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| Brock vs Joe |
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25 | 27.78% |
| Roman vs Braun |
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15 | 16.67% |
| Seth vs Bray |
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1 | 1.11% |
| Alexa vs Sasha |
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10 | 11.11% |
| Iron Man Tag Match |
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9 | 10.00% |
| Enzo vs Big Cass |
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7 | 7.78% |
| The Miz vs Ambrose |
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3 | 3.33% |
| Neville vs Tozawa |
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20 | 22.22% |
| Total: | 90 votes | ||
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Feels Villeneuve posted:They put Braun over massively tonight OP yeah having him walk away from literally being murdered came off like a huge babyface turn
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Jul 10, 2017 04:59
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Braun basically beat the poo poo out of Roman and looked better than him, then Roman did something idiotic and basically beat himself, then Roman got furious about losing fairly and he stole a vehicle and then attempted to murder Braun using that vehicle. I mean it probably isn't a double turn but it sure doesn't feel like Roman was booked as a face. And the commentary didn't bend over backwards to justify it, as they usually would for faces.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:59
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Cardboard Box posted:he's been doing really good in-ring work for a while now lol
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Jul 10, 2017 04:59
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i knew i could count on you
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Jul 10, 2017 05:00
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He's doing so bad that he's turned Braun into one of the biggest stars in the company.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:00
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Like seriously do you think Braun would be getting these reactions if he was in a feud with like, Seth Rollins or Bray Wyatt or some poo poo
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Jul 10, 2017 05:01
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Like seriously do you think Braun would be getting these reactions if he was in a feud with like, Seth Rollins or Bray Wyatt or some poo poo this has very little to do with his ring work i feel
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Jul 10, 2017 05:02
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Like seriously do you think Braun would be getting these reactions if he was in a feud with like, Seth Rollins or Bray Wyatt or some poo poo it's like how batista made roman into a beloved face
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Jul 10, 2017 05:02
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Ever since Heyman laid out his promo outline on Austin's podcast I can see it in every promo he does and it has become immensely boring and cookie cutter
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Jul 10, 2017 05:02
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I want to be excited about Braun, and I would like to think they'll treat Joe differently after this. But they won't. And we all know it. Braun is just the long Roman feud, and Joe was the "heh, check this out SMARKS" opponent that Vince likes to jerk around every now and then. Both will be back in the shuffle. Neither will matter come Wrestlemania. As always, this is the WWE's opportunity to make me eat my words. But they won't take it, because they are the WWE.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:03
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Intruder posted:Ever since Heyman laid out his promo outline on Austin's podcast I can see it in every promo he does and it has become immensely boring and cookie cutter No but see HE'S THE BEST TALKER IN THE COMPANY.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:04
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Samoa Joe rules
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Jul 10, 2017 05:08
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They had Roman go over Taker cleaner and easier than pretty much anyone in history 4 months ago to close out Mania (Brock comes close but I figure that match would have been much more competitive if not for the concussion,) does anyone actually believe that Braun isn't going to be soundly beaten on Raw sometime in late July/early August to set Roman up for Brock at Summerslam
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Jul 10, 2017 05:08
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Like seriously do you think Braun would be getting these reactions if he was in a feud with like, Seth Rollins or Bray Wyatt or some poo poo On the other hand, if Braun was feuding with someone else, he most likely would not be booked the same. I bet crowds would enjoy a monster that repeatedly beats the poo poo out of an upper-carder and tips them over in an ambulance and throws tiny wrestlers into garbage bins. But if he was feuding with, say, Rollins, I doubt they'd dedicate that much time and effort to him. Does Roman deserve credit for the fact that Braun gets way more time to be built as a threat because the company devotes more effort to things involving Roman?
