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Ok. I'll be voting lurkers until they are all gone.
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Jul 18, 2017 19:47
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Yorkshire Tea posted:So who here hasn't actually played FF4? I'm pretty sure I played it. But that was over two decades ago and I don't remember anything.
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Jul 18, 2017 20:53
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##vote flerp
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Jul 18, 2017 21:00
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I don't think I played that.
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Jul 18, 2017 21:12
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What is dead may never die.
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Jul 19, 2017 03:43
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CCKeane posted:Incorrect. I have a six sided cube, made of dinosaur bone marked with pips. Pictures or it didn't happen.
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Jul 19, 2017 04:43
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Hal Incandenza posted:Man I hate this vote, what is wrong with you Hi Hal, what's up?
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Jul 19, 2017 19:49
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Yeah, at the end of the day my vote will be on the worst lurker as I posted pregame. I'll keep doing that until no one is lurking or the game is over. (barring solid evidence of someone's scumitude causing me to branch out) Should be relatively easy to not be a lurker in this game judging by the amount of posts thus far, so hopefully the lurkers step it up.
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Jul 19, 2017 21:40
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Hal Incandenza posted:Kinda lame IMO Eh. I keep trying to let it go and I keep getting burned in the games I play by lurking scum. I'd rather just do this for awhile in my games until the lurking problem improves in SA Mafia or at least the scum lurkers are forced to start posting in games I'm in. Worst case scenario, town loses because the scum in the game were actually forced to post, but if they are posting, they might be caught by the people playing normally so it will all work out.
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Jul 19, 2017 22:30
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Hal Incandenza posted:My issue is twofold. One you aren't taking any ownership of what you do which is inherently scummy especially as you say you are willing to do it multiple days. It is inherently alignment neutral since I announced it before I had an alignment. I actually even announced it before this game existed. At the end of my last game. As I said in that game to MMT, if it gets scum to post a lot of quality things to keep them out of my lurker sites, then my mission is still accomplished. And no, for me, lurking can be poo poo posting too. I'm not making it just a post count only thing, although that is often enough.
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Jul 20, 2017 00:30
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Mithross posted:Infinitum has been replaced by BottleKnight. I'm sorry you replaced into a scum role BK. 
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Jul 20, 2017 00:30
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I'd still take them down. While this is technically true, this is such a rare thing that it is mostly not something we have to worry about. But for me, if they've a small number of solid effort posts(cases/alignment calls on several people/etc) then I no longer have to vote them for just lurking, I can evaluate them on content and that is even better.
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Jul 20, 2017 00:34
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BottleKnight posted:drat, kb is so good at mafia he can tell inf was scum based on these posts alone It's because he replaced out, not because of his posts. But mostly I'm just being funny.
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Jul 20, 2017 00:35
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BottleKnight posted:why does flerp have 3 votes Apparently I'm a trend setter. ##vote CCKeane
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Jul 20, 2017 00:37
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CCKeane posted:I like how we are four pages in and the conversation is about HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE LURKERS. Is this angry scum Keane who is upset that a couple people are voting him for the wrong reason?
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Jul 20, 2017 01:24
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CCKeane posted:By all means, try me. I just did.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:27
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CCKeane posted:"Keane only gets mad when he's scum!" Is something Kash said a whole bunch, so it became my "scumtell". For me it was when I was casing you for a word choice when I had you copped as scum secretly and you got SUPER mad. I don't recall the Kash thing you are referring to. Also, re: lurking, the day has been open for well over 24 hours. It wasn't just today. For me at least, a reminder that I posted I was doing this before the game started. So it shouldn't be coming as a surprise.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:34
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CCKeane posted:I'm not scum, no, I'm sick of being called a lurker for not posting during work hours. Naw, that's not solid enough to go on D1, if you keep posting I can't imagine I'll be on you at days end. But you claiming it is just because you didn't post during work is a straw man as I just said.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:37
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I will say I thought IS's choice of voting Keane rather than Hal, just because Hal had posted more recently when Hal still had the least posts was odd.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:40
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Yeah, I've never seen you do something like this not as scum. Can you point to an angry town Keane game for me?
