after they blow up.

And when you do find a superstar you probably want people for them to fight and not the 1000th ranked whatever fresh from the Z leagues.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

tesilential posted:

I respect your view, but it's an emotional one not a logical one.

The UFC currently has one active fighter that can reliably draw more than 300k views and he's doing a boxing match and then buying an island to retire to with the proceeds, so I'm not sure their model is all that smart. The only people who seem to watch the non-McGregor cards are MMA fans who want to see good fights and they're the ones you alienate by running off the middle and back of the top ten and filling those spots with Pat Cummins or whatever.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

The first D.C/Jones fight did 800k, but there seemed to be a lot more heat around that one than this one. 500K would still be the best non-McGregor/Non-Rousey/non-Lesnar card they've had in a couple of years.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Le Saboteur posted:

Wasn't it specifically an injured back too?

He pulled out due to fluid and blood in his lungs, but sure, blame that on lovely deadlift form and squatting tires.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Mr. Nice! posted:

I was mostly impressed with JBJ's ability to keep his fists closed and not spend the fight raking his opponent's eyes.

I was legitimately impressed by this.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

I need to see Woodley vs Nick.

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YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Novum posted:

Almost like it benefits him for a man he beat twice to be the new champion.

Well, he also happens to be right that Frankie deserves it more than anyone else.

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