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"One day's sail from Thule is the frozen ocean, called by some the Cronian Sea."

The mare concretum appears to match Strabo's pepēguia thalatta and is probably the same as the topoi ("places") mentioned in Strabo's apparent description of spring drift ice, which would have stopped his voyage further north and was for him the ultimate limit of the world. Strabo says:

Pytheas also speaks of the waters around Thule and of those places where land properly speaking no longer exists, nor sea nor air, but a mixture of these things, like a "marine lung", in which it is said that earth and water and all things are in suspension as if this something was a link between all these elements, on which one can neither walk nor sail.

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Then Hiram sent Solomon the following message: "I have received your message and I am ready to do what you ask. I will provide the cedars and the pine trees. My men will bring the logs down from Lebanon to the sea, and will tie them together in rafts to float them down the coast to the place you choose. There my men will untie them and your men will take charge of them. On your part, I would like you to supply the food for my men." (1 Kings 5:8-10).

In the mountains of Lebanon we will cut down all the cedars you need, bind them together in rafts, and float them by sea as far as Joppa. From there you can take them to Jerusalem. (2 Chronicles 2:16)

Solomon’s temple follows the traditional Phoenician design: an outer hallway or ulam, a central open courtyard or heikal, and an inner holy of holies or debir. There were two pillars outside the front entrance and rooms for temple staff in an annex.

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The Marsala Ship is the earliest warship known from archeological evidence. It is a wreck discovered in 1969 in an area called Punta Scario in the harbor of Marsala in western Sicily, Italy, near the Aegadian Islands. The Marsala Ship's "nationality" was painted on the sides with letters by its Punic builders from Carthage.

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The Marsala Ship had only small cups and bowls for individual servings. Its wine, water, and other liquids were carried in amphorae of miscellaneous shapes. Food remains were fresh and perishable, such as various kinds of butchered meat. Bones of deer, horses, oxen, sheep, goats and pigs were all found. All this indicated it was intended as a warship and not as a merchant cargo vessel. The presence of ballast stones and lack of merchant cargo definitely indicate that it was a warship, probably used for scouting purposes or for ramming smaller boats. The remains of marijuana stems — which may have been chewed by the oarsmen — were also found in the wreck.

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That the Punic sailors drank wine on board came as no surprise, and the presence of amphorae with the resinous lining associated with wine-carrying proves it. But the totally, unexpected discovery of a bundle of cannabis sticks indicates the sailors indulged in a mild form of marijuana tea as well.

twoday posted:

this whole thread

Splatmaster posted:

DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:

did they smoke weed?

Darkman Fanpage posted:

gently caress ROME

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Not only did the elephants' appearance, their smell, and the noise of their trumpeting alarm both men and horses opposed to them, but they were highly dangerous when charged, fighting with their tusks and their trunks and trampling down their opponents.

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Only one of the elephants survived the war, it seems. This was the elephant Hannibal himself had often ridden. Its name, according to the story, was Surus, meaning ''the Syrian.'' Because the Ptolemies of Egypt, successors to Alexander, were known to have seized some Indian elephants as booty in their campaigns in Syria, it seemed likely that some descendants of those elephants had found their way to Carthage. Egypt and Carthage enjoyed good relations in those days. Mr. De Beer, citing the story of Surus, concluded, ''It is therefore almost certain that Hannibal's elephants included at least one Indian.''

poisonpill posted:

The Romans had a whole historical reason that Carthage and Rome didn't get along (and it totally wasn't fighting over dominance of the Mediterranean!). It was that the founder of Rome was just cruising around the sea and banged the Queen of Carthage (the Phoenicians) and then the gods were like "time to move on and found a city" so he just like woke up the next morning, grabbed his phone and wallet all sly, and snuck out on the first boat out of town. She was so distraught she burned herself to death and when Aeneas was looking back he was like "Wow, nice BBQ, too bad I'm missing it." Anyway the Romans destroyed these people who were basically policing the seas and then were shocked when pirates sprang up everywhere.

Nosfereefer posted:

if they were so smart why didnt they invent video games or anime??

FactsAreUseless posted:

[in stereotype voice] Bye Phoenicia!

FactsAreUseless posted:

[in stereotype voice] Bye Phoenicia!

Mariana Horchata posted:

grt pst, vry fscntng

twoday posted:

No worries, friend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIn6USamFEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JOdz0OlV6o

twoday posted:

Or that they funded the building of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem?

paul_soccer12 posted:

everyone in the idf must die

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poisonpill posted:

The Romans had a whole historical reason that Carthage and Rome didn't get along (and it totally wasn't fighting over dominance of the Mediterranean!). It was that the founder of Rome was just cruising around the sea and banged the Queen of Carthage (the Phoenicians) and then the gods were like "time to move on and found a city" so he just like woke up the next morning, grabbed his phone and wallet all sly, and snuck out on the first boat out of town. She was so distraught she burned herself to death and when Aeneas was looking back he was like "Wow, nice BBQ, too bad I'm missing it." Anyway the Romans destroyed these people who were basically policing the seas and then were shocked when pirates sprang up everywhere.

twoday posted:

Yeah they were pretty chill. So they would trade with people, mostly for natural resources.

However, sometimes when there was a place with natural resources, but no people there, they would force-migrate entire popoulations of people there. This is one of the theories of how the Guanches who are genetically related to Libyan berbers, ended up in the Canary Islands despite having no knowledge of seafaring.

alnilam posted:

lol

Pohoenician: "Hey you, live over there, so we can trade with you! It's rich in minerals so it'll be good there."

Other guy: "Uhh why don't you just set up camp there and extract the resources yourself?"

P: "w....wha? huh?? "

twoday posted:

More like:

Phoenician: "well, welcome to this island. I like this island, it's got lots of crazy trees and rocks and stuff, and I'm sure you'll learn to like it too. Here's some sheep and goats and a bag of grain to get you started. Now I know that farming is gonna be a bitch, because the island is littered with layer upon layer of rocks deposited by countless volcanic eruptions and you're gonna have to clear that away before you can even reach any arable soil. I'm gonna go now, but some other dudes might come back here with a ship in a year or two. Well, good luck!" *awkward handshake*

*Berber stares defeatedly at departing Phoenician ship*

cda posted:

Phoenican kid: Pass the salt.

Phoenician dad: What'll you give me for it?