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This show is so drat good! I wasn't expecting Kakegurui and Made in Abyss to have a rival for best of the season but this certainly is one. An interesting thing I just read was that episode 1 was titled "Case 13" and this episode was "Case 1". A good way to keep a timeline and let watchers know when an episode takes place if they're going to be jumping around a lot. Reddit's also managed to get most of the text on the note at the end. Fantastic twist at the end. It would be cool if the two's motive really was to somehow end up as Queen in the end. Its probably something less sinister though. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Wasn't 'spy games at an all-girl's school' a plotline in Foyle's War or something? Or one of those other mystery series the BBC churns out like Japan does isekai light novels at any rate. Not with the radioactive magic engines obviously, but one of you must know the show I'm thinking about. Can't think of the name and it's driving me crazy.
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Jul 16, 2017 19:53
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I'm very happy that Princess is secretly vying for the throne and enlists the help of these spies to become Queen. I feel like that adds a lot to her character
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Jul 16, 2017 23:00
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Alfalfa The Roach posted:I'm very happy that Princess is secretly vying for the throne and enlists the help of these spies to become Queen. I feel like that adds a lot to her character But is she? The end of the episode makes that sound like an excuse.
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Jul 16, 2017 23:09
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:But is she? The end of the episode makes that sound like an excuse. It's unclear, but we could look at it both ways. Even if it was ultimately useful for their purposes, Ange didn't order her to say that. Maybe she either wants it for herself or at least feels it would be a fair thing to ask for Ange's sake. In any case, I also like that she was so proactive about it. wielder fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jul 16, 2017 |
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Jul 16, 2017 23:46
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Her old friend THAT IS ACTUALLY THE PRINCESS.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:54
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If nothing else, it at least makes it feel a little less silly that the princess is a part of the spy team, both that she's not next in line and that she forced her way in. That gives me a good feeling about this show.
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Jul 17, 2017 00:58
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Sindai posted:Where did you get that from? The note she passes to Princess is signed Charlotte and Princess calls Ange Charlotte at the end. Normandy calls Princess Charlotte.
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Jul 17, 2017 01:26
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Holy poo poo guys this is a big twist and some of you MISSED it? It was signposted twice, once subtly and literally said at the end of the episode!
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Jul 17, 2017 01:29
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Holy poo poo guys this is a big twist and some of you MISSED it? It was signposted twice, once subtly and literally said at the end of the episode! I blame being spoon-fed plot and minimal critical thinking over the years 
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Jul 17, 2017 01:50
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Holy poo poo guys this is a big twist and some of you MISSED it? It was signposted twice, once subtly and literally said at the end of the episode! I had to have someone confirm it before I was sure. Considering the gravity of it, it seemed pretty casually revealed.
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Jul 17, 2017 02:06
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Oh hell yes, it really is like a le Carre story with anime girls. The head of the agency is even named Control...or that is the name of the agency i'm too tickled by the main twist to remember exactly. In any case: good poo poo. e: also  
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Jul 17, 2017 02:15
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yup anime of the season
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Homura and Sickle posted:yup anime of the season  Dorothy ended up stealing this episode with scenes like this one.
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Jul 17, 2017 03:50
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op owns, has the show progressed enough where the principal part makes sense
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Gamerofthegame posted:op owns, has the show progressed enough where the principal part makes sense It already makes sense, if perhaps being a bit redundant with princess. From Google: prin·ci·pal ˈprinsəpəl/ adjective: principal 1. first in order of importance; main. "the country's principal cities" noun noun: principal; plural noun: principals 1. the person with the highest authority or most important position in an organization, institution, or group.
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Gamerofthegame posted:op owns, has the show progressed enough where the principal part makes sense Principal is the codename for the main team  There's another team codenamed "Wall" that hasn't appeared on screen so far, probably because it's not made up of cute girls 
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For the record, Cavorite is a direct lift from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comics. Like, it even looks identical. Technically, it originally showed up in HG Wells's 'The First Men in the Moon', but the look and the armada of Cavorite-powered battleships are all LXG. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Tamba posted:There's another team codenamed "Wall" that hasn't appeared on screen so far, probably because it's not made up of cute girls Seems like it's not even codenames really, just that in addition to the main team there's another one responsible for stuff related to the literal wall separating east/west Anyways, this show is really good so far.
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Myself and a buddy picked this show up not expecting much. Actually, we were expecting a trainwreck. Cut girls doing spy things? How could it possibly be good? Well, we're onboard now and we really, really want to set a Spirit of the Century campaign in Walled London.
