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Shammypants
May 25, 2004

STOP BEING MEAN TO DEMOCRATS YOU GUYS

I had a dream once that Nintendo paid stardew creators to make a sequel called "Mario Valley" and it was basically an updated mario universe version of the game and it owned

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Mr. Locke
Jul 28, 2010


You don't want the old DKC aesthetic. The game wasn't that great looking in 1994 outside of the marvel that something at some point possibly made of of polygons was here on the Super Nintendo and not look like it's made of juice boxes, and there aren't many games time and hindsight has been less kind to. You'd be much better off just leaving it to memory and just having whatever beautiful upgrade your nostalga has given it be what you remember.

If they want to revisit old DKCs for remakes, I'd much rather they let Retro have at it or do something more stylized then try to recapture a visual style of actual poo poo molded into the shape of a gorilla smeared with Vaseline.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013


Wretched Harp

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica...742214060118016

a.lo
Sep 11, 2009



link doesnt talk or ever eat cereal

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



a.lo posted:

link doesnt talk or ever eat cereal
Haha somebody never combined milk + cereal in botw

inferis
Dec 30, 2003



Anyone play fate extella? Is it as good as hyrule warriors?

caldrax
Jan 21, 2001

i learned it from watching you

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Fallout 4 was cross gen wasn't it? If so shouldn't have any problems running on Switch.

Because no one answered this: no, it wasn't, PS4 and xbone only. It may look ugly but there is miles more detail going on than Skyrim, I highly doubt they've got it even close to running on a Switch.

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007



College Slice

Mr. Locke posted:

You don't want the old DKC aesthetic. The game wasn't that great looking in 1994 outside of the marvel that something at some point possibly made of of polygons was here on the Super Nintendo and not look like it's made of juice boxes, and there aren't many games time and hindsight has been less kind to. You'd be much better off just leaving it to memory and just having whatever beautiful upgrade your nostalga has given it be what you remember.

If they want to revisit old DKCs for remakes, I'd much rather they let Retro have at it or do something more stylized then try to recapture a visual style of actual poo poo molded into the shape of a gorilla smeared with Vaseline.

Yeah, SMW2: Yoshi's island's art style has aged much better than the DKC trilogy. Now that's a game that would be perfect for Switch

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Monk make thee?

The DKC games kind of only look good at the exact resolution they were rendered in.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 26, 2007




a.lo posted:

link doesnt talk or ever eat cereal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5tkAUNFa4

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



Tropical Freeze is one of the best-looking sidescrollers there's ever been and it's weird to say "no I don't want that, I want hi-def models pre-rendered into low-resolution sprites".

The SNES DKC games imagined the future of 3D graphics by jury-rigging them onto a 2D system. Now that the future of 3D graphics is actually here, that vision can be (and has been) reproduced directly in real-time. It's not really a "lost style" like some of the other pixel art of that era, it's a style that still exists now in better fidelity.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus



inferis posted:

Anyone play fate extella? Is it as good as hyrule warriors?

Are you a fan of the Fate franchise? Do you have a high tolerance for anime storytelling? If the answer to these questions is no, that might be a problem.

I've been playing it and having a lot of fun, but I have to admit it doesn't quite hold up to Hyrule Warriors. It doesn't have the insane amount of content of HW's adventure mode. You can only lock onto bosses, not any of the mid-strength enemies, which is a constant annoyance throughout the game. The levels aren't traditional Warriors-style open fields with capturable areas, there's just the capturable areas floating in the void and you travel directly between them (although having said that, these areas are larger and more varied in shape and layout than the simple small squares of HW). And there's not much in the way of scripted events during gameplay - the win condition is always the same (capture enough territory to make the big boss appear, kill the boss), with only a small number of levels having any departures like "capture these specific areas to weaken a boss" or suchlike. It does have a nice variety of playable characters with some cool combos to pull off, the combat is fun aside from the lock-on problem, and the system they have with some areas being worth more "territory points" than others adds a unique twist not present in HW, but it might still feel a little spartan compared to that game. In terms of game mechanics, anyway. If we're talking about story, I hope you're ready for half an hour of dialogue or more in between each level

If you are a Fate fan then there's plenty here to interest you, with four main story routes and a collection of side missions for each playable character. If you've played Fate/Grand Order and thought "what's the deal with this Altera character, I'd like to learn more about her" then this is the game for you. If you want to run around clowning on mongrels with Gate of Babylon then knock yourself out.

Also a sequel was just announced which they're saying will have improved gameplay mechanics, plus all the characters from the first game in addition to new ones, so if this doesn't sound appealing then maybe keep an eye out for the next one instead

baram.
Oct 23, 2007

smooth.


Grimey Drawer

did stardew get a date at the nindies thing

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!


