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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

"I saw Dallas Keuchel....THERE'S A BEARD!!!!!"


Broken Cake



And here we are again. The hiatus months. After what I've determined to be a divisive series, we now reflect on what we've learned: the Master is dead, the Doctor is about to die, and Bill is not-exactly-dead-but-not-exactly-alive. With the Doctor trying to will himself not to regenerate, he runs into the last person you'd expect: himself (or a reasonable facsimile)! What does the First Doctor have to say to the Twelfth Doctor? Hell, what does the Twelfth Doctor have to say to the First Doctor? We'll find out...at Christmas.

The Christmas 2017 special will mark not only the departure of Peter Capaldi as the Doctor incumbant, but also the departure of showrunner Steven Moffat. Over the past six series, Doctor Who has continued to grow as a television series, building a mythos of its own just from 2005 onward. That's not to say that Moffat hasn't honoured the past, because holy poo poo Alpha Centauri? Nobody saw that coming! Of course, Moffat's tenure won't just be remembered for the highs. Remember the split series we had in 2011 and 2012/13? That was confusing. Not to mention the lack of a 2016 series, which some regard as an unforgivable sin. Oh, and some episodes that DID air were not very good. In a way, though, it's the same cycle we had in the RTD era. When he announced he was bringing back Doctor Who, we were all 'hooray!' but when he left in 2010, we were all 'thank God'. It's the hoop of existence.

So, now what you may ask? Well, if you're an American (and possibly if you're a Canadian), I have good news!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWwJLqjoCfc

If the video won't play outside of North America, here's the deal: RiffTrax is going to riff on The Five Doctors, live in cinemas across America (and maybe Canada) on August 17th! If you don't see it live (or see its encore a week later), don't fret - Mike, Kevin, and Bill usually put up an audio file of the jokes you sync manually...eventually. We're still waiting on the Mothra riff from last year. If you're on the fence about going, what is wrong with you? It's RiffTrax! They're really funny! (note: I am also the OP of the RiffTrax thread in CD)

After that, well, I'm sure there's SOME Doctor Who material you haven't digested yet. Whether it's a book, a comic, or an audio drama, it's almost impossible to keep up with all the adventures out there. I say ALMOST impossible, because there's a website that kept up with literally every Doctor Who story of every kind that hasn't updated since the Day of the Doctor. If some out there wants to run with it, I'm all for it!

The previous thread can be found here. Now for the formalities.

NO SPOILERS
By edict of the moderators, this is a SPOILER-FREE ZONE. Other than backstage stuff (hiring people), DO NOT POST SPOILERS. AT ALL. Even if the Washington Post reveals video of Donald Trump handing a big stack of government secrets to Vladimir Putin and one of the papers is labeled 'Martha Jones is a Rutan', DON'T POST IT HERE. If you must post about spoilers, go to the spoiler thread. Episode titles can be spoiler-y, so use discretion when discussing episodes yet to air. For example, 'Hide' doesn't spoil anything, but 'OH poo poo IT'S THE DALEKS' does.

WHERE DO I START?
If you want to start with the revival, you should start with The Eleventh Hour The Pilot. This doesn't mean to disregard the nine series from 2005-2015, but it's a good getting-on point. If you want to watch the original series, there are plenty of places to start. You COULD start with An Unearthly Child and watch everything in chronological order. You could also watch individual serials of all the Doctors and determine which you like the best. Keep in mind, don't shotgun a whole Hartnell or Troughton in one go, or else you'll get complacent. Those 60's episodes are meant to be seen one at a time, and if you only just rented the DVD, wait a few hours between episodes.

The most popular serials for the original series you can jump into are:

First Doctor: An Unearthly Child, The Aztecs
Second Doctor: The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Enemy of the World
Third Doctor: Spearhead from Space, Carnival of Monsters
Fourth Doctor: Pyramids of Mars, The Robots of Death
Fifth Doctor: Kinda, Frontios
Sixth Doctor: Vengeance on Varos, Revelation of the Daleks
Seventh Doctor: Dragonfire, Remembrance of the Daleks

WHERE CAN I WATCH DOCTOR WHO ON TELEVISION?