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Jul 20, 2017 01:42
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CCKeane posted:"This man CLAIMS he could not post because he was working, but he CLEARLY had time to post from his last post in the evening to today in the evening! What other life activities could take place over a 24 hour period!" To be clear btw, this was you moving the goal posts. It went from, we are angry at you for not posting during work, to how dare we expect you to post in a 24 hour period.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:44
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CCKeane posted:Also, this should be cheap enough for you to do: If Keane is town this game, I still won't be wrong about his lurking. Lurking sucks and I'm voting lurkers in every game until they stop. But, he seems to not be lurking now, so maybe it won't be an issue this game after all! Let's see if he continues to participate this game then he won't actually be on my radar for lurking. If Keane is town this game, I'll agree that angry Keane does not necessarily = scum. <--But I'm willing to acknowledge that without seeing his flip if he links me to an angry town Keane game that I can read now.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:48
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CCKeane posted:I did post in a 24 hour period. Read again the post I was responding to. CCKeane posted:"This man CLAIMS he could not post because he was working, but he CLEARLY had time to post from his last post in the evening to today in the evening! What other life activities could take place over a 24 hour period!" I never said you didn't. I said you were moving the goal posts. And you were.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:50
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CCKeane posted:Last game I got mad in was FF5, I died before anything major happened and it wasn't as egregious, but it's the same thing: somebody posts "GEE I WONDER WHERE KEANE IS" at the end of the workday and uses that as a gotcha. Hmmm, I didn't remember this so I went back and looked. You don't look particularly mad to me. Definitely seems different than here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3824252&userid=131296#post473843401 https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3824252&userid=131296#post473843515 But guess we'll see.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:56
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CCKeane posted:Oh, okay, since we agree that I posted in a 24 hour period, I guess this comment: Nope. Everything I said there stands. You are doing a lot of word twisting in addition to goal post shifting. Really looking like your scum game here.
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Jul 20, 2017 01:59
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CCKeane posted:Yo, calling somebody out for lurking for not posting within a period of less than 24 hours is absurd. It's absurd. For the record, I just voted you because you were the bottom lurker when I shifted to my lurker voting strategy instead of joke votes. There was no call out until your outsized reaction made me clarify my stance. Unless you consider my contentless vote a call out. At the time I voted it was about 24 hours left in the day and for some reason my joke vote on Flerp had picked up traction. Having said that. I emphatically disagree. I would've been fine making a callout.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:03
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chaoslord posted:Re: Keane, Yes, I think it is genuine reaction. I don't know that it says anything about his alignment but I just went through a game very recently where I got super busy all of a sudden, had some people talk about me, and then finally had free time and folks were like "Aha how convenient for you to show up now" and it frustrated the heck out of me. Like, yes, that does happen, but I think scum showing up when being prodded as such is the exception rather than the rule but our meta has it backwards. Especially someone like Keane who averages, hold on, gonna look it up but I know it's a lot... 93.8 posts a game. He's not a "lurks as scum" player, or really a "lurks" at all player, so to act like he is only posting now due to pressure votes would be something I can see him taking offense to from the principle of it. So yes, genuine reaction. It's absolutely a genuine reaction. He's really mad. But I've only seen him really mad as scum. It's a fair point that maybe he's just getting sick of getting called out for lurking. But then he should stop lurking. In the game he is talking about, he was lurking HARD. He was not scum. But it certainly didn't help in a game where all the scum were also lurking HARD.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:05
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CCKeane posted:Thought so. I wasn't paying any attention to pregame posts in regards to post count either, fwiw. So not sure this is a thing. That is typically something I do if I'm doing a deep dive on someone, not when I'm just looking for lurkers initially. But his choice of you was odd for other reasons as I stated.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:08
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CCKeane posted:No loving poo poo stuff gets more irritating the more you deal with it, and I'm pretty sick of this. For me checking in once a day is fine, as long as that check in includes addressing all the posts made to that point. Like I would have easily just moved my vote from you to someone else if you had just come in and responded to everything in the thread to that point with several content posts. As I said to Hal earlier, I'm fine with several content posts all in a row during your daily check in or the like. (and there is no way I'll be voting you for lurking on this day now, since you aren't, we share top poster!) ##vote Hal But let me point out, this is NOT what you did in FF5. So can you explain to me how I should have been expecting that? You didn't post often, and when you did post, there wasn't really any content there. You mostly didn't read the thread it seemed like. Why would I expect anything different in this game?
