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i bought this book but haven't read it yet. i think i can get to it this week, maybe this thread will inspire me!!!! i find the criticisms of her blaming the left for the creation of the alt-right suspect, but i will wait until i've read the thing until i cast judgement. given that the alt-right is 100% a reactionary movement, it seems to make sense to me intuitively. but we'll see!!
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now we need a book on europa identity and baked alaska, can't wait!!!!!
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Jul 17, 2017 20:06
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did 4chan facilitate the creation of the alt-right?
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Jul 18, 2017 18:40
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lotta people in this thread who clearly haven't read the book and have strong opinions hmmmm
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Jul 18, 2017 21:09
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i think the online alt-right did at least partially spring up as a reaction to tumblr leftism (i can't believe i'm typing this sentence), and i also think it had literally no effect on the election
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Jul 18, 2017 21:28
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when did it become verboten to criticize tumblr??
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Jul 18, 2017 21:39
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Al! posted:yeah, it's kind of like saying star citizen created creepy obsessive goons well it did create a lot more of them, derek smart registered
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Jul 18, 2017 23:38
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lol what is this
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Jul 19, 2017 02:48
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Dreylad posted:Correct. Like I said, most criticisms of the book tend to zero in on the part that focused on them to the exclusion of the rest of the book which is impressive since the book isn't all that long. this sentence made me want to kill myself quote:This was accomplished, seemingly single-handedly, by Milo Yiannopoulos, with his (admittedly brilliant) application of his trademark flamboyancy and a cool punk rock aesthetic (Sex Pistols, c’mon).
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Jul 20, 2017 02:07
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okay i've started reading it as well now. few things i've noticed is that it definitely needed to be edited more. this was rushed out the door. also she sort of opines on how much she hates that depression quest game a little too much, feels awkward. the game was bad tho...
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Jul 21, 2017 18:45
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Al! posted:i've never heard of depression quest, who made it? let me tell u a little story about a thing called gamergate,
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Jul 21, 2017 19:02
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depression quest was actually a self fulfilling prophecy, as it's creation caused gamergate which made everyone depressed
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Jul 21, 2017 19:06
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i'll try to post a longer explanation later, but I finished the tumblr chapter and I didn't pick up on any blaming of the left for the alt-right. she explicitly said that both the alt right and ID-obsessed left arose at the same time (2010~), not really as reactions to each other but more as reactions to the current political climate - liberals dominating politics. or at least, that is my reading of the text.
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Jul 24, 2017 16:07
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breaklaw posted:Intersectionality was created to try to reduce the infighting in activist circles caused by people trying to increase their status\importance by proving themselves more oppressed or less privileged than the others. It has no applicable use or even consistent definition outside the left-activist subculture. or it more accurately describes reality
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Aug 11, 2017 23:37
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here's her follow up, basically saying the entire period described in her book is over and we're entering a new timeline for the alt right https://thebaffler.com/latest/goodbye-pepe
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Aug 16, 2017 18:05
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Ze Pollack posted:"soooo, you might be wondering why my book about a bunch of sad little memeboys who aren't actually a threat to anyone, just in it for attention, and really just started calling themselves nazis because tumblr was mean to them, uses the term 'alt-right' to refer to them" didn't read the book
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Aug 16, 2017 21:15
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going to guess pollack both didn't read the book, and also didn't read the article i posted
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Aug 16, 2017 21:24
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Ze Pollack posted:have you never read one of those awful, rambling apologies so popular among the Extremely Online, Karl? she never "predicted" what the alt right would do tho, her book just describes who they are and what they stand for. and it's only one chapter of the book. you're acting like she defends them? which is not the case at all. are you tacitly admitting you haven't read the book?
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