Original Series:
USA - Retro TV, some PBS stations
Australia - Syfy
UK and Canada - you're out of luck

Current Series:
UK - BBC One (first run), Watch
USA - BBC America (first run), most PBS stations
Canada - Space
Australia - ABC1 (first run), ABC2, Syfy

WHERE CAN I STREAM DOCTOR WHO?

Original Series:
USA - BritBox*
Everyone else - you're out of luck (Australians can watch the TV movie on Stan, though!)

*Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, the Five Doctors, Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Remembrance of the Daleks are not available, along with any serial missing at least one episode.

Current Series:
UK - Netflix
USA - Amazon Video
Canada - CraveTV
Australia - Netflix & Stan

SHOULD I BUY THE DVDs AND BLU RAYS?
Just for the bonus features alone.

AN INCREASINGLY LESS BRIEF GUIDE TO BIG FINISH
There are hundreds, probably thousands of Doctor Who and Doctor Who-related audio dramas released by Big Finish Productions. This is not a post telling you what audio dramas to listen to, because everyone has an opinion that is different from everyone else (some people like Minuet in Hell, believe it or not). This is a post telling you the basic info on the different series of titles there are. I'm only covering ongoing ranges, since devoting a paragraph to the Stage Plays seems a bit silly. If you're wondering why I'm about to spend a good portion of the OP about audio dramas, you are clearly new to the Doctor Who thread.

The Monthly Range
Since 1999, Big Finish have released, on a consistent basis, mostly standalone stories featuring the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh (formerly including Eighth) Doctors. Up to 227th(!) release this month.

The Fourth Doctor Adventures
Tom Baker gets his own line of releases.

Philip Hinchcliffe Presents
Back on again! Another Tom Baker line of releases, all based on stories written by former showrunner Philip Hinchcliffe.

The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield
Sylvester McCoy (and later, David Warner) plays a supporting role to Bernice Summerfield, a companion introduced in the Virgin New Adventures line of books.

Novel Adaptations
Based on Virgin New Adventures and Virgin Missing Adventures, the book ranges that lasted Doctor Who fans from 1991 to 1997.

The Eighth Doctor Adventures / Dark Eyes / Doom Coalition
Paul McGann's Doctor also gets his own line. Goons love 'em.

The Tenth Doctor Adventures
David Tennant reprises his role in mini-seasons every chance he can get, and the results are very RTD-like. In a good way!

The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures
This is important: SOME OF THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles originally were one-handers, but now may contain small casts, which the Early Adventure always have.

Spinoffs
There are a ton of these, ranging from good (I, Davros) to who gives a poo poo (anything involving a companion from the audio series).

THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE
It's back! Watch in amazement as the forums user currently known as Lick! The! Whisk! puts his writing skills to the test in describing his thoughts on the most recent series. They will be wrong.

FINALLY, let's take a look back to the year 2007!

serotet posted:

Motion: The Cybermen Have Never Had A Defining Classic Story.

Yeah, Tomb was very neat, but the Cybermen themselves are brutally underused and from my vague recollection, apart from the Cybercontroller in the dying minutes of episode 4, they never leave the tomb cave at all.

Earthshock (or Resurrection of the Cybermen as I like to call it) is dull, like watching a film Michael Bay might have directed in his early teens. I'm sure the reveal in episode 1 was cool at the time, but, like the Toclafane twist, it has no dramatic value beyond 'Surprise!'.

I'm settling down to watch The Invasion sometime next week, but I've heard it doesn't justify it's length and I can't see how it ever could. Hope I'm wrong though!

In conclusion: Every cyberstory after Tomb was crap

The more things change, the more they stay the same! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Burkion
May 10, 2012

Changeman! And Not A Moment Too Soon!


I see you've changed things.


I don't like it.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?

YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

Where are the round things? I love those...

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


As always, shameless self-advertising:

An index of the write-ups I've done for all the Revival Episodes so far, as well as the (distressingly large number) of Big Finish Audios I've listened to so far.

Be warned that most of the television write-ups feature a number of spoilers for future episodes as well, as they were all written months or years after I saw them on original airing. Audio write-ups may also feature references to episodes of the show, both classic and revival.