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Jul 20, 2017 02:14
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vector_to posted:## unvote Not personal on my side. Keane is cool. I'm just anti lurker. When he lurks it bothers me for that game, when he doesn't, it doesn't. He's actually one of the better players when he plays.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:16
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wheredashimapansat posted:Would you believe me if I said scum tend to over react ( a genuine reaction) against a townie that keeps poking? They "blow up" is the medical term i believe. They do. But people under stress in RL for other reasons also over react, so it's not always a good gauge. I remember I blew up in a game when I was traveling and stressed once and people had gotten under my skin and was town. But most of the time I'm pretty calm. My early game reads aren't that great except for specific people I have meta on. I wouldn't say Keane is someone I have a handle on in that way unless the anger thing turns out to be a solid indicator.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:20
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CCKeane posted:I emphatically disagree even stronger, and, honestly in a "no for real for real" it's really, really lovely to demand constant attention in the thread since many people don't have the luxury of being able to check and respond to the thread consistently. I don't have the same kind of job as most people here, I am busy pretty frequently and when I'm not my internet access isn't as consistent, and it is limited to my phone. I left my house this morning and didn't have access to the thread until I came home at around 6, and checking in with this thread wasn't my top priority. I think I've kind of already responded to the sentiment here, but not demanding constant attention. People have lives. All I personally expect is real reads and content from people in every game day of a game they signed up for. I wouldn't be voting someone for lurking that did that. Again, I was on you for lurking because you were the most lurky at the time. I'm not going to wait till the literal last minute in the day to place my lurker vote. That wouldn't be very effective. It's a shifting thing until it's not needed at all. From my perspective, it's a straight up lovely thing to do, to sign up for games and not do the above. It's like imagine sitting around the table playing a board game and every time it comes to someon'es turn they are outside smoking/talking on their cell phone and everyone has to wait for them. Or, real life mafia, imagine someone is there at the start but then just gets up and walks away and isn't there for a day at all. And we somehow have to play the game around your absence when you could still be scum and we can't read you.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:28
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CCKeane posted:Dude, you work in an office at a computer for your job, I work in boiler rooms. That game I was busier than I was expecting, but you really can't expect people to be able to check into a thread for the majority of the hours of the day, it really isn't reasonable. Yup. As stated, I really don't. CCKeane posted:A good idea. This is a good time to point out that tomorrow's deadline is at a weird time. 4pm PDT. 21 hours from now.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:34
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And my status at the time is generally driving. I'll try to be on from my son's TKD on my phone right before that if needed.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:35
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CCKeane posted:As I said before, I think tabling the broad discussion until the game is over is prudent and fair, though any specific cases on lurking and responses to those cases are still fair game. Does this seem reasonable to you? I'm still a few posts behind, but yeah this is fine so we don't derail the thread much more.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:39
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wheredashimapansat posted:Hmmmmmmmmm so what you're saying is we have two townies and need to look elsewhere? I am only concerned that keane gave him a verbal beat down and kb backed off. If I'm on you for a perceived tell then I'm on you until that tell is proven wrong. I may unvote vector not sure yet I would maybe vote jeabus or join an existing wagon. The latter is probably better. I don't think I have backed off at all. I moved my lurker vote to Hal because Keane isn't lurking. When the world is good, there are no lurkers, and I switch gears to voting based on content, I might still be voting Keane for his anger possibly being scum meta if I haven't identified anyone scummier.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:42
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vector_to posted:Thank you for the clarification! I'm not up to speed on everyone's meta, so I hope that doesn't become a driving point. I switched my lurker vote to Hal, the current top contender. He's probably going to check in and start posting once he's home though, so I doubt it will stay there. Yorkshire Tea 9 Hal Incandenza 8 BottleKnight 7 Infinitum 4 Post counts for the record. I'm combining BK's and Inf's in my head.
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Jul 20, 2017 02:46
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Mithross posted:On Deadlines: For the record, wasn't complaining or didn't mean to. Just pointing out that it is a different time of day then many games close days at so people weren't caught by surprise. I cave to whatever is convenient for the mod. I prefer shorter wait for flips.
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CCKeane posted:You had four posts after the game opened (discounting the confirm post) when you made your post. This is a reasonable point. But context is also important. What do you think of Jam's post right before that which is what prompted it? He didn't do this in a vacuum.
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