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Zeroisanumber posted:They dismissed the entire training class of FSO's, telling them that they aren't needed. ... I really hope the rubles burn a hole in their pockets. This is insane.
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Zeroisanumber posted:They dismissed the entire training class of FSO's, telling them that they aren't needed. Source?
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so Maddow is reporting fake leaks in her mailbox, the documents were using metadata copied and pasted from the Reality Winner leaks. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/maddow-to-news-orgs-heads-up-for-hoaxes-985491523709
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ManMythLegend posted:Source? Not quite the 'entire training class' (Unless I'm forgetting some other story, which is entirely possible, this is just the one I remembered), but still pretty fuckin' bad. However, it looks like they did reverse this decision after massive protests at State. Christ, everything involving State, and indeed everything else in the Federal government right now, is such a shitshow.
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ManMythLegend posted:Source? quote:While the lack of senior political appointees has gotten a lot of attention, less attention has been paid to the hollowing out of the career workforce, who actually run the department day to day. Tillerson has canceled the incoming class of foreign service officers. Present at the Destruction: How Rex Tillerson Is Wrecking the State Department
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A lot of this is still a consequence of the total clusterfuck that was the Trump Transition and his demand of drat near absolute loyalty for any new hires. Either due to him hating people, or people hating him, he has a kiddie pool's worth of talent to pick from. A classic brain drain, either by choice or by chance.
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He probably told everyone he'd be staying at the Weißes Haus
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facialimpediment posted:A lot of this is still a consequence of the total clusterfuck that was the Trump Transition and his demand of drat near absolute loyalty for any new hires. Either due to him hating people, or people hating him, he has a kiddie pool's worth of talent to pick from. I feel that there might be a quote from a prominent Republican that addresses exactly this ideology. Something about only wanting to make government small enough to drown in the bathtub. If only I could remember it and any pithy, destructive phrases based on it like "starve the beast" that may have become one of the guiding principles of the entire organization.
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A Bad Poster posted:So what you're saying is that work makes you free? I see what you did here and I just want to let you know that I appreciate it
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Supposing we survive this it's going to take years to fix this. It's going to be enough of an effort to dislodge anyone evil and incompetent enough to meet Team Donnie standards. Then they'll have to lure back qualified people who aren't going to trust in the stability of a government job anymore.
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Casimir Radon posted:Supposing we survive this it's going to take years to fix this. It's going to be enough of an effort to dislodge anyone evil and incompetent enough to meet Team Donnie standards. Then they'll have to lure back qualified people who aren't going to trust in the stability of a government job anymore. I'm already picturing the screaming fits of Republicans over each and every Trump crony the new President attempts to purge.
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My personal conspiracy theory is that all of the major components of the Republican platform have been unknowingly corrupted by the Russians playing the long con in an attempt to destabilize the US. For example Republicans want to repeal the ACA. Their proposal is vastly unpopular and is essentially a handout to ultra wealthy at the expense of the entire nation. The Russians support this measure because over the long term it will decrease the readiness of the US Armed Forces. The majority of the Armed Forces comes from the poorer demographics that will be affected most by the change in law. Which means the children that are going to replace us will grow up without health insurance. They will receive less preventative care, are more likely to be obese, and have a much greater chance of having disqualifying pre-existing conditions that prevent them from being able to serve. Poisoning the air and water falls along the same lines. You can look at the desired education reforms in the same light. All of the peer reviewed analysis of the voucher programs, etc, have shown that they have worse outcomes than public schools. The Republicans focus on non-issues like transgender students using bathrooms and prayer in school to distract from them gutting education programs. In return they get a new generation that is a bit dumber than the last and easier to control. As a side effect we end up with a work force that is lacking in education and unable to fill all the technical positions necessary to remain an economic powerhouse. In the past we have supplemented this shortcoming with foreign students and workers. However, with reduced funding to public universities and the strong anti-immigrant sentiment it will become increasingly harder to attract the necessary talent. Even hating the gays is a Russian thing too.
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Or you could just attribute it to the rich and powerful want to be more rich and powerful. If you've lived life without having to worry about others why should you start now that you're a public servant?
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Pence visited NASA and it went about as expected.  
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With all of those artifacts it's hard to tell if that is a shop.
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Caconym posted:Pence visited NASA and it went about as expected. Space travel is a lie, because God lives up there.
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ded posted:With all of those artifacts it's hard to tell if that is a shop. I screenshot and put it on imgur to avoid hotlinking, I should have linked as well. But it's real I'm afraid. https://twitter.com/StephEvz43/status/883210523570917376
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Caconym posted:I screenshot and put it on imgur to avoid hotlinking, I should have linked as well. But it's real I'm afraid. 
