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I'm all for Qe8.
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Aug 18, 2017 16:47
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The worry with Qe8 is if they counter Re7, making any taking of their pieces a death sentence for our queen. It does give us the time to then play Qa4 and save our knight, but that feels like ceding the middle of the board to our opponents. Voting Nb5, although I'm not too sure where to go from there. Also, this mucks up the new voting gubbins: before my vote we had enough votes to proceed, and now I feel like I'm holding things up by voting this way.
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Aug 18, 2017 18:52
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Cloud Potato posted:The worry with Qe8 is if they counter Re7, Phoneposting, but isn't this checkmate? Qc8+ and then Bxc5 either checkmates or sends the king down the a column, to suffer the most humiliating fate: checkmate by pawn.
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Aug 18, 2017 20:08
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Cloud Potato posted:The worry with Qe8 is if they counter Re7, making any taking of their pieces a death sentence for our queen. It does give us the time to then play Qa4 and save our knight, but that feels like ceding the middle of the board to our opponents. Voting Nb5, although I'm not too sure where to go from there. Don't feel too bad about this. If there are any holes in the plan, it would certainly be a good move to let us know. Fat Samurai posted:Phoneposting, but isn't this checkmate? Qc8+ and then Bxc5 either checkmates or sends the king down the a column, to suffer the most humiliating fate: checkmate by pawn. Here's a diagram of what happens if they Re7 and we Qc8:  Only 2 legal moves the King can make there. Kxa7 or Kb6.  Kxa7 leads to a Checkmate for us once we go Bxc5, so they probably won't be doing that move.  If they go Kb6, this would be the move they are eventually forced to make once we go Bxc5. So yeah, Re7 isn't a death sentence for our Queen.
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Aug 18, 2017 20:31
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I'm sold on Qe8 mostly because I think at this stage losing that rook hurts them more than losing our knight. also for as long as our queen is on 8 that bishop is pinned. If they move either of the two back pieces from our queen in 8 they will lose one and probably both. oath2order fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Aug 19, 2017 |
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Aug 19, 2017 00:42
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Like, look at the board from here with Black to move. The ideal situation for us is the following. ka6 Qc8+ Ka7 bxc5+, bxc5 Qxh8. At that point they have a bishop and 3 pawn, with our queen basically able to capture those pawns at will. At that point they may well just forfiet. They won't even easily be able to capture a pawn from that postion. And frankly, most of the paths you run with this work as similar variations. In any case, with our queen at 8 we essentially paralyze the remaining enemy forces.
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Aug 19, 2017 00:53
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Why do I get the feeling we're missing something here? Did we catch the idea that they may move their pawn instead of their rook? Are there any other moves that they can make that could potentially continue the procrastination? They might be stumbling onto something that could turn the tables on us, we have to be decisive, but not hasty.
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Aug 19, 2017 04:31
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I don't think so. Qe8
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Aug 19, 2017 09:41
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 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4 4.Bb5+ c6 5.dxc6 Nxc6 6.Nf3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Qd7 8.0-0 e6 9.c4 0-0-0 10.Be3 Qc7 11.Rd1 e5 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Nc3 h5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Nb5 Nxe5 16.Qf5+ Qd7 17.Nxa7+ Kb7 18.Rxd7+ Rxd7 19.Qxe5 c5 20.Qe8 Black has 24 hours to decide on a move.
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Aug 19, 2017 12:10
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 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4 4.Bb5+ c6 5.dxc6 Nxc6 6.Nf3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Qd7 8.0-0 e6 9.c4 0-0-0 10.Be3 Qc7 11.Rd1 e5 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Nc3 h5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Nb5 Nxe5 16.Qf5+ Qd7 17.Nxa7+ Kb7 18.Rxd7+ Rxd7 19.Qxe5 c5 20.Qe8 Rd1+ Your king is in check! You have 24 hours to decide on a move. (since you only have one legal move, I will be calling the vote after 1 vote)
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Aug 20, 2017 16:41
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Why throw your rook away like that? Strange. Rxd1 seems like the best idea to me. Edit: Current Lichess link.
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Aug 20, 2017 16:51
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 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4 4.Bb5+ c6 5.dxc6 Nxc6 6.Nf3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Qd7 8.0-0 e6 9.c4 0-0-0 10.Be3 Qc7 11.Rd1 e5 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Nc3 h5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Nb5 Nxe5 16.Qf5+ Qd7 17.Nxa7+ Kb7 18.Rxd7+ Rxd7 19.Qxe5 c5 20.Qe8 Rd1+ 21.Rxd1 Black has 24 hours to decide on a move. Covski fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Aug 20, 2017 16:54
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And why is the board upside down, now?
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Aug 20, 2017 17:37
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bman in 2288 posted:And why is the board upside down, now? Black have ragequit
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Aug 20, 2017 18:01
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Literally flipping the table.
