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irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda



Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Guys, this isnt the vita thread. You donít have to pretend to be excited about anime games, because there are actual good games on the Switch.
The Switch is anime now.

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Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002



speaking of, is Xenoverse any good? I am trash at fighters but I like Dragonball and have heard good things

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix? We just don't know.



Buglord

Axel Serenity posted:

speaking of, is Xenoverse any good? I am trash at fighters but I like Dragonball and have heard good things

It's not really much of a fighter. It's more of a DBZ character creator with some arena fighting on the side.

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002



Improbable Lobster posted:

It's not really much of a fighter. It's more of a DBZ character creator with some arena fighting on the side.

Cool. On the one hand, this sounds fun, but on the other hand, it sounds like Pokken Tourny is the way to go if I wanna punch mans with my money

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007

THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT I REALLY AM
*stumbles on reload and dies to a Nightstalker Super during Quick Play*


XB2 might be less cringy to play, especially around my friends or family, if they could have maybe resisted the urge to not slap that giant pair of tits on one of the main characters.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

DAMN, THAT MUST BE KOOPA. I'M SURE IT'S ALSO HIM WHO'S TAKEN THE PRINCESS AWAY. OK, LET'S GO GET HIM TOGETHER!


Pillbug

Giant tits are a proud Xenoblade tradition

THE FUCKING MOON
Jan 19, 2008


There's nothing wrong with big tiddies but yeah cheesecake is cheesecake

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

The second part of the Zelda DLC is this month right? and we still know almost nothing about it?

AlBorlantern Corps
Mar 4, 2017

In brightest day,
In darkest dim,
No tool man shall I broker him,
Let those who shout 'More Power' grim
Heed my call, I don't think so Tim


I would not mind if they delayed it.

I don't think it was this month though, it was just late 2017

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

MZ posted:

Nintendo hasn't had a stage at E3 for years.

Nintendo doesn't need a stage at E3 for other companies to talk about what they're going to make for it.

Quest For Glory II posted:

I actually think the look of XB2 is fine but the combat/UI looks like a total mess

This is my concern. XCX showed that their idea of a complex, layered combat system can actually end up being really loving tedious and annoying. XC2's system seems to take that to another level... and another level after that.

There needs to be an option to make the Blade NPCs disappear during combat because having half your party stand there channeling just looks so bizarre.

Octopath Traveller I was hyped for even before the Demo, but now? Inject that directly in to my veins.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Guys, this isnt the vita thread. You don’t have to pretend to be excited about anime games, because there are actual good games on the Switch.

They're good games, Brent-kun

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the Direct of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame the joy of Sakurai?

GreatGreen posted:

XB2 might be less cringy to play, especially around my friends or family, if they could have maybe resisted the urge to not slap that giant pair of tits on one of the main characters.

lol this reminds me of people who said they were "too embarrassed to play Dragon's Crown or Bayonetta in front of my wife." Everyone somehow played Nier Automata just fine despite the main characters explicitly being boring lolita Realdolls.

Motto posted:

They seem to have burned all the goodwill XB1 generated at this point, so I wonder how long until monosoft sells badly enough for Nintendo to either sell them or turn them fully into an asset farm.

Pretty sure this rarely happens at Nintendo but if anything would have tanked the series it would have been XCX. Metroid's not the most profitable series they have either but that didn't stop them from making more, even after Other M.

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014



XCX didn't sell that badly for a Wii U title, and it reviewed fairly well, so I'm not sure what "good will" they've allegedly burned up.

Devoyniche
Dec 21, 2008


Al Borland Corp. posted:

I would not mind if they delayed it.

I don't think it was this month though, it was just late 2017

I thought it was December something? Like a few weeks before, or the week of Christmas? I get why they wouldn't make it a Christmas thing but I just thought that was the time it was coming out.

Honestly I didn't know Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was coming out in December, I thought it was Spring 2018. So Im kind of out of the loop. XBC2 doesn't look that great but Im kinda amped for non-lovely non-indie RPGs to be on there so Im excited. Im super hyped for Octopath Traveller. Setsuna, and that other one, they both kinda suck, like, a lot. It's a rehash of FFX with Chrono Trigger elements, and a boring story and setting, but changing the story and setting doesn't make it any better, you know?