4th Doctor Adventures (Audio)
Season One

5th Doctor
Phantasmagoria | The Land of the Dead | Red Dawn | Winter for the Adept | The Mutant Phase | Loup-Garoux/The Eye of the Scorpion | Primeval | The Church and the Crown | Nekromanteia | Creatures of Beauty | Omega | The Axis of Insanity | The Roof of the World | The Game | Three's a Crowd | The Council of Nicaea | Singularity | The Kingmaker | The Gathering/The Veiled Leopard | Circular Time | Renaissance of the Daleks | Exotron | Son of the Dragon | The Mind's Eye | The Bride of Peladon | The Haunting of Thomas Brewster | The Boy That Time Forgot | Time Reef | The Judgement of Isskar | The Destroyer of Delights | The Chaos Pool

6th Doctor
Whispers of Terror | The Marian Conspiracy | The Spectre of Lanyon Moor | The Apocalypse Element | The Holy Terror | Bloodtide | Project: Twilight | The One Doctor | ...ish | The Sandman | Jubilee | Doctor Who and the Pirates | Project: Lazarus | Davros | The Wormery | Arrangements for War | Medicinal Purposes | The Juggernauts | Catch-1782 | Thicker Than Water | Pier Pressure | The Nowhere Place | The Reaping | Year of the Pig | I.D | The Wishing Beast | 100 | The Condemned | Assassin in the Limelight | The Doomwood Curse | Brotherhood of the Daleks | Return of the Krotons | The Raincloud Man | Patient Zero | Paper Cuts

7th Doctor
The Fearmonger | The Genocide Machine | The Fires of Vulcan | The Shadow of the Scourge | Dust Breeding | Colditz | The Rapture | Bang-Bang-a-Boom! | The Dark Flame | Project: Lazarus | Flip-Flop | Master | The Harvest | Dreamtime | Unregenerate! | Live 34 | Night Thoughts | The Settling | Red | No Man's Land | Nocturne | Valhalla | Frozen Time | The Dark Husband | The Death Collectors | Kingdom of Silver | Forty-Five | The Magic Mousetrap | Enemy of the Daleks | The Angel of Scutari

8th Doctor
Televised
TV Movie: The Enemy Within | The Night of the Doctor
Audio Monthly Range
Storm Warning | Sword of Orion | The Stones of Venice | Minuet in Hell | Invaders from Mars | The Chimes of Midnight | Seasons of Fear | Embrace the Darkness | The Time of the Daleks | Neverland | Zagreus | Scherzo/The Creed of Kromon | The Natural History of Fear | The Twilight Kingdom Faithstealer/The Last/Caerdroia/The Next Life | Terror Firma | Scaredy Cat | Other Lives | Time Works | Something Inside | Memory Lane | Absolution | The Girl Who Never Was | The Company of Friends

Audio 8th Doctor Adventures
Season 1: Blood of the Daleks | The Horror of Glam Rock | Immortal Beloved | Phobos | No More Lies | Human Resources
Season 2: Dead London | Max Warp | Brave New Town | The Skull of Sobek | Grand Theft Cosmos | The Zygon Who Fell to Earth | Sisters of the Flame | The Vengeance of Morbius
Season 3: Orbis | The Hothouse | The Beast of Orlok | Wirrn Dawn | The Scapegoat | The Cannibalists | The Eight Truths | Worldwide Web
Season 4: Death in Blackpool | (Bonus) An Earthly Child | Situation Vacant | Nevermore | The Book of Kells | Deimos/The Resurrection of Mars | Relative Dimensions | Prisoner of the Sun | Lucie Miller/To The Death


The War Doctor
Only the Monstrous | Infernal Devices | Agents of Chaos | Casualties of War | The Day of the Doctor

9th Doctor
Rose | The End of the World | The Unquiet Dead | Aliens of London/World War 3 | Dalek | The Long Game | Father's Day | The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances | Boom Town | Bad Wolf | The Parting of the Ways

10th Doctor
Season 2
The Christmas Invasion | New Earth | Tooth and Claw | School Reunion | The Girl in the Fireplace | Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel | The Idiot's Lantern | The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit | Love and Monsters | Fear Her | Army of Ghosts | Doomsday

Season 3
The Runaway Bride | Smith & Jones | The Shakespeare Code | Gridlock | Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks | The Lazarus Experiment | 42 | Human Nature/The Family of Blood | Utopia | The Sound of Drums | The Last of the Time Lords | Time Crash