Extella might be the only non-KT Musou-style game I've played that actually holds up to the formula.

Also, the territory system is not unlike the one in Gundam Musou.

s.i.r.e.
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


So I took the plunge and ordered one of those shell kits for the Switch and it looks absolutely great, but holy hell it's a massive pain in the rear end to do. Seriously, disassembling the Joycons loving sucks and putting them together is an exercise in frustration.





This took me around 2 hours to do.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus



Now that I think more about it, "not having as much content as Hyrule Warriors" isn't necessarily that big a downside, I never even came close to beating all of adventure mode before I got tired of the game

baram.
Oct 23, 2007

smooth.


Grimey Drawer

i really want the clear shell but it only has colors on the dpad buttons and the abxy are gray which is the stupidest thing ever.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002

Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.


s.i.r.e. posted:

So I took the plunge and ordered one of those shell kits for the Switch and it looks absolutely great, but holy hell it's a massive pain in the rear end to do. Seriously, disassembling the Joycons loving sucks and putting them together is an exercise in frustration.





This took me around 2 hours to do.

I really want to do this with a clear shell instead but I dread actually unscrewing and loving with the internals.

s.i.r.e.
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I really want to do this with a clear shell instead but I dread actually unscrewing and loving with the internals.

It's a nightmare, you'll need tweezers for the 4 or 5 tiny rear end ribbon cables on each Joycon. Not only that, but once you get the back off there's another plastic piece that houses the battery and shoulder buttons which is screwed into the front plate. I thought I'd just be able to open it, rip out the guts and swap the shells but it's literally easier to detach everything and rebuild it. There's also like 9 screws per Joycon.

wuggles
Jul 12, 2017



Tropical Freeze is one of the best games I've ever played and if they ported it to the Switch with no changes I'd buy for $60. (I sold my Wii U.)

The only sidescroller aesthetic I prefer is Rayman Legends hand-drawn look, but I know at least one person here doesn't agree.

(Oh, and Gunvolt. Gunvolt looks and feels great.)

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002



Pillbug

rogue wave posted:

League of Evil was always my loving jam on my iPhone back in the day. I think it will be great on the Switch and will gladly purchase it again at $7. Anyone tried it here yet?

It was also my loving jam and it's still a good jam. I wish the other two episodes were included but at least there's a level editor now.

The old LoE games haven't been updated for 64-bit on iOS so I guess this'll be it.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004



GreenNight posted:

Zero. Play your other games, it's gonna be the same price for quite some time. Not going anywhere.

njsykora posted:

Somewhere between 0 and never.

Bongo Bill posted:

Nintendo games take years to drop in price, even if they're bad, which that one isn't.

SeANMcBAY posted:

It's an Ubisoft game so maybe it's more possible. I don't see being discounted for at least a year though.

njsykora posted:

I think it being a Mario game trumps it being a Ubisoft game for price drop purposes.

Thanks. Update: I'm buying the XCOM rabbids game.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



i am looking forward to Golf Story a lot. also every other nintendo game

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!


I have a complaint about the """"""perfect""""""" Nintendo Switch console.

It's not as easy to take both joy-cons out of the system at once when it's docked like the videos made it seem

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Can someone who didn't like Mario vs Rabbids weigh in and tell me why I shouldn't buy it? I try to avoid goon hype but I'm really close to buying the game at this point and worried I'll regret doing it

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001





angel opportunity posted:

Can someone who didn't like Mario vs Rabbids weigh in and tell me why I shouldn't buy it? I try to avoid goon hype but I'm really close to buying the game at this point and worried I'll regret doing it

Just go for it if you like srpgs. You putting yourself in the ky cage here

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005


how many worlds are there in mario rabbit

Zore
Sep 21, 2010



shrike82 posted:

how many worlds are there in mario rabbit

4

cheese sandwich
Feb 9, 2009



angel opportunity posted:

Can someone who didn't like Mario vs Rabbids weigh in and tell me why I shouldn't buy it? I try to avoid goon hype but I'm really close to buying the game at this point and worried I'll regret doing it

I found it really simple and I was a bit underwhelmed by it. I may have gone in with really high expectations because of everything I'd heard before I bought but it's probably just not for me. If you're not familiar with it maybe watch some YouTube videos or something because this poo poo really isn't cheap.

I put disgaea down because I was feeling a bit overwhelmed by the options and it's inspiring me to pick that back up.

e: also it's a mario game that doesn't let you jump

cheese sandwich fucked around with this message at Sep 2, 2017 around 01:42

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!



The worlds aren't short by any means though. There's like 10 chapters in each world

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I'm high speed, low drag; Oscar Mike to be OP in the AO, in the deepest, most tactical Black Ops Multiplayer to date.


