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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
So I keep seeing stories about Ford and other auto makers racheting down their production. I cannot imagine this is normal. Combined with how many people are going to lose their jobs through the retail collapse I do not imagine this will be good for markets.

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Most people I know going to my school tend to suppport UHC. Although there is a fair amount of ancap assholes in the finance program. Unsurprisingly. Hell most o th epeople in the bible study I attend, and half of them are evangelical protestants support uhc.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Gen Z I think will be a generation that will be largely left wing, but it will have a significant nazi minority that will make up almost 30% of the Whites. So almost 20% of it will be Nazi.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Reality Winner posted:

People stay, corporations reincorporate wherever convenient
You know, what would happen if someone campaigned on bombing the poo poo out the Caymens and Bermuda?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

gradenko_2000 posted:

they would get assassinated

I mean yes, but come one, if you put that as a poll question, you'd probably get half the population supporting that. Oh also campaign on reannexing Panama.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Rhesus Pieces posted:

tbh I doubt they've put much thought beyond the heist part

they know there will eventually be a crash or "correction" and the climate will go tits up so they're filling their pockets and stealing everything that isn't nailed down in preparation for the lean times

They probably also think they can flee to New Zealand. Ignoring that the Labor party there has a resurgent socialist movement, and that National Socialists who hate finance are stealing votes from the conservative party there.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Jose posted:

guillotines seem too time intensive can't we just build a big fire to push them on

This is what i have been arguing.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

etalian posted:

Zuck is not part of any generation, he's a visitor from another world

No, he is of the undead.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

sat on my keys! posted:

Brazen Wall Street Bull

That's iron age.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
I wonder how cheap it will be to build a good tower after this crashes?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Goon Danton posted:

If I remember right, mining involves running the gpu at 100% constantly, which fucks up the card fairly quickly. There was a big problem with this in the used computer market for a while.

I mean in the fact that the demand for this stuff will crash and alot of stores will be left with surplus stuff.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
So many tears on /biz/.



As seen on leftypol.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Acelerion posted:

Heres my contraception app

STOP FUCKIN

That is also the Holy Mother Church's contraception app.


Also, did some banks just put money in to keep it from cratering or something?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

the desire to "consume ethically" is also the intended result of food manufacturer advertising campaigns to push the faults of their industry, particularly pollution, off of themselves and onto consumers

you're not guilty of damaging the environment for buying the cheapest "unethical" tomatoes at the store, the billionaire agricorp is for dumping huge amounts of fertilizer into waterways via runoff


they're successfully tricking you into thinking your consumption habits matter at all for impacting things like pollution or humane livestock handling, when the only actual concrete solutions to problems like that entirely are found within the government regulating the industry not to do those things

Now write this as if Zizek were speaking it.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Made more Leninist.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Ytlaya posted:

The people responsible for both the Great Recession and the upcoming Really Great Recession will live their entire lives with a level of happiness most humans will never know. They will never face any consequences for their actions, and they will live out their remaining years in great comfort and luxury.

This is the way of things.

Are you sure about that?


Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Everyone I would suggest for a great dose of schadenfreude checking out biz on 4chan.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Dairy Days posted:

money can actually quite directly be used buy you all three with desalinization, soil regeneration, and farming of fish so idk what you're on about unless this is some type of anprim death cult

Yeah, the Greens to me are too pessimistic, and there ideas are far too easily used by capitalists to justify horrible austerity on the many.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah this is why I don't trust Greens. You guys basically want genocide.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

The Groper posted:

It isn't genocide if everyone in the world takes part.

The Doomsday economics thread is tanking because we're in a human bubble propped up by zero interest loans from the dawn of time.

Yeah, I suspect they are justextreme pessimists, and trying to make humans not have children is not going to work. Unless you use genocide.

Frankly any revolution will require that Malthusians of all types be sent to Prison Camps, for the very sake of not causing societal panics among the chattering types.

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Feb 7, 2018

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

It's really adorable that you discard what all of our climate and hydrological models keep saying as extreme pessimism because you would rather not think about hard problems.

Prove that the earth can only carry a few hundred million people.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It will be much more possible to conceive of a drastic reduction to "standards of living" when meaningful social relations are restored through socialism. Part of why it's so easy to get lost in our own private worlds and not to think about the larger implications of our own behaviors, is as a result of radical alienation.

Hell its not even our "standard of living. The majority of Americans can't do the damage that the top twenty do with their sububrban life styles. Wnat to change Americans lifestyles? Get rid of the Suburbs.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

Earth can carry 8 billion people. It can't carry 8 billion people with our current resource utilization and our remaining reserves should we continue a business as usual pathway. So what are you wanting me to show again, exactly?
Source on that one. Also has that study been backed up?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Oh yeah, it's pretty easy to abstract resource depletion in a generalized sense while ignoring its class character.