Season 4
Voyage of the Damned | Partners in Crime | The Fires of Pompeii | Planet of the Ood | The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poison Sky | The Doctor's Daughter | The Unicorn and the Wasp | Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead | Midnight | Turn Left | The Stolen Earth/Journey's End

Year of Specials
The Next Doctor | Planet of the Dead | Waters of Mars | The End of Time

10th Doctor Adventures (Audio)
Volume 1 | Volume 2

11th Doctor
Season 5
The Eleventh Hour | The Beast Below | Victory of the Daleks | Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone | The Vampires of Venice | Amy's Choice | The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood | Vincent and the Doctor | The Lodger | The Pandorica Opens | The Big Bang | A Christmas Carol

Season 6
The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon | The Curse of the Black Spot | The Doctor's Wife | The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People | A Good Man Goes To War | Let's Kill Hitler | Night Terrors | The Girl Who Waited | The God Complex | Closing Time | The Wedding of River Song | The Doctor, The Widow & The Wardrobe

Season 7
Asylum of the Daleks | Dinosaurs on a Spaceship | A Town Called Mercy | The Power of Three | The Angels Take Manhattan | The Snowmen | The Bells of Saint John | The Rings of Akhaten | Cold War | Hide | Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS | The Crimson Horror | Nightmare in Silver | The Name of the Doctor | The Day of the Doctor | The Time of the Doctor

12th Doctor
Season 8
Deep Breath | Into the Dalek | Robot of Sherwood | Listen | Time Heist | The Caretaker | Kill the Moon | Mummy on the Orient Express | Flatline | In the Forest of the Night | Dark Water | Death in Heaven | Last Christmas

Season 9
The Magician's Apprentice | The Witch's Familiar | Under the Lake/Before the Flood | The Girl Who Died | The Woman Who Lived | The Zygon Invasion | The Zygon Inversion | Sleep No More | Face the Raven | Heaven Sent | Hell Bent | The Husbands of River Song

Season 10
The Return of Doctor Mysterio | The Pilot | Smile | Thin Ice | Knock Knock | Oxygen

Big Finish Specials
The Sirens of Time | The Light at the End | UNIT: Dominion | UNIT: Extinction | UNIT: Shutdown | UNIT: Silenced | UNIT: Assembled | The Diary of River Song Volume 1 | The Diary of River Song Volume 2 | Classic Doctors, New Monsters: Volume 1

Also just for ease of access, here are most of the gifs I've posted over the years in the various threads:

William Hartnell | Patrick Troughton | Jon Pertwee | Tom Baker | Peter Davison | Colin Baker | Sylvester McCoy | Paul McGann | Christopher Eccleston | David Tennant | Matt Smith | Peter Capaldi

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

MENTALLY
DEFEATED


Grimey Drawer

A good thread title

I wonder if we'll finally get an extended version of 12's anniversary scene considering what a stickler Moffat is for continuity.

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

One day, we'll know all the secrets of the skies, and we'll stop our wanderings.


I bring Sutekh's gift of adorable scamp grandpa Bill Hartnell

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto.


I watched Space Museum literally just so I would have context for that GIF. I was not disappointed.

egon_beeblebrox
Feb 29, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.





Me IRL

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!


all-Rush mixtape posted:

THE TOXXUPATION THREAD WITH A VENGEANCE
It's back! Watch in amazement as the forums user currently known as Lick! The! Whisk! puts his writing skills

Or utter lack thereof...

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

I'm gonna go through the first doctor over the next few months in anticipation of the first doctor in the Christmas Special.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe


Capaldi is done? Thank goodness. Now I can begin watching this again.
(Never did take to him)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


Fog Tripper posted:

Capaldi is done? Thank goodness. Now I can begin watching this again.
(Never did take to him)

His last episode will be the Christmas Special this year, from next year the showrunner will be Chris Chibnal and a new actor who is yet to be named as the Doctor. So if you haven't enjoyed the show recently, it'll be a good jumping on point for a completely fresh start.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe


Jerusalem posted:

His last episode will be the Christmas Special this year, from next year the showrunner will be Chris Chibnal and a new actor who is yet to be named as the Doctor. So if you haven't enjoyed the show recently, it'll be a good jumping on point for a completely fresh start.

Yar, I watched everything since the reboot all the way to the first few Capaldi. It felt like he was trying too hard or something. Just couldn't dig it.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

He who fights shitposters should see to it that he himself does not become a shitposter. And if you gaze for long into an anidavatar, the anidavatar gazes also into you.

