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Rexroom posted:Ability drinks are supposed to make certain abilities easier to get while leveling gears, right? Well, I did just that, and I got just one piece what was supposed to be in the drink. I think the latest theory from dataminers is that drinks set the chance to get that ability to 30%. So you aren't even statistically expected to get a single desired ability per gear you max. And like Lakbay said, couple pieces of gear aren't affected. If you really want to minmax your drink, scrub your gear every time it gets the first level. Expensive tho. At least it also means that you can use your Haunt/Coldblood drinks for the exp bonus and not have to worry too much about ending with just them. Sandwich cakes are great and that sounds delicious.  
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LDE is pretty OP because it's multiplicative with your other gear ability boosts which allows you to stack certain abilities over the max gear cap, but I'm fine with continuing to spread the misinformation about it being bad for ranked modes so that less people actually use it.
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Aug 30, 2017 14:33
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throw to first drat IT posted:I think the latest theory from dataminers is that drinks set the chance to get that ability to 30%. So you aren't even statistically expected to get a single desired ability per gear you max. And like Lakbay said, couple pieces of gear aren't affected. Do the drinks still give you XP bonus on items that don't get the ability chance? 'Cause if so, I'm gonna use some on the splatfest shirt. What do Haunt / Cold Blooded drinks do though? Aren't those main-only abilities?
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Aug 30, 2017 15:36
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raditts posted:Do the drinks still give you XP bonus on items that don't get the ability chance? 'Cause if so, I'm gonna use some on the splatfest shirt.
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Aug 30, 2017 15:40
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Yes you'll always get bonus gear xp regardless of the flavor
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Aug 30, 2017 15:41
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raditts posted:What do Haunt / Cold Blooded drinks do though? Aren't those main-only abilities? They should and those don't probably actually exist, I didn't think very long about examples for bad drinks. Just drink everything. I'm glad that it's not in the game like that, because having some rear end in a top hat just death touch you across the map is Splat1 specials level of bullshit. They probably should have just scrapped it, it's design means that it can never really be good. 
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Aug 30, 2017 15:44
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raditts posted:Is Ink Resist worth it in this game? I remember it was almost essential in Splatoon 1 until they nerfed it so far as to almost be negligible. I was watching a pro discuss Ink Resist, and he stated that for shooter weapons like the Tentatek 3 subs of ink resist are worth it for the damage reduction from standing in enemy ink. Apparently 3 subs do not give you a mobility boost in enemy ink the same way 1 Main would but the damage reduction is very much worth it. Past that he stated more Ink Resist is not worth it in his opinion, and he'd rather run Swim Speed in it's place.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:02
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Bill Barber posted:LDE is pretty OP because it's multiplicative with your other gear ability boosts which allows you to stack certain abilities over the max gear cap, but I'm fine with continuing to spread the misinformation about it being bad for ranked modes so that less people actually use it. It's pretty strong as a general boost. However, I speak from experience when I say you shouldn't try to use LDE in a build that's specifically trying to hit interesting ink usage thresholds, like being able to throw two splat bombs at once.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:39
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I wanna make a build that can throw 3 Burst bombs, how many sub Saver ticks or whatever the term would be, do I need to hit that threshold? Like how a main counts for 10 and a sub for 3, etc.
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Aug 30, 2017 16:55
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I googled it and it's 7 subs (21 points)
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So a main + 4 subs or two mains and 1 sub. I can manage that.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:08
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Yeah, if you're using LDE, it's really more of a perk that's nice to have. You absolutely do not want to rely on it or deliberately trigger it. If you do want to pull that off, just go with an Ink Saver ability instead.
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Aug 30, 2017 17:41
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Dr. Fetus posted:Yeah, if you're using LDE, it's really more of a perk that's nice to have. You absolutely do not want to rely on it or deliberately trigger it. If you do want to pull that off, just go with an Ink Saver ability instead. Does it only trigger in ranked if your opponent's timer/distance drops below 30, or does it also trigger when your team's does?
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I'm thinking I'm gonna grab the ink savers, since I'm pretty sure LDE is the default on the 18k aviators, so it's not gonna be too hard to switch back if ink saver turns out not to be my jam.
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bizarre deformity posted:Does it only trigger in ranked if your opponent's timer/distance drops below 30, or does it also trigger when your team's does? It's only their score. So if you can hold them off after that happens, you'll have a good advantage for the rest of the battle. It's a good effect, but you do have to keep in mind that outside of those conditions, you essentially have no ability slot. It's not something you want to deliberately trigger, and it's something that's just nice to have if you can't think of any other abilities you want more.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:22
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Also, people should consider Comeback. It does what Last-Ditch Effort does (more than a main of Ink Saver Main and Sub), and also what Opening Gambit does (more than a main of Run and Swim Speed Up), and also increases your special generation (more than a main of Special Charge Up), for 20 seconds after every death. If you're a particularly conservative player or you have other specific needs, it may not always be the best choice, but I think goons underrate it hugely.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:35
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Comeback is on all of my sets since I die a lot, I assume goons don't talk about it since they're splatoon gods who don't die a lot vvvvvvvvvvv lol Lakbay fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 18:36
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I die a lot but there's something philosophically I can't vibe with about an ability that depends on my failure to be helpful
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Aug 30, 2017 18:39
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I have no idea how long the bonuses from comeback work for so I have zero interest in using it. That kind of information should really be provided by the game.