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Jul 10, 2017 05:09
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SamuraiFoochs posted:No but see HE'S THE BEST TALKER IN THE COMPANY. He is. Being stuck with Brock isn't doing him any good though.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:09
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SamuraiFoochs posted:No but see HE'S THE BEST TALKER IN THE COMPANY. Paul Heyman on his worst night puts more emphasis and vitriol into his promos than like half the loving roster on both shows. You know this, man. He's phoning it in, but in sheer ability he is definitely the best talker in the company even if he's underutilizing it. A dude who has the ability to be great but currently isn't because of lovely booking is still a better talker than somebody who is just flat out bad, like Roman Sufferin' Succotash Reigns.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:10
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I think Miz is a better talker than Heyman. Cena too.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:11
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I think Miz is a better talker than Heyman. Cena too. I also think Joe is a really underrated talker and maybe one of the top 5 in the company.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:12
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I think Miz is a better talker than Heyman. Cena too. they're also given more to talk about than just how great their client brock lesnar is
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Jul 10, 2017 05:12
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I'll give Roman this much: with the infuriating way that the company has been booked completely around him to make him look strong for the past few years, I have built up enough searing hatred for him that he could get clowned on every night for the next decade and it would continue to entertain me. I enjoy watching him be made to look stupid.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:12
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Cabbit posted:Paul Heyman on his worst night puts more emphasis and vitriol into his promos than like half the loving roster on both shows. You know this, man. He's phoning it in, but in sheer ability he is definitely the best talker in the company even if he's underutilizing it. Better than Roman, what a high bar And Roman is a lot better than he used to be
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Jul 10, 2017 05:13
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Intruder posted:And Roman is a lot better than he used to be Intruder posted:Better than Roman, what a high bar
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Jul 10, 2017 05:14
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tweet my meat posted:I'm kinda new to wrestling in general so I still don't entirely get the hate for Roman, all I've seen of him (mostly the strowman feud) has been pretty fantastic. Did you hear the part where the crowd got muted when Roman came out? That's the reason.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:14
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Roman Reigns is fine. He should be in a spot for a fine talent, someone like a Christian or Luger - a guy who can have credible, decent-to-good quality matches with mid and upper card talent and can occasionally hold a top belt for a transition period or during a time where the real top guys need time to rest or heal injuries. He's not in that spot. He's in the Hogan spot. He doesn't lose, except when there are shenanigans, and when he loses he can act whiny and petulant and give the heel his comeuppance for the crime of winning a match, and his music plays and you're supposed to cheer and let him pose and strut and always be seen as above anyone who stands in his way. It's not working, it hasn't worked, it will continue to not work, and nobody in the company cares.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:18
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Bumper Stickup posted:Nah Miz has always been uninteresting to me. Have never understood why anybody likes him. i quoted this to yell at you and now in finally getting to the post show and you are so wrong it's amazing the miz is loving amazing how can anyone dislike the miz? he is the best pure heel in the wwe aha watch him just poo poo talk renee after the show
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Jul 10, 2017 05:19
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Yeah if there was one thing I thought when watching Braun/Roman it was "nobody cares about this match"
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Jul 10, 2017 05:19
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seriously PM me i will not fite you IRL but argue with you that the miz is awesome because i love him
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Jul 10, 2017 05:20
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Cabbit posted:Paul Heyman on his worst night puts more emphasis and vitriol into his promos than like half the loving roster on both shows. You know this, man. He's phoning it in, but in sheer ability he is definitely the best talker in the company even if he's underutilizing it. I never said Roman's a better talker than Paul. I said Paul is doing lazy and/or repetitive poo poo that doesn't entertain me and I'm literally as bored if not more bored of it than Roman which is really damning. Exact same goes for Brock v. Roman on the wrestling front..
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Jul 10, 2017 05:21
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Do it ironically posted:i quoted this to yell at you and now in finally getting to the post show and you are so wrong it's amazing the miz is loving amazing he's a terrible wrestler is how
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Jul 10, 2017 05:22
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CubsWoo posted:He's not in that spot. He's in the Hogan spot. He doesn't lose, except when there are shenanigans, and when he loses he can act whiny and petulant and give the heel his comeuppance for the crime of winning a match, and his music plays and you're supposed to cheer and let him pose and strut and always be seen as above anyone who stands in his way. did hogan ever do something on par with roman murdering braun
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Jul 10, 2017 05:23
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The Miz's original blowup at Bryan on Talking Smack was the best promo of the decade.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:24
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Raskolnikov38 posted:did hogan ever do something on par with roman murdering braun murdered the giant
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Jul 10, 2017 05:25
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Bill Goldberg posted:he's a terrible wrestler is how his wrestling has improved the last year plus a lot and i know it's stealing danielson's moves but it works and he does it well as a heel and here's an unpopular opinion. Dean has been phoning it in since the shield broke up and the fact miz can have a half decent match with him is amazing, no one can say dean is putting any effort into any match he got carried by AJ/Cena/Miz at smackdown come at me
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Jul 10, 2017 05:25
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Miz does real well with these semi real life jealousy angles, probably because they're real. Too bad they have to be paired with garbage Dean Ambrose matches. They also have a limited shelf life.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:30
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miz is an average wrestler. he's had bad matches, he's had surprisingly really good matches, he's had a million matches that were just there.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:30
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Cardboard Box posted:miz is an average wrestler. he's had bad matches, he's had surprisingly really good matches, he's had a million matches that were just there. he's had a million matches with wrestlers who were just there so that checks out
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Jul 10, 2017 05:31
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Cardboard Box posted:miz is an average wrestler. he's had bad matches, he's had surprisingly really good matches, he's had a million matches that were just there. he was an average wrestler now he's above average but he's the best promo in the wwe and the older i get the more i like the soap opera poo poo and i only expect decent wrestling at ppv events and even then the big ppv events, did you see how lovely lesnar/joe was tonight?
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Jul 10, 2017 05:33
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Front facebusters suck rear end. He needs a new finisher.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:35
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Do it ironically posted:he was an average wrestler now he's above average but he's the best promo in the wwe and the older i get the more i like the soap opera poo poo and i only expect decent wrestling at ppv events and even then the big ppv events, did you see how lovely lesnar/joe was tonight? oh yeah he's a great promo. no denying that.
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Jul 10, 2017 05:36
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the miz has been around for like 15 years and hes never going to get better in the ring
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Jul 10, 2017 05:37
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