Fog Tripper posted:

Yar, I watched everything since the reboot all the way to the first few Capaldi. It felt like he was trying too hard or something. Just couldn't dig it.

For what it's worth the most recent season was a huge step up from Capaldi's previous ones, and the new companions were fantastic.

E: Forgot which thread I was in.

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

MENTALLY
DEFEATED


Grimey Drawer

Fog Tripper posted:

Yar, I watched everything since the reboot all the way to the first few Capaldi. It felt like he was trying too hard or something. Just couldn't dig it.

Give this new season a shot. Capaldi was initially hamstrung by some really inconsistent scripts and a forced "am I a good man?" shtick. He's an absolute joy now that he's comfortable in the role.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009


Doctor Who loving sucks!

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

You don't know how lucky you are you're snakes.


Capaldi has some of the best episodes of the revival, including Listen and Heaven Sent, so I'm sad that so many people missed out on him because the first half of his intro episode was a complete and utter mess.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

MENTALLY
DEFEATED


Grimey Drawer

Bicyclops posted:

Capaldi has some of the best episodes of the revival, including Listen and Heaven Sent, so I'm sad that so many people missed out on him because the first half of his intro episode was a complete and utter mess.

His whole first season is an inconsistent mess and the series 9 episodes with Ashildr and the Zygon two-parter are some of the revival's worst. Even the TVIV threads have seen a gradual decline in activity during Capaldi's run. I love the guy and I love 12, but I'm almost surprised he isn't less popular.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Series 8 was better than series 10, and Capaldi's Doctor was more interesting then. Not that series 10 is bad by any means, or that he isn't interesting in it. It's no insult to say "the second best series is better than this"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


Yeah I still really like Series 8, though the first half of Deep Breath really is pretty awful. Series 9 was the problem season for Capaldi in my opinion. It seemed they were going for something all through the season and then they just kind of.... weren't (and that's not even taking into account the deliberate false leads of the Hybrid bullshit). It does have Heaven Sent though which is just a fantastic episode.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

You don't know how lucky you are you're snakes.


There are huge portions of Hell Bent that I like too, it just has a little too much grandstanding on Gallifrey, with literal lines in the sand and whatnot. Clara had a rough beginning and some of the "they hate each other now!" stuff was poorly managed, but I really like the way that she went out.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006



It's a terrible shame that Peter Capaldi was wasted on Stephen Moffat.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

MENTALLY
DEFEATED


Grimey Drawer

Arglebargle III posted:

It's a terrible shame that Peter Capaldi was wasted on Stephen Moffat.

It wouldn't be so bad if this was just a job for Capaldi, but he's clearly a huge fan that loves the role and absolutely deserved better.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014




I like watching Doctor Who and I would watch a new episode every week for the whole year.

I might rewatch the entire revival next, as I have a fuzzy memory of much of the RTD era. I still have quite a few reconstructed stories from 1 and 2 as well (the last one I watched was The Daleks' Master Plan). On top of that I'm going travelling for the next few weeks, and I think I'll take all of the humblebundle audios that I've squirrelled away for a rainy day.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

I rewatched the whole revival right as the last series was about to start, it was p good fun. I even had time to re-rewatch all the Capaldi episodes in time for The Doctor Falls

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


Oh and just as a follow-up from the last thread, everybody was right and Big Finish were quick to fix MY gently caress-up on that volume of First Doctor stories without issue. Big Finish are great.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

You don't know how lucky you are you're snakes.


CommonShore posted:


I might rewatch the entire revival next, as I have a fuzzy memory of much of the RTD era.

That's what I'm doing now. I only sort of half tune in so that I can do other stuff while I'm watching (I still don't know what the Wire's motivation was, really and for the third time, I missed the Werewolf's little speech), and it's been fun.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014




I decided to start with Day of the Doctor, since it was literally the first story I watched and I've only watched it once.

I've already noticed two fanservice easter eggs in the first minute. This will be a radically different experience this time around.

Super Deuce
May 25, 2006
TOILETS
Oh, I like the smell of my own dumps.