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008



Is there any concrete information regarding the Switch Online Service in general or the "Classic Game Selection" in particular?

Alfalfa The Roach
Oct 13, 2012

You need to be a badass first.


Hot take: Xenoblade 2 will be better than Persona 5

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010



DLC Inc posted:

lol this reminds me of people who said they were "too embarrassed to play Dragon's Crown or Bayonetta in front of my wife." Everyone somehow played Nier Automata just fine despite the main characters explicitly being boring lolita Realdolls.

If your wife can't appreciate Bayonetta or Nier you shouldn't have married her anyway

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

Clunk! Clunk! Clunk!



DLC Inc posted:

lol this reminds me of people who said they were "too embarrassed to play Dragon's Crown or Bayonetta in front of my wife." Everyone somehow played Nier Automata just fine despite the main characters explicitly being boring lolita Realdolls.

When people say that about Bayonetta I always think they are weirdos because Bayonetta is one of the few games that handles that stuff with enough snark that it totally gets away with it imo.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006



There's various factors that contribute to whether cheesecake works well or just comes off as alienating. I think Bayonetta works because it's kind of holistic in its design, everything about the game's aesthetic and narrative and feel ties back to the character's self-assured persona, so having her be very sexually confident ends up as a natural fit with that. Xenoblade 2 is more like, "here's a general fantasy game but also some characters are jerkoff material", which I think comes off much more dissonant and insulting.

Also Bayonetta looks like an adult and the XB2 gal doesn't.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

Bayonetta is campy, it's balls to the walls ridiculous in every way

the XB2 titties are just the bad kind of anime


e: I basically just said the same thing already said but in a worse way didn't I

Your Computer fucked around with this message at Nov 3, 2017 around 17:39

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

DLC Inc posted:

lol this reminds me of people who said they were "too embarrassed to play Dragon's Crown or Bayonetta in front of my wife." Everyone somehow played Nier Automata just fine despite the main characters explicitly being boring lolita Realdolls.
The Sorceress from Dragon's Crown was loving egregious.

(but I played dwarf so I totally would have played it in front of any hypothetical woman )

Zore
Sep 21, 2010



DACK FAYDEN posted:

The Sorceress from Dragon's Crown was loving egregious.

(but I played dwarf so I totally would have played it in front of any hypothetical woman )

I looked up Dragon's Crown and the wiki trivia for this character did not disappoint

quote:

The sorceress is a necromancer with large breasts. In Vanillaware games, necromancers have large breasts. It is speculated that this is because the motif is characters who give life to the dead. The functional purpose of breasts is to provide milk for children, to give life. So, instead of using the traditional old men from fantasy settings, Vanillaware characters are young looking, well-endowed women, such as Odette from Odin Sphere and Opalnaria Rain and Lujei Piche from Grim Grimoire.[1]

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

$$ Pffft, what do squids know about spending money? $$



Grimey Drawer

Dragon Age had a bad case of the titty monster as well

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012



They should put odin sphere remastered on the switch

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Was dragons crown the one that had like a shopkeeper or something laying down with her tits jiggling or something? Bayonetta rocks but anime porno is embarrassing if you're brain isn't complete mush hth.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Zore posted:

I looked up Dragon's Crown and the wiki trivia for this character did not disappoint


The best part of it is that when Jason Schreier was like "this sorceress art is awful" the artist, who is also the president of Vanilliaware, replied by saying "It seems that Mr. Jason Schreier of Kotaku is pleased also with neither sorceress nor amazon. The art of the direction which he likes was prepared." and posting a picture of three burly shirtless dwarves on Facebook.

It was one of the most offensively tone-deaf rude things I've ever seen.

warning kotaku link but lol

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

Clunk! Clunk! Clunk!