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Darth Walrus posted:For the record, Cavorite is a direct lift from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comics. Like, it even looks identical. Ah! Thank you, i knew i knew it from somewhere, but forgot to actually do a drat search for it.  
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this show is smarter than i'd thought it would be. a rather rare thing for anime oh but the artstyle for the girls doesn't work at all Davincie fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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Jul 17, 2017 18:06
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I love the plotting on this show. Operation Changeling was (presumably) a plan by the West to replace the East's Princess Charlotte with their agent Ange who someone realized looked just like the Princess except for her hair....because no one but the two themselves realize that Ange and Charlotte had already switched places years ago because of that similarity! Also, when you look back at it, all the times Princess tells Beatrice to shut it because Ange is "disrespecting" royalty has added meaning when you realize that Princess knows who the real royalty is! All that said I''m not sure I've ever seen a show whose ending credits are more at odd with the actual contents of its show!
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Jul 17, 2017 21:30
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Oh, I finally get it. The title of this show makes more sense as "Principal Princess" but that sounds worse as a title. Best not to think about it though, a la Attack on Titan.
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Jul 17, 2017 21:46
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All of this is smoke and mirrors to hide the true discovery of the century. It's a psychological phenomenon revolving around the ability of heirs of the royal blood to effect massive change: The Princess Principle.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Holy poo poo guys this is a big twist and some of you MISSED it? It was signposted twice, once subtly and literally said at the end of the episode!
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to steal someone elses screenshot, they hinted at it earlier too
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Jul 18, 2017 00:29
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The best part is They've probably got a greater power behind her! (turns out the greater power is Ange, best spy 2017). If you wanted some good spy shenanigans, this is it. This does right literally everything Joker Game did wrong.
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Holy molly the amount of small details this show has in just the first episode. Eric's gun still had the rounds inside it, she was lying to him there too. I thought she was using her own pistol in that scene
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Jul 18, 2017 03:43
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I love shows where events in later episodes let you go back and watch from the beginning with a whole different interpretation of what you thought you saw. That this is doing so from the second episode is fantastic.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Holy molly the amount of small details this show has in just the first episode. Eric's gun still had the rounds inside it, she was lying to him there too. I thought she was using her own pistol in that scene I noticed that too, and that's when I decided this show might be something special
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Do you think they ever tell Beatrice about the switch? It would be needlessly cruel of them not to, and I doubt it would change her feelings towards Princess anyway.Cao Ni Ma posted:Holy molly the amount of small details this show has in just the first episode. Eric's gun still had the rounds inside it, she was lying to him there too. I thought she was using her own pistol in that scene That scene was one of the best climaxes to an episode I've seen in a long time.
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Man, I liked episode 1 well enough but episode 2 was something else. That's an incredibly good episode 2 twist right there, it basically changes the entire story of that episode and it throws doubts on what's been built to be the premise of the show. It was good stuff. Also, i'm glad this thread is full of people smarter than me because I completely missed this bit from episode 1. jng2058 posted:She was a plant for the Enemy. We saw a couple of the Duke's agents leave just as Ange and Alice are showing up. Ange spotted the girl in the next bed perk up when Alice was talking to Amy about Eric, so she knew the girl was a plant and dealt with her with the (probably) morphine she stole from the nurse they passed. I hope the show keeps it up with the neat touches and I guess sorta subtle story telling? Subtle's probably the wrong word but I like how it's expecting the viewer to be paying attention.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:
Later in the episode you see the same girl on the enemy team, with her neck bandaged.
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Tamba posted:Later in the episode you see the same girl on the enemy team, with her neck bandaged. I thought it was a different girl because I wasn't paying attention when she got drugged. I thought there was something up with that girl but I didn't put two and two together.
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great ep but i only expect greater when they introduce chise
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Space Flower posted:great ep but i only expect greater when they introduce chise 
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Gave this a try because all the talk on the Summer thread, goodness gracious was not disappointed. That was a great way to introduce a major new plot element, just demurely laying their cards on the table and letting the audience work it out themselves.
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Davincie posted:this show is smarter than i'd thought it would be. a rather rare thing for anime Yeah the first episode was kind of shaky but I liked the second one. Davincie posted:oh but the artstyle for the girls doesn't work at all I also wish they were a little more adventurous with their visual designs.
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I missed out on Senko no Night Raid/Night Raid 1931, and any other intelligence operative/spy series that weren't ACCA, so this is such a huge refreshing breath of fresh genre air that it's freaking palpable. Is it just me or have there been no good spy series in recent years other than the above?
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