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NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

and this time we have a hyper austerity focused government that is also a ok with everything breaking down into roving gangs of fascists!

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

lol if you bought canada house in 2015 you would be rich by now

my friend who bought a house last year already made shitloads of potential $$$ if he sold but he's pretty much going "THIS IS NEW NORM"

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Typo posted:

lol if you bought canada house in 2015 you would be rich by now

my friend who bought a house last year already made shitloads of potential $$$ if he sold but he's pretty much going "THIS IS NEW NORM"

Good thing that housing is such a illiquid asset.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

tech bubble is real but i think it's really centered in silicon valley. ie. if the bubble bursts it's mostly going to affect north california

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

unless state pension funds are being pushed into snapchat stock. i guess anything is possible.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

uber and snapchat are the whales tho

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Karl Barks posted:

unless state pension funds are being pushed into snapchat stock. i guess anything is possible.

problem is that that people will get spooked by it and do stupid crap which will drive the market down further

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
The carbon bubble is a fun fairly far off crash

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Karl Barks posted:

unless state pension funds are being pushed into snapchat stock. i guess anything is possible.

Well the good news is Calpers at least started to rid of their Hedge Fund rip-off deals but still has a fairly large stake in private equity

https://www.reuters.com/article/california-calpers-privateequity-idUSL1N1JG0XQ

quote:

In December, CalPERS announced that it would reduce its private equity asset class from 10 percent to 8 percent of the total portfolio in order to reduce some of the risks in the fund.

Roughly $25.9 billion of CalPERS' $318.9 billion fund was invested in private equity as of April 30.

Private equity is now the only asset class in CalPERS' portfolio with a return forecast above 7 percent over the next decade, making the asset class a vital component to maintaining the fund's assumed return rate of 7 percent by 2020.

CalPERS, along with most public pension funds across the country, has struggled to achieve its investment goals in recent years. CalPERS returned 0.61 percent last year, compared to its assumed rate of return at the time of 7.5 percent.

Pretty hilarious how CalPers did so poorly in what is still bull market and their top level staff get big compensation packages

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Karl Barks posted:

tech bubble is real but i think it's really centered in silicon valley. ie. if the bubble bursts it's mostly going to affect north california

it's mostly startup centers which is like silicon valley and a few other cities but most of those are in places with enough massive tech companies that they could probably absorb the job losses, I don't think all that many people are employed by startups but I don't have any data on this

Microsoft is currently laying off several thousand people but these are mostly overseas sales/marketing people so I think big tech companies will be fine

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

biotech is also an area where there is a probably bubble, i know it's an issue here in boston

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

etalian posted:

Well the good news is Calpers at least started to rid of their Hedge Fund rip-off deals but still has a fairly large stake in private equity

https://www.reuters.com/article/california-calpers-privateequity-idUSL1N1JG0XQ


Pretty hilarious how CalPers did so poorly in what is still bull market and their top level staff get big compensation packages

that's insane - the harvard endowment had something similar, tho it was closer to 2-3% returns. not sure how they're managing to gently caress up that badly in this market

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

https://twitter.com/eliotwb/status/883368037293752320

https://twitter.com/Investopedia/status/879800251829305344

^^ actually this text is confusing, snap is already well below it's ipo price

also dropbox is supposed to ipo soon and that will almost certainly burst into flames

Karl Barks fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jul 7, 2017

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Karl Barks posted:

https://twitter.com/eliotwb/status/883368037293752320

https://twitter.com/Investopedia/status/879800251829305344

^^ actually this text is confusing, snap is already well below it's ipo price

also dropbox is supposed to ipo soon and that will almost certainly burst into flames

the issues is if these stocks crash and burn there's going to be a sell mentality and the market is pretty loving inflated. we might get a small recession from that, or if this also causes an enormous hiring freeze and layoff wave, then things get tricky imo

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Karl Barks posted:

https://twitter.com/eliotwb/status/883368037293752320

https://twitter.com/Investopedia/status/879800251829305344

^^ actually this text is confusing, snap is already well below it's ipo price

also dropbox is supposed to ipo soon and that will almost certainly burst into flames