I should have mentioned that Bayonetta is a massive outlier in that dept in that it has enough style self awareness to pull it off. the only other game that comes to mind that actually gets away with it imo is Catherine. Anime titillation is definitely an embarrassment.

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006



Lipstick Apathy

Fuckin lol at trying to read into Dragon's Crown's art and add meaning. Dude who draws stuff for Vanillaware just likes big ol titties.

Electromax
May 6, 2007
trying to resist the fear

Who is too embarrassed to play Bayonetta but not blowing off skirts in Nier? Feels like you'd end up on the same side of the fence in both cases there.

I don't care either way but I skipped all the cutscenes in Bayo 1+2 and the gameplay itself isn't as suggestive as all that, the "naked under hair" thing is hard to parse with all the other particles on screen. Even stuff like Quiet in MGSV gave us more chuckles at the stupidness of the poses and stuff than Bayo did.

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke


i cant understand why anyone is surprised by embarassing amounts of rear end and tits being the norm in anime games. thats what anime is, friends. well that and obsessions with sexed up children

is the switch the perfect place for jerking it to cartoons? i dont know, but i cant wait to jerk my joycons off in the next installment of no more heroes

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?



Gumdrop Larry posted:

Fuckin lol at trying to read into Dragon's Crown's art and add meaning. Dude who draws stuff for Vanillaware just likes big ol titties.

Big tits and buff dwarves

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Anime is good

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the Direct of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame the joy of Sakurai?

Alfalfa The Roach posted:

Hot take: Xenoblade 2 will be better than Persona 5



I'm sad Vanillaware hasn't announced anything for Switch. Muramasa on the Wii felt like an outlier, I'd love to play that on Switch instead of the loving Vita

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009



Alfalfa The Roach posted:

Hot take: Xenoblade 2 will be better than Persona 5

I believe it.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007

THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND ME OF WHAT I REALLY AM
*stumbles on reload and dies to a Nightstalker Super during Quick Play*


Supercar Gautier posted:

There's various factors that contribute to whether cheesecake works well or just comes off as alienating. I think Bayonetta works because it's kind of holistic in its design, everything about the game's aesthetic and narrative and feel ties back to the character's self-assured persona, so having her be very sexually confident ends up as a natural fit with that. Xenoblade 2 is more like, "here's a general fantasy game but also some characters are jerkoff material", which I think comes off much more dissonant and insulting.

Also Bayonetta looks like an adult and the XB2 gal doesn't.

Exactly. Bayonetta's sexual aesthetic works within the context of the game, and plus she's a grown woman.

XB2's characters are mostly kids/late teenagers, and their sexualization comes off as just an excuse for some japanese incel character designer to slap big tits and rear end and exposed gently caress-me-underwear on everything for no reason. It's out of place and context, and because the game already has an anime slant, it's double creepy. Not to mention the vast majority of the game is just going to be wandering through cool looking fields and caves, so the overt sexuality comes off as even more out of place.

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013

I commute by bike!


DACK FAYDEN posted:

The best part of it is that when Jason Schreier was like "this sorceress art is awful" the artist, who is also the president of Vanilliaware, replied by saying "It seems that Mr. Jason Schreier of Kotaku is pleased also with neither sorceress nor amazon. The art of the direction which he likes was prepared." and posting a picture of three burly shirtless dwarves on Facebook.

It was one of the most offensively tone-deaf rude things I've ever seen.

warning kotaku link but lol

that same article was updated to mention the artist saying it wasn't supposed to be some big own and apologizing for being rude

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010



The only good anime is phoenix wright Nintendo please release phoenix wright switch attorney

acksplode
May 17, 2004




The Colonel posted:

that same article was updated to mention the artist saying it wasn't supposed to be some big own and apologizing for being rude

I don't think it undercuts the point of the article when the guy who says the rude thing apologizes after a social media backlash.

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke


acksplode posted:

I don't think it undercuts the point of the article when the guy who says the rude thing apologizes after a social media backlash.

nah, he really didnt mean it guys. honest. please continue to buy our games

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005

Clunk! Clunk! Clunk!



That was actually pretty funny though.

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