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Aug 20, 2017 18:04
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I believe Rxd1 is in fact our only legal move.
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Aug 20, 2017 18:18
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So are we controlling Black now? King to a7+ in that case. Might as well do some damage before we go.
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Aug 20, 2017 19:56
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 Did they just give us a Rook for free? There was that sword dangling over our heads with that Rook and the h8 Rook if they were able to get that Bishop out of their way, but that's gone now.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:06
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Whoops, got my screenshots mixed up! It's fixed now.
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Aug 20, 2017 21:59
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 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4 4.Bb5+ c6 5.dxc6 Nxc6 6.Nf3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Qd7 8.0-0 e6 9.c4 0-0-0 10.Be3 Qc7 11.Rd1 e5 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Nc3 h5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Nb5 Nxe5 16.Qf5+ Qd7 17.Nxa7+ Kb7 18.Rxd7+ Rxd7 19.Qxe5 c5 20.Qe8 Rd1+ 21.Rxd1 Kxa7 You have 24 hours to decide on a move.
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Aug 20, 2017 22:05
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Alright, so I think the time is right to start setting up that Checkmate. So how should we be going about this? Bishop to c5 would definitely set a check, but do we want to do that yet? That will force their King to move, and our Queen is still in play.
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Aug 20, 2017 22:12
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I believe the correct move here is Qc8. That strongly limits the moves they can make with the king.
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Aug 20, 2017 22:34
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We can go Rd7 and force checkmate with our Rook and Queen in a few moves I think.
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Aug 20, 2017 22:45
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Dr. Fetus posted:
Maybe they are giving up in the most passive aggressive way possible? Anyway, chekmate in 3 moves. 22. Rd7+, doesn't matter where their King goes. 23. Qb8, again, doesn't matter what Black does. May or may not be a check. We don't care. 24. Qb5+. Checkmate. 25. Yaaaaay!!! Here is some random crap text to make this longer. To the pub!! 26. Getting drunk to celebrate, like the best chess masters do. My vote: Rd7+, mate in two
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Aug 20, 2017 22:47
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Yeah, ok that works. changing my vote from Qc8 to Rd7+. This game is ogre.
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Aug 20, 2017 22:54
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Current Lichess link.Dr. Fetus posted:Alright, so I think the time is right to start setting up that Checkmate. So how should we be going about this? Bishop to c5 would definitely set a check, but do we want to do that yet? That will force their King to move, and our Queen is still in play. Covered by their bishop. Fat Samurai posted:Anyway, chekmate in 3 moves. Seems to hold up. Voting Rd7+, and voting to continue this plan for the next two moves. Let's see what they do.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:11
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Cloud Potato posted:Seems to hold up. Voting Rd7+, and voting to continue this plan for the next two moves. Let's see what they do. Rd7+ and the following two moves if we can vote for them in advance?
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Aug 20, 2017 23:22
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Fat Samurai posted:I like the way this thread thinks. looks like you were off by 3.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:23
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Rd7+ it is, then!
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Aug 20, 2017 23:25
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Rd7+
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Aug 20, 2017 23:46
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Alright, let's end this. Rd7+
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Aug 21, 2017 00:43
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It is now, in the closing days of the Great War, that I believe our greatest blunder was in trusting in the competence of the Black Team.
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oath2order posted:It is now, in the closing days of the Great War, that I believe our greatest blunder was in trusting in the competence of the Black Team. Did we have too much love, or did they not have enough? Rd7+, by the way.
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 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4 4.Bb5+ c6 5.dxc6 Nxc6 6.Nf3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Qd7 8.0-0 e6 9.c4 0-0-0 10.Be3 Qc7 11.Rd1 e5 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Nc3 h5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Nb5 Nxe5 16.Qf5+ Qd7 17.Nxa7+ Kb7 18.Rxd7+ Rxd7 19.Qxe5 c5 20.Qe8 Rd1+ 21.Rxd1 Kxa7 22.Rd7+ Black has 24 hours to decide on a move.
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Aug 21, 2017 12:22
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oath2order posted:looks like you were off by 3. I consider them giving us their rook a surrender, which is almost like a checkmate 
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 Black resigns! Final position: 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4 4.Bb5+ c6 5.dxc6 Nxc6 6.Nf3 Bxf3 7.Qxf3 Qd7 8.0-0 e6 9.c4 0-0-0 10.Be3 Qc7 11.Rd1 e5 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Nc3 h5 14.dxe5 Ng4 15.Nb5 Nxe5 16.Qf5+ Qd7 17.Nxa7+ Kb7 18.Rxd7+ Rxd7 19.Qxe5 c5 20.Qe8 Rd1+ 21.Rxd1 Kxa7 22.Rd7+ 1-0 Well played! Please join us back in the main thread! 
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