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Mike the TV posted:That sounds like a great place to start, thanks guys. Touching computers has been a hobby for a long time. I have a decent savings so I have some time and money to invest. I've been in management for years and I'm pretty sure in the DC area there are a million unemployed restaurant managers and very few open jobs so this is a transition I deeeffinitely need to make I keep saying this, because people need to hear it: the business is already GONE, and will take many years to come back. Even if we "re-open" everything all at once, capacity restrictions and lack of demand (not everyone is ready to go out) mean that a lot of restaurants can't operate at peak capacity. And most restaurants scrape by all week just for the big nights, so even a small decrease in overall traffic can spell doom. Like that goon above, whose restaurant is at maybe 70%? Unless the owner has unusually deep pockets, I doubt he can keep that place open for very long. And then, even if there was a magical vaccine that we could all take tomorrow, we are still careening into a major economic meltdown. That poo poo is always bad for restaurants.
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I found a neat series of articles by the same person on that subject. In order of posting: https://medium.com/@joelleparenteau/why-restaurants-are-not-hosed-80383594c593 https://medium.com/@joelleparenteau/why-are-restaurants-so-hosed-ca07c4624745 https://medium.com/@joelleparenteau/why-uber-eats-is-a-necessary-evil-9b1f329eedf0 The reaction to 'we're fine' to 'oh god its worse than everyone though' clearly happened, but I think there's some nice take away, especially with regards to setting margins back to profitable levels since people are realizing/somewhat overpaying for delivery now that they can't go out. What does everyone think?
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I'm already angling for a new line of work by talking with some friends, because I fully expect the restaurant industry to go into a screaming freefall collapse directly towards Hell with not a single government finger lifted to help mitigate it, resulting in untold hundreds of thousands of closures, with mass unemployment in the industry because there won't be enough restaurants left to take on that many workers No clue what's going to happen to my place of work yet, but I can tell you that the tips aren't going to be enough to make a living off of anymore
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TheParadigm posted:I found a neat series of articles by the same person on that subject. In order of posting: I think this person is a fool (who puts poker player in their bio? People who think they can beat a system.) who never worked in food service before opening a shop and is in for a series of rude awakenings but man I would gently caress up a döner RN.
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any restaurant that didn’t convert to delivery/curbside is going away. dine-in is done. anyone talking abt “going back to normal” is thinking too small.
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Whenever the uber/grub-hub merger goes through, the clock is ticking until they figure out having a central production kitchen of their own, producing dozens of menus from one location under multiple names will let them keep all the money.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Whenever the uber/grub-hub merger goes through, the clock is ticking until they figure out having a central production kitchen of their own, producing dozens of menus from one location under multiple names will let them keep all the money. That would involve buying real estate and would make it even harder for them to keep all their drivers classified as contractors instead of employees, so I doubt it.
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Commercial real estate is in a free-fall. It's the perfect time to buy, especially if you're an ad-hoc criminal enterprise like Uber.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Whenever the uber/grub-hub merger goes through, the clock is ticking until they figure out having a central production kitchen of their own, producing dozens of menus from one location under multiple names will let them keep all the money. restaurants are already abandoning grubhub and uber's a tainted brand as well Babylon Astronaut posted:Commercial real estate is in a free-fall. It's the perfect time to buy, especially if you're an ad-hoc criminal enterprise like Uber. lol if you think it's in a free-fall now wait a few months
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Something like this: https://youtu.be/Dtlw_h-3e7k is easily scalable, and I can show you how to make sure everyone in such a facility could be misclassified as indep. contractors, especially given Uber's ability to skirt all kinds of regulations. It also doesn't have to be Uber, it's going to be the first one willing to kick off the criminal enterprise.SHVPS4DETH posted:restaurants are already abandoning grubhub and uber's a tainted brand as well Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 20:23 on May 25, 2020 |
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Skwirl posted:That would involve buying real estate and would make it even harder for them to keep all their drivers classified as contractors instead of employees, so I doubt it. Uber's ultimate goal is to have robit cars and zero human drivers so edit: also isn't their morally corrupt ex-CEO already spinning up a bunch of unlicensed ghost kitchens for the service mediaphage fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 25, 2020 |
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droll posted:Get your CompTIA A+ (bit of money + time) to get past recruiter filters, lay down heavy on the resume about your past experience working under pressure (with difficult customers) to still deliver excellent service, as well as your ability to prioritize multiple tasks. I can teach you which buttons to press and why. I can't teach you customer service and time management skills, not to the level of someone with experience anyway. Any good hiring manager will always pick someone with soft skills who can be trained over an unorganized jerk who knows Windows internals inside and out.