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Aug 30, 2017 18:43
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The issue with Comeback is that you're basically placing a lot of faith in getting a lot of meaningful deaths in your matches. Dying in Splatoon 2 is very costly and it's something you really want to avoid unless you can splat several members of the other team or advance the objective significantly in the process. If you're getting a lot of stupid deaths, or just can't get the upper hand in firefights, I don't think it would help that much. On the other hand, if you're an active player that can accomplish a lot in your matches, it would certainly be worth considering. Obviously not dying at all is more ideal, but it's an unrealistic expectation to have. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:The issue with Comeback is that you're basically placing a lot of faith in getting a lot of meaningful deaths in your matches. Dying in Splatoon 2 is very costly and it's something you really want to avoid unless you can splat several members of the other team or advance the objective significantly in the process. If you're getting a lot of stupid deaths, or just can't get the upper hand in firefights, I don't think it would help that much. Right. The value of Comeback isn't in intentionally activating it (it's obviously better to kill the enemy without dying), in the same way that you shouldn't deliberately trigger the conditions for LDE to start working. If you're playing well, then what it does is tilt trades in your favor: you are likely to get back into the fray faster, and you'll retain a reasonably strong combat bonus with your mobility and ink bonuses for 10-15 seconds once you get back. When your team is already ahead and in control of the map, it becomes harder for the other team to dislodge yours. And if your team is sucking, well, you get the bonuses a lot.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:03
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Zoran posted:If you're playing well, then what it does is tilt trades in your favor This is a good way of looking at it and I might trade LDE for it.
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Aug 30, 2017 19:08
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Doesn't comeback only activate if you died without splatting anyone since your last death or am I thinking of another ability/making up poo poo? Also, given the nature of Splat Zones where the first team who caps the zone tends to win a vast majority of the time, it seems Opening Gambit might be good for this mode. Can anyone speak on this? I don't even own gear with OG/LDE but recent conversation has been making me think about getting some. Big Nubbins fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Aug 30, 2017 |
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Aug 30, 2017 19:24
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You're thinking of Quick Respawn, Comeback always activates after every death
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Aug 30, 2017 19:30
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My friend just brought his Callie and Marie amiibo over and when I scanned them they only gave me the head pieces. I beat the single player and I'm level 18 so do I need to do anything specific to get the rest? Maybe I need to wait a day.
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hey welcome to the show! posted:My friend just brought his Callie and Marie amiibo over and when I scanned them they only gave me the head pieces. You need to scan them and then play a certain # of games to unlock the gear and songs.
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OK, thank you! Any idea how many matches it were I can find that number? I came here to ask because the internet wash weirdly useless when it came to this.
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hey welcome to the show! posted:OK, thank you! Any idea how many matches it were I can find that number? I just scanned it, got the head piece, saved an outfit to it and scanned it again and I got all the stuff.
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OK thanks
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 I have climbed all the way to level 50. Fashion show time!  This is my general close-to-medium-range shooter outfit. I go a little heavy on the bomb defense because it's generally useful in ranked; five subs lets you barely survive two direct burst bombs, so going a tiny bit beyond that seems like a good stopping point.  Here's the counterpart to that first set with object shredder; useful if I'm taking something that does less than 30 damage per hit. I'll be replacing the subs on the shoes with ink resistance.  This one's an amusing gimmick build meant to abuse Splashdown after respawning and to look good with the Hero Shot.  If I'm going to take an N-Zap, Splattershot Jr., or Tri-Slosher, I'll tend to swap to my Special Charge Up bandana. I'll try to get it to pure special charge eventually.  The longer-range shooter set. Since I'm usually playing farther back and zoning out the enemies, Tenacity is more useful here. I'll give the shirt either bomb defense or swim speed, I think.  Object Shredder version of the same. OS isn't critical here because almost all the long-range guns break Ink Armor in one hit, but it still has some utility if I feel like using it. Subs on the shoes will become Main Saver.  Burst Bomb spam set; the jacket will get Sub Saver subs, as 19 points of Sub Saver is very nearly enough to throw out 3 burst bombs instantly with a full tank (you have to swim for like ten frames to get the last one out).  Splat/Suction/Curling Bomb spam set. Two mains and five subs of Sub Saver give you double bombs. The hat will get two of those subs and one sub of Bomb Defense, which by itself is just enough to survive two grazes from Inkjet blasts. The shoes will get Ink Resistance.  Alternate version of the same bomb spam set, this time with Run Speed shoes.   And then here are the aggressive and the stealthy brush outfits. The black Ninja Squid sweater will get pure swim speed; on the white one I haven't decided whether I'd prefer maximum speed or better ink management.
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Gimme a good build to use with the Classic Squiffer. I'm finally getting a feel for it and might make it my main, but want to know good abilities for it beyond the usual useful stuff (run, swim speed up). What's some good stuff to consider?
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Aug 30, 2017 21:59
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God drat man
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I just use whatever clothing I haven't levelled up yet
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I just bought this game yesterday, mostly because the OP made it sound like an absolute riot. Is there a bunch of stuff I should learn before getting into it, or can I just start painting things? Like, is the effort post a few posts up something I should try to figure out, or will it just come with time? *Note* I never owned a Wii U and so know nothing about Splatoon 1 or 2. I'm essentially entirely blind
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Jade Mage posted:I just bought this game yesterday, mostly because the OP made it sound like an absolute riot. Is there a bunch of stuff I should learn before getting into it, or can I just start painting things?
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Aug 30, 2017 23:45
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Bill Barber posted:Just play.
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It starts with an unskippable tutorial, plus you can play the single player a bit to practice the basics if you're having trouble.
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Yeah the game is designed to just roll it out for you the more you play so just check it out
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Jade Mage posted:I just bought this game yesterday, mostly because the OP made it sound like an absolute riot. Is there a bunch of stuff I should learn before getting into it, or can I just start painting things? Gyro controls. Live them, learn them, love them. (Los Angeles)
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