Pro-tip public IPOs are for rubes since most institutional type money have already locked down a price for their shares far lower than
what Joe Schmoe investor is excited to pay on launch day.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Karl Barks posted:

that's insane - the harvard endowment had something similar, tho it was closer to 2-3% returns. not sure how they're managing to gently caress up that badly in this market

Well Calpers does a active management type strategy for the investment and also for many years put big money in hedge funds even though management fees for such investments always eat
up the overall net returns

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Other than they think regulations are bad why are the republicans getting rid of Dodd Frank

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Jose posted:

Other than they think regulations are bad why are the republicans getting rid of Dodd Frank

via wapo

"The bill weakens the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, for example, and repeals the “Volcker rule,” which restricts big banks’ ability to make risky financial bets. Big banks would face “stress tests” less often to prove they could survive economic turmoil, and regulators' ability to provide oversight of insurance companies or hedge funds would also be curtailed."

basically dodd-frank makes it harder to gamble on securities and steal more money from the poor in ways like the wells fargo fraud case a few months back

their dumb talking point is "it hurts jobs because small banks are burdened by the additional regulation"

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
tech bubble burst when

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Karl Barks posted:

tech bubble is real but i think it's really centered in silicon valley. ie. if the bubble bursts it's mostly going to affect north california

I live over 100 miles east of the bay area and its pushing 350K for a sub 2000sq foot fixer upper. In a place that's at least 45 minutes from a major highway. Kill all tech workers

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Predicting when the next economic crisis will come is like predicting when your grandmother is going to die

You can be consistently wrong for a very long time

but if you keep it up one day you will be right

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

My fav startup was that failed bus transport system Leap

https://vimeo.com/122275278

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
My new startup will replace stoplights with alternative devices with a light gray (platinum) and white (fog) exterior like Apple computers. It will revolutionize how we automate traffic control at city intersections.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

rudatron posted:

Something something, that joe kennedy quote where he says when shoeshine boys are giving stock tips it's time to sell

this is fact, and has aged massively well as a quote ( the existence of shoe shine boys notwithstanding)

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

I think the more modern warning is when all your cube-farm co-workers start believing the stock market is a full-proof way to make money or are talking about getting into house flipping.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

etalian posted:

I think the more modern warning is when all your cube-farm co-workers start believing the stock market is a full-proof way to make money or are talking about getting into house flipping.

yes, and the latter is definitely already happening

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

etalian posted:

I think the more modern warning is when all your cube-farm co-workers start believing the stock market is a full-proof way to make money or are talking about getting into house flipping.

i have to consistently warn my mother against house-flipping, who still thinks its a great idea when you dont have excess capital to fall back on :sigh:

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

anime was right posted:

i have to consistently warn my mother against house-flipping, who still thinks its a great idea when you dont have excess capital to fall back on :sigh:

it really isn't unless you have that excess capital; there is no way of knowing when you won't be able to sell the house because no one is buying

you will be losing money if you time it wrong, and if you have no excess capital you are in deep water

Lindsey O. Graham fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jul 7, 2017

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

clinkle is still the best insane start up story imo

https://techcrunch.com/2015/05/15/clunk/

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
wrong thread

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Theranos was pretty good story as well especially how it had random people like Kissinger and Gen Matthias on the board of directors.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


etalian posted:

Theranos was pretty good story as well especially how it had random people like Kissinger and Gen Matthias on the board of directors.



Dr. Stevie Jobs

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

For the last decade the biggest returns for the Yale Endowment was their private equity investments.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
juicero, but for urban transport

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

logikv9 posted:

juicero, but for urban transport

The Hyperloop project?

gucci bane
Oct 27, 2008



The BRICS economies will save the west through the New Development Bank and other such initiatives.





Thank you BRICS!

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
they have no incentive to do that, and the BRICS are all going to be in trouble themselves

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

My new startup will replace stoplights with alternative devices with a light gray (platinum) and white (fog) exterior like Apple computers. It will revolutionize how we automate traffic control at city intersections.
Finally, someone has the courage to bring new, disruptive designs to public infrastructure

traffic buttons are going to be cut from a single aluminium block

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Actually, thinking about it, the similarities between art deco and apple poo poo is like, uncanny

now it's time for modernism and socialist realism to make a comeback

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Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer
Let's amass technology and form the Brotherhood of Steel. It's the only logical thing that we can do.

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