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Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
So just to double check, you 'don't have the time' to literally take no extra time to compensate someone like 60 bucks for the profitable labor they're doing for you but you believe a good chef (aka. someone who's probably already working another 50hr/week job) has 6 hours to give you for free.

Also I hate to tell you this but there's one whiny entitled poo poo in this conversation and it's not the people saying 'stop breaking basic labor laws' it's the guy saying that breaking precedent by obeying the law and basic ethics is toooo haaaard waaaaaah.

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Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

What are you people doing to change these monstrous practices? Or are you just whining about them in an internet comedy forum? You work within the lines set by the industry at large, for better or worse.

Reporting illegal business practices to the authorities, for a start.

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

It is what it is, I'm too busy running a restaurant to go out and picket in the streets about ending the barbaric practice of the culinary stage.
You could help end the practice by like... not doing it? You're the person with the power to do that, it would take zero extra time.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
On a semi-related note, I'm interviewing sex workers for a writing job at the moment and had a hilarious conversation with a former escort where we commiserated about the surprising amount of similarities between working in a brothel and a kitchen.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

Skwirl posted:

If I'm in a restaurant that allows dogs I don't have an issue with it, but I loving despise people who insist their dog is a helper dog when they very obviously have no disability. I get that there's not a good way tighten up the ADA that wouldn't hurt legitimately disabled people, but I hate the assholes who take advantage of its vagueness.

Instead of trying to spot fake disabled people maybe consider the idea that many disabilities, especially mental ones, are invisible to random people in the street but this doesn't somehow mean you don't need a dog trained to help you when you dissociate/have a seizure/flashback.

That aside dogs in restaurants are like small kids in restaurants, don't let them run around and get in the staff's way and I don't care.

Catfishenfuego fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Nov 22, 2017

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

Oldsrocket_27 posted:

I want to be on your side here, but you can't use low pay as excuse for not doing your job, especially when that's the sort of behavior that traps you in poor wages instead of earning you raises.

Have you like, never heard of a strike or?

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
Back in the industry after a fairly lengthy break, but this time I'm out of the food mines and into the dazzling daylight of floor supervising at a really nice bistro, loving loving it so far. My ADD brain excels at bouncing between tables, checking up on customers and flirting with 50+ year old midwestern tourists for those big tips. Aside from the one 'head chef' (there's like, two cooks and a dishwasher in the kitchen at any one time, but she's one of those) who likes to bully the poor 19 year olds who work with her and throw tantrums all my coworkers are awesome too. Plus the food is delicious, locally sourced and pretty healthy as far as restaurant fare goes.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
I literally heard the phrase 'after three months probationary period we can pay you living wage' said by a person who didn't even pause to examine the words that came out of their mouth and I'm applying for 3 more marketing jobs tomorrow.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
I left the restaurant industry to work for a charity teaching kids how to make healthy food and so far I've lost weight, quit drinking, adopted a dog, had my depression and anxiety levels plummet and generally feel 100 times better. Is this how normal people feel?

Only downside of the new job is 12 year olds are terrifying to teach, I turned around the other day and they were using a vegetable knife to play that game where you stab between your fingers. When I called them out on it they said "we're being careful!" which, no, no they were not.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
I signed on to do some agency chef work before finding out I got a good new full time job and boy howdy the two shifts I did before leaving were great reminders why I quit the industry. Physical and verbal abuse, miserable atmosphere, a 9 hour shift where the supervisor tried to bully me into doing 14 hours straight and now they're trying to not pay me.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

quote:

"When someone screwed up, I made it known that they had screwed up and that it couldn't continue," Blodgett said. "When you're dealing with a bunch of millennials that feel all kinds of self-entitled, you have to keep them in line. I made it very clear: If they didn't like it, they could quit. They were making such good money that they didn't quit."
An incredible quote from a guy who did in fact literally have every staff member quit. How is it possible to lack self awareness that hard?

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
The UK government is planning to lock down the entire capital city while simultaneously refusing to order that restaurants and bars close so they don't have to help anyone. It's like a race between whether the US or the UK have the dumber bunch of assholes in charge.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

Martin posted:

Please check your info before spreading stuff like this. There are no such plans.
I did, would you like the telegraph, cnn, or the guardian you tory oval office? Two of my friends are homeless and we're begging our landlord for a stay on rent because my housemate lost her job and can't get any support whatsoever. The government's refusing to test and initially announced a plan to kill 250,000 UK citizens before they backtracked when the public called them out on it.

A few days ago they claimed there were zero plans to close schools as well, they've been caught lying a half dozen times, they're doing the opposite of what's smart and every single loving epidemiologist who doesn't work directly for them started yelling at them the second they announced their plans. Boris Johnson literally got loving blasted by his own peers for joking in the middle of meetings about the loving pandemic.

Catfishenfuego fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Mar 19, 2020

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
Reminder that the Chief Medical expert on this, who initially backed a plan that implied he had no idea how herd immunity works and would kill hundreds of thousands of people, thinks a death toll around six times that of China or Italy would be a good outcome.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/uks-chief-scientific-adviser-says-20000-coronavirus-deaths-would-be-good-outcome

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Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
Our very good and smart government keeps claiming they won't do something then pulling a 180 and doing it with no notice so I've spent the last five days organising the redistribution of two literal tonnes of food from closing restaurants and chains to various homeless/foodbank/community kitchen charities in the city.

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