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I am making my escape plans from the industry, even though I have a job to go back to that will stick around. I'm just not in to fighting tooth and nail to move ahead against the dozens of suddenly unemployed applicants who will have the kind of varied experience I never got. At least my casino covers tuition expenses. I will probably jump on the computer touching train, it was what I was working towards years ago before I discovered cooking, and I can get my current job to pay for refreshing my A+ that is massively out of date.
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Squashy Nipples posted:And then, even if there was a magical vaccine that we could all take tomorrow, we are still careening into a major economic meltdown. That poo poo is always bad for restaurants. Unless you're lucky enough to be working in a hospital. I'd be, far more reticent about working in a nursing home. I hope anyone else in here who may be doing that, speak up? Cuz that does not sound fun in these times. Aside from our hours being cut back a bit because of less patients, because no elective surgeries until like two weeks ago.
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Mithross posted:and I can get my current job to pay for refreshing my A+ that is massively out of date. Good, but just having one gets you through a lot of doors. Take as many classes as you can, but there's no need to wait to start applying, that A+ gets you to the front of the line with many, many agencies.
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SHVPS4DETH posted:any restaurant that didn’t convert to delivery/curbside is going away. dine-in is done. anyone talking abt “going back to normal” is thinking too small. Seeing as I had a sit down dinner in a restaurant in Texas (masked unless eating, socially distanced, sanitation protocols implemented), I’d argue it’s not dead just likely to be more expensive going forward.
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bloody ghost titty posted:Seeing as I had a sit down dinner in a restaurant in Texas (masked unless eating, socially distanced, sanitation protocols implemented), I’d argue it’s not dead just likely to be more expensive going forward. half capacity + increased overhead = death of fast casual/mom n pop within 3 months if it isn’t dead already and just twitching furtively
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Manuel Calavera posted:Unless you're lucky enough to be working in a hospital. I'd be, far more reticent about working in a nursing home. I hope anyone else in here who may be doing that, speak up? Cuz that does not sound fun in these times. I'm not, but two of my staff are right now (one in a retirement home where the executive chef sometimes helps out at my place on weekends, one in a random nursing home that our boss was able to get him into). Neither one is super happy. Both send messages at least once a week asking when they can come back to our catering company.
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I'm drunk af right now* and trying to clean up the bedroom in the shared house I live in and just started bawling because I'm packing up my winter clothes into a Digni-fries box. Like, I'm never gonna move with boxes I kept from a Sysco/US Foods truck again, am I? The industry is so hosed. I know people here have posted their success stories about getting out of the industry and becoming computer touchers, but let's face it, I'm 46 and have no skills in that department. I honestly have no idea what to do with my life right now. ...I'm sorry for going all e/n, but my cat of 17 years just died, my birthday last month sucked because I couldn't do my annual tradition of going out for sushi, and tomorrow's my husband's birthday and I have absolutely no plans (his tradition is tacos). I'm just a hot mess right now. *I'll happily eat a probe for drunk posting, but y'all are the only people I have with which to vent my spleen
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bloody ghost titty posted:Seeing as I had a sit down dinner in a restaurant in Texas (masked unless eating, socially distanced, sanitation protocols implemented), I’d argue it’s not dead just likely to be more expensive going forward. 3 guesses where all those increased costs are going to be squeezed from (ofc it'll be from labor)
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SHVPS4DETH posted:half capacity + increased overhead = death of fast casual/mom n pop within 3 months if it isn’t dead already and just twitching furtively Is the current hope more or less that we get a 'cancel rent bill' but that it goes for businesses as well, so they can just resume 'when its over' and not just collapse in the short term?