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joat mon posted:Is there any evidence out there to support the theory that Trump had to turn to Russia for investment money because he had burned all his bridges with U.S. sources of money? Only his own son saying openly in front of TV cameras, before the presidential run, that a largely disproportionate amount of money was coming in from Russia. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump Jr. said at the time. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." Then there's this: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/eric-trump-russia-investment-golf-course The accusation that he's blackballed from US banks due to his multiple bankruptcies and lovely business dealings was from the Wall Street Journal. Sergg fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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Jul 7, 2017 08:16
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Even if it's not chopped, it says  Do not touch so how are you even supposed to read that. To be fair.
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They should just put a WWII-era pin-up girl on all the parts they don't want Mike Pence to touch or even look at.
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Bunch of rumors swirling around right now that CNN, Washington Post, and others have transcripts of phone calls between Kushner, Bannon, and high-level Russian officials that are super damning and are not running the stories due to the Intelligence Community and Mueller's requests. Right now they're just rumors and I'll believe it when I see it. If it's true then it'll eventually come out in the Mueller investigation anyways.
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If they publish stuff that was intercepted by the IC then they will legit start trying to prosecute the press
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Reverand maynard posted:If they publish stuff that was intercepted by the IC then they will legit start trying to prosecute the press But I thought the news was fake!? 
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I wonder if that's linked to what Maddow just reported. Someone tried to set them up with a forged NSA report directly linking the Trump campaign to Russian electioneering. It also appears to have been produced using Reality Winner's leaked NSA report before that report was actually published, really begging the question of who made the loving thing
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Reverand maynard posted:correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there is actually any law that allows news papers to protect their sources The feds and most of the states have some form of newspaperman's privilege. e: here's a guide by (U.S.) jurisdiction joat mon fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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Jul 7, 2017 10:25
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joat mon posted:The feds and most of the states have some form of newspaperman's privilege. how solid is it though? My understanding is that its more of an unwritten rule than actual laws.
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Like if Washington Post gets leaked damning phone conversations by the IC and publishes it, can Trump have his justice department prosecute them?
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Possibly. Closest analogue I can think of would be the Pentagon Papers, but Nixon didn't try to have the press jailed, they tried an injunction to block publishing which was struck down by the Supreme Court. There's always the hope that you'd get one dude in Congress who enters it into the Congressional Record, in which case, all bets are loving off.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:FSO's... the nation's best and most dedicated talent. I mean, lets not oversell this too much.
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Reverand maynard posted:how solid is it though? My understanding is that its more of an unwritten rule than actual laws. That said, it's not solid, particularly on the Fed side. At best, it's a soft balancing test between the benefits of a free press and and the ability of the government to investigate crimes. Again, on the Fed side, the respect given to the privilege has mostly been driven by the unwillingness of the executive to wreck an understanding and relationship with the press that's always more or less worked. If you have an executive that does not know or care how things work and doesn't know or doesn't care that actions have consequences or effects, things can get really ... interesting.
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I've heard the phone calls and you won't believe what they talk about
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Here's confirmation on the Pence picture, it's from gettyimages: https://twitter.com/passantino/status/883153403290963968 I prefer this version https://twitter.com/darth/status/883148414443167745 And here's the Donnie/Pootie handshake. https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/883284290687184897 
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Man I hope in 50 years or whatever we get to read Russia's internal files on this or someone's been there done that book from their side or something like the Mitrokhin Archive
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I asked in the trump thread and they told me the tapped kushner phone call story originates with Louise Mensch types.
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facialimpediment posted:
Huh and look at that: president bitch boy didn't try to pull his little alpha male yank-shake™ on pootiekins 
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I've said it before, but this is the kind of poo poo that makes me genuinely pissed off. It took loving decades, gallons of blood and sweat, the efforts of some of the best diplomatic minds this nation has ever seen, countless treasure, and a shitton of luck to grant the United States the preeminent position it holds at the top of the world, and these loving morons are pissing it all away for absolutely nothing. Its good to me that the imperialist state is more likely to be destroyed by accident than rightly abolished
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RIP Hamburg Have some riot-media One of the larger demonstrations that got hosed. Cops tried to isolate the black bloc (sp?) duders that were in violation of the anti-disguising/veiling laws, had no success, decided to disperse the demonstration, protesters were not amused, hail of objects ensued, water cannons move in to irrigate some folks at 5:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd6fWPSEeRU Just some casual protesters on their daily way to work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18vgefwPoEI Instagram account with a ton of riot/protest pics https://www.flickr.com/photos/fabianschumann/sets/72157683210507743  
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