Evil Fluffy posted:

There are far too many twitter replies from grown men hoping for this to be a game based off of what looks like an anime aimed at very young kids. I'm afraid of googling more about it for fear of finding out it has fans that make bronies and obsessive middle-aged Harry Potter fans look normal.


This may come as a surprise, but every cartoon from Japan that isn't pornography is aimed at minors.
It's just a bog standard "hero's journey™" at an all-girl's boarding school anime, albeit one with American network and Netflix support.

And Honey Comb is stale insulation foam, even from a newly opened bag. I will fight you.

Post is the 32X in-store brand of cereal manufacturers.

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at Sep 2, 2017 around 01:52

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!


Oh my gosh I completely missed this when I watched at E3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zH-Rhdj5Wc#t=309s

The dude is SO HAPPY HE'S CRYING at Miyamoto pointing him out and thanking him. LOOK AT THAT. He's clearly passionate as hell and loving Miyamoto is praising his work and it's overwhelming him! Buy Mario Rabbids and support this good man please

5:09 if the video doesn't send you to the right part automatically

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006



s.i.r.e. posted:

So I took the plunge and ordered one of those shell kits for the Switch and it looks absolutely great, but holy hell it's a massive pain in the rear end to do. Seriously, disassembling the Joycons loving sucks and putting them together is an exercise in frustration.





This took me around 2 hours to do.

Wow that's pretty. Might have been a pain to do, but the results look worth it.

Does it feel as sturdy as the original shells?

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006



Macaluso posted:

Oh my gosh I completely missed this when I watched at E3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zH-Rhdj5Wc#t=309s

The dude is SO HAPPY HE'S CRYING at Miyamoto pointing him out and thanking him. LOOK AT THAT. He's clearly passionate as hell and loving Miyamoto is praising his work and it's overwhelming him! Buy Mario Rabbids and support this good man please

5:09 if the video doesn't send you to the right part automatically

As entirely lovely as reality has become over the past year, this was a genuinely earnest moment.

creationist believer
Feb 16, 2007



College Slice

Supercar Gautier posted:

Tropical Freeze is one of the best-looking sidescrollers there's ever been and it's weird to say "no I don't want that, I want hi-def models pre-rendered into low-resolution sprites".

The SNES DKC games imagined the future of 3D graphics by jury-rigging them onto a 2D system. Now that the future of 3D graphics is actually here, that vision can be (and has been) reproduced directly in real-time. It's not really a "lost style" like some of the other pixel art of that era, it's a style that still exists now in better fidelity.

Also, the idea of DKC graphics was sort of done in the New Super Mario Bros Wii U/Mario Maker tile set with prerendered sprite graphics... and, it was alright, the level design was good but the graphic design didn't do anything special. Contrast that with Sonic Mania or Shovel Knight which highlight the best parts of the graphic styles of Genesis/NES games, and throwing away hardware restrictions that made the games look worse, like resolution, screen width, ROM storage for frames of animation, layers of parallax scrolling, simultaneous sprites on one horizontal layer, etc.

DKC looked amazing at the time, and sort of captured the imagination of "look how good 3D games in the future will look, and you're playing a great preview of it now!" But now when better 3D models can be rendered with more frames of animation and dynamic lighting and higher resolution, the future is already here, we don't need a new game showing a vaseline covered view of the future.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 26, 2007




cheese sandwich posted:

I found it really simple and I was a bit underwhelmed by it. I may have gone in with really high expectations because of everything I'd heard before I bought but it's probably just not for me. If you're not familiar with it maybe watch some YouTube videos or something because this poo poo really isn't cheap.

I put disgaea down because I was feeling a bit overwhelmed by the options and it's inspiring me to pick that back up.

e: also it's a mario game that doesn't let you jump

Mario and everyone else jump all the time actually

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Does Stardew Valley on PC have fun mods? I'd like to play Stardew on Switch but my policy is to play on PC if there's a strong modding community (eg: Minecraft) or if it's a Bethesda game where you need the debug console just to get out of jams that the bugs put you in.


what's uproot

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

little witch academia is alright. it isn't the second coming like some people make it out to be, but it's inoffensively entertaining

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004



DKC Returns looks great and Retro are among my favorite developers but it's very hard to forgive them for giving Donkey Kong teeth.

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angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

cheese sandwich posted:

I found it really simple and I was a bit underwhelmed by it. I may have gone in with really high expectations because of everything I'd heard before I bought but it's probably just not for me. If you're not familiar with it maybe watch some YouTube videos or something because this poo poo really isn't cheap.

I put disgaea down because I was feeling a bit overwhelmed by the options and it's inspiring me to pick that back up.

e: also it's a mario game that doesn't let you jump

How far in did you get before you decided this? Did you just stop playing entirely and don't plan to play anymore?

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