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TheParadigm posted:Is the current hope more or less that we get a 'cancel rent bill' but that it goes for businesses as well, so they can just resume 'when its over' and not just collapse in the short term? they're not gonna do this the government and states will allow them all to die off
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JacquelineDempsey posted:I'm drunk af right now* and trying to clean up the bedroom in the shared house I live in and just started bawling because I'm packing up my winter clothes into a Digni-fries box. Like, I'm never gonna move with boxes I kept from a Sysco/US Foods truck again, am I? The industry is so hosed. For what it's worth happy belated birthday and I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. Losing companions we love is always so tough.
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Of course they will let them die off. Big business can weather the storm, pick up all the cheap property, and everything can be chain restaurants as far as the eye can see. Demolition Man was right and soon all restaurants will be Taco Bell.
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Sorry to hear about your cat. My 17-year old puss is starting to get super frail.Black August posted:they're not gonna do this Mithross posted:Of course they will let them die off. Big business can weather the storm, pick up all the cheap property, and everything can be chain restaurants as far as the eye can see. I really wish I could argue with either of these but I just can't.
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bloody ghost titty posted:I think this person is a fool (who puts poker player in their bio? People who think they can beat a system.) People who play against the house and think they have a special system, though, yeah, they're idiots. The house always wins in the long run. JacquelineDempsey posted:I'm drunk af right now* and trying to clean up the bedroom in the shared house I live in and just started bawling because I'm packing up my winter clothes into a Digni-fries box. Like, I'm never gonna move with boxes I kept from a Sysco/US Foods truck again, am I? The industry is so hosed. I'm sorry about your kitty 
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Mithross posted:Of course they will let them die off. Big business can weather the storm, pick up all the cheap property, and everything can be chain restaurants as far as the eye can see. From simpler times when this was thought as cute and playful and not a savage accurate prediction of the future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFKoGtgg6Mo
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Anyone wanting help with their resume+Linkedin profiles applying for entry level IT jobs feel free to PM me. We can work on it without including your personal information, scrub the schools/locations from the drafts you send me. I can also help guide anyone that wants to set up their resume/contact info on a personal website (if some newbie comes at me with theirfirst@lastname.whatever, I'm paying attention). We can work through registering domains, basics of DNS and email.
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FFT posted:so you're saying it makes perfect sense for Uber to sustain itself by creating fake restaurants? i’m not NOT saying that hell its working for applebee’s and charles cheese 🤷♀️
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FYI - any industry workers (or recent industry workers) in Texas can now access free mental health care via Southern Smoke here in Houston. It's an e-mail to get started and they'll set you up. According to their site, they're working on rolling this out nationwide, but they aren't there yet. Link here I'm not sure if anyone here is in Texas, but I'll post this again if/when I see they've rolled it out to other states. They're probably just trying to set up partnerships due to limited capacity currently. FFT posted:so you're saying it makes perfect sense for Uber to sustain itself by creating fake restaurants? This is exactly what Travis Kalanick did after he was ousted from Uber. It was posted in this thread but that was awhile ago.
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I've been at this same place for a decade, which I just realized is over a quarter of my life. I'm going to tell my boss this weekend that I'm quitting at the end of June to go to coding school full time. He's either going to be incredibly supportive or fire me immediately and there will be no real middle ground. I'm really excited and scared all at the same time, I don't particularly deal well with change (hence the decade at one place) and this is a big cliff to walk off. If I'm still bitching about my same server job in this thread come July please ban me for being a massive coward.
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bloody ghost titty posted:Seeing as I had a sit down dinner in a restaurant in Texas (masked unless eating, socially distanced, sanitation protocols implemented), I’d argue it’s not dead just likely to be more expensive going forward. Why TF would you do that
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Shooting Blanks posted:Bad first, personally. nth
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