Just think of all of the arable land that's now been made useless laying pipes, cables, asphalt, and concrete foundations for all these neighborhoods. It'd take a massive amount of effort and energy to restore its use for agriculture.



It is why it is a good thing to take part in efforts to change things for the better rather then whine that we're all going to die. Really those who whine about us all dying I suspect just want to take more with them when they pull the trigger.

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Feb 7, 2018

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Stairmaster posted:

question about the billionaire doomsday condos in abandoned missile silos: Aren't they just gonna die in the fallout plume from all icbm fields being carpet nuked?

Yes. Everyone would likely die.




Notorious R.I.M. posted:


It's also important to not have your head up your rear end and to actually understand the scope of changes required to fix things. Because up until now, the casual efforts to change things for the better have just made each subsequent IPCC panel increasingly unrealistic and desperate.

1. Good you actually backed that up. 2. I never questioned whether coasts were in danger. So I don't see why you were bringing it up. 3. I read the article about Cap Town, seems like alot of corruption prevented good solutions to its problems. Something that a revlution could solve, but then that would mean people get to survive. 4. There have been successful efforts to return top soil in Ethiopia, a rather poor nation. So government action can solve this. Also not wanting billions to die doesn't mean one has their head up their rear end, it means they're a functioning human being.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah I think we found our real problem here. Notorious somehow thinks that we can collapse the Earth's population, and force people to go into neopuritanism, but that's because Notorious is a capitalist. Remember how I said that any revolution is going to require prison camps for the Malthusians? This is why. Malthusians just want Capitalism to be even worse.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Oh lol. Wait so I being a socialist already had hindsight to see that systems run on neoliberal models that encourage massive amounts of short term thinking and corruption would inevitably cause droughts. Okay. Yes I just am not as smart as you Malthusian capitalist. Also really no literature at all? Really I think the Malthusian capitalist is just trying to justify a genocide so he can continue capitalism.

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

Capitalism is trash and Earth's population will collapse no matter what we do at this point. Sorry for our loss.

:therapy:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

You didn't solve South Africa's water crisis by starting a socialist revolution. Get a time machine and try again.

:therapy:

Really if you think we're all doomed why not just find someone to help you end what you see is a pointless and wasteful life? I mean you admitted trying to make things better is useless. Really it seems like you need to talk to someone about you're feelings of helplessness. I don't think this internet forum can do it.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

LMAO.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Is there anyway to have a song play at all times in this thread?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
We're almost to 911!

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xyqDUl9jkA

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaTGrV58wec

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
DAX in Australia is also down. Although Nikkei is doing fine.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Acelerion posted:

I few weeks back I was chatting with this guy thats a financial adviser who works with a lot of people that are kind of nouveau riche - primarily folks in the right place at the right time who got their business bought and cashed out for a few million.

He said you would not believe the number 10 millionaires that lose it all trying to keep up with 100 millionaires. People with that kind of cash lose all sense of perspective and might as well live on another planet.

Money is a disease and we must cure it, with GULAG.

Fixed

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

financially racist posted:

gonna laugh myself to an early grave when the banks start failing and trump doesn't bail them out like obama did

He will, look at who makes up his cabinet.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Acelerion posted:

There was a thing a while back where nestle bought (bribed) all the water rights in some south american or maybe african country and then sued people for collecting rainwater

Somehow a ubiquitous bottled drink company manages to be this lovely

I know that happened in Bolivia, lead to Evo Morales in power.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Shear Modulus posted:

whats in the dnd climate change thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKfupO4ZzPs

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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Weeping Wound posted:

I listen to the War Nerd, but exactly when was the last time a country went to war with a corporation? The Mughal Empire and the East Indian Company?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

Yeah I don't think Brazil would stand much of a chance against Blackwater aka Xe aka Academi military contractors.

The guys who get slaughtered by the Houthis?


Also FTSE is off to a good start everybody,.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The favela gangs would eat them alive and wear their bones for Carnival.

As I said, the Houthis. Mercs are great as shows of force, when they come against a committed enemy though they usually become a liability.

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Feb 9, 2018

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
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Goa Tse-tung posted:

so again the Dow loses its poo poo but europe opens up positive, what is going on

Eurostoxx is down a half percent.

rudatron posted:

it a war between nestle vs. brazil, it's the brazilian government that will be defending nestle's Property Rights, from the Unreasonable Expectation on the behalf of the Brazilian people, than the resources of Brazil belongs to them, and not foreign corporations

Going by how "well" both of Brazils neighbors security forces have dealt with internal uprisings I don't see them being able to handle this that well.

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Feb 9, 2018

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