As a very casual Doctor Who fan, Capaldi was miles better than Matt Smith, and even better than most of Tenant. Also, Clara is by far the best companion.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Box of Bunnies posted:

I bring Sutekh's gift of adorable scamp grandpa Bill Hartnell



They need to have David Bradley recreate this scene.

Also I'd like to add my 2 cents (or pence? Is that what you guys do?) to this:

quote:

The Companion Chronicles / The Early Adventures
This is important: THESE ARE NOT AUDIO DRAMAS. These are "enhanced audiobooks" for the most part, which means that one person does all the parts while another gives narration, but also contains sound effects and music cues. The Companion Chronicles usually feature just one actor, while the Early Adventures feature small casts.

The original brief with these was they were single hander audiobooks, but as they lines go on they really blur them with multiple cast members and you have guys like Frazier Hines and Peter Purves doing imitations of Doctors 2 and 1 that are pretty drat perfect, so the newer ones are no different than a full cast audio to my ears. There's still the odd narration which I wish they'd give up though.

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

One day, we'll know all the secrets of the skies, and we'll stop our wanderings.


Astroman posted:

There's still the odd narration which I wish they'd give up though.

I like the narration in the Early Adventures line. Makes it feel like one of the audio releases of the lost episodes where they have Peter Purves or Anneke Wills or whoever do linking narration over the off-screen soundtrack recording.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014




Ok here's one continuity error/question in Day of the Doctor-

If 12 participated in the stasis of Gallifrey, how does 11 remember? Wouldn't 12 be the only one who remembers because he's the one farthest down the time stream?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

"I saw Dallas Keuchel....THERE'S A BEARD!!!!!"


Broken Cake

Thanks for the heads up on the Companion Chronicles - I've said it in previous threads, but I'm not a fan of the 'enhanced audiobook' format, so I've kind of got a blank spot in regards to that series.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


CommonShore posted:

Ok here's one continuity error/question in Day of the Doctor-

If 12 participated in the stasis of Gallifrey, how does 11 remember? Wouldn't 12 be the only one who remembers because he's the one farthest down the time stream?

12 takes part in 11's scheme, presumably without showing up and telling 11 he was doing so.

So 11 remembers gathering all the other Doctors and trying to save Gallifrey, but has no knowledge that there's an extra TARDIS in there too. 12 remembers that he popped in to throw in some help just to make absolutely sure it worked, having gotten another few hundred years to perfect the calculations.

Of course the real answer is that it was a complicated delivery system for that amazing,"No sir.... all THIRTEEN!" line

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014




Jerusalem posted:

12 takes part in 11's scheme, presumably without showing up and telling 11 he was doing so.

So 11 remembers gathering all the other Doctors and trying to save Gallifrey, but has no knowledge that there's an extra TARDIS in there too. 12 remembers that he popped in to throw in some help just to make absolutely sure it worked, having gotten another few hundred years to perfect the calculations.

Of course the real answer is that it was a complicated delivery system for that amazing,"No sir.... all THIRTEEN!" line

I guess that makes sense enough (e. meaning sense enough for suspension of disbelief in a patchwork show about time travel) because 11 still isn't confident about how Trenzalore will turn out, and knowing about 12 would confirm for him that he survives and gets more regenerations.

Wolfechu
May 2, 2009

All the world's a stage I'm going through


I don't know the reason for all those missing stories on britbox in the OP, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Terry Nation's estate being arsey?

Box of Bunnies
Apr 3, 2012

One day, we'll know all the secrets of the skies, and we'll stop our wanderings.


Wolfechu posted:

I don't know the reason for all those missing stories on britbox in the OP, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Terry Nation's estate being arsey?

More or less. Or not necessarily arsey, but at the very least incurring extra expense. When the ABC here did a complete run through of the classic series for the 40th anniversary they skipped over all of the Dalek stories because those required separate negotiations with the Nation estate so they just said "gently caress it."

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012


We've got this thing licked!



Well I have now seen the most amazing Doctor Who merchandise ever;

There are little Mr. Men Doctor Who books, titled Dr. One, all the way to Dr. Twelve .

Ephemeron
May 10, 2012

From nothing came teeth.



Arglebargle III posted:

It's a terrible shame that Peter Capaldi was wasted on Stephen Moffat.
And vice versa.

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Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008


Does anybody else have the problem where they've rewatched the revival episodes so many times they've tapped them dry? I guess I could start on the Martha season again.

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