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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

What can I say except
you're welcome
i like to think the androids aren't as strong as frieza they just have unlimited stamina making them bullshit to fight since up to that point the only thing goku had fought as super saiyan was a gassed out frieza and the form still drained stamina at that point until goku perfected it

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Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Unlimited stamina still has to be paired with a high level of strength and resilience and energy output. Even if I guzzle a few Cuban espressos I probably still can't destroy a solar system.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

What can I say except
you're welcome

Lobok posted:

Unlimited stamina still has to be paired with a high level of strength and resilience and energy output. Even if I guzzle a few Cuban espressos I probably still can't destroy a solar system.

you arent trying hard enough

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

MAV Tactics
To be fair Gero was making insanely good robots even back in Dragonball. Android 8 was stronger than Goku was.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Look Android 19 was funny okay.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

What can I say except
you're welcome
android 19 would have won if he got more juice in him

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:

Look Android 19 was funny okay.

And would have been the actual main villain alongside Gero if Toriyama's at the time editor hadn't thought he looked stupid.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

What can I say except
you're welcome
toriyama's ex-editor (king piccolo) was cooking

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

i like to think the androids aren't as strong as frieza they just have unlimited stamina making them bullshit to fight since up to that point the only thing goku had fought as super saiyan was a gassed out frieza and the form still drained stamina at that point until goku perfected it

Goku trained for years and mastered SSJ and would have had an issue just fighting the androids. Piccolo merged with Kami and got more powerful than any (at the time) SSJ and was equal to 17 outside of stamina. 18 clowned Vegeta without much relative effort.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009

Dont judge me, I design your manhole
Bulma made the Dragon Radar, which is more significant than almost anything else in the series. Brains totally beat Braun in the Dragonball world.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009
ABSOLUTE TWAT

ImpAtom posted:

To be fair Gero was making insanely good robots even back in Dragonball. Android 8 was stronger than Goku was.

They should have lured the androids to Pilaf's pinball labyrinth.

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Momomo posted:

Bulma made the Dragon Radar, which is more significant than almost anything else in the series. Brains totally beat Braun in the Dragonball world.

Yeah, no shaving allowed.

Bumper Stickup
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


Grimey Drawer

Judge Tesla posted:

And would have been the actual main villain alongside Gero if Toriyama's at the time editor hadn't thought he looked stupid.

Honestly it all worked out for the best. If that hadn't happened we never would've got multiverse savior 17.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Every time Toriyama's former editor told him to do something it was a better idea than what Toriyama had, with the exception of Cell moving beyond Imperfect form.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Funky Valentine posted:

Every time Toriyama's former editor told him to do something it was a better idea than what Toriyama had, with the exception of Cell moving beyond Imperfect form.

That's why Cell Max is the funniest ever film villain, you won't escape from Toriyama's favourite form when he's Godzilla sized

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

What can I say except
you're welcome
Torishima saying Dragon Ball Super needed an editor :discourse:

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

The entire Android/Cell arc being Toriyama's editors, past and then-present, constantly laughing at/disliking his designs until he just said "oh gently caress it fine we just get Green Armour Frieza" is loving brilliant.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:

The entire Android/Cell arc being Toriyama's editors, past and then-present, constantly laughing at/disliking his designs until he just said "oh gently caress it fine we just get Green Armour Frieza" is loving brilliant.

And yet he never gave Cell a design that wasn't covered in annoying-to-draw spots. Frieza got a simplified slimmed-down final form to avoid drawing all his spikes and gribblies, Super Saiyan got light-colored hair to cut down on inking, but somehow Cell never got the Overworked Artist Glow-up

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009
its okay, the dots are the assistants job

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔~♡
I thought it was odd everyone wished to be sentient floating candy spheres after candy vegito beat buu.

Lamebot fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Dec 7, 2025

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔~♡
what will our heroes do when a new wizard from space transforms everyone into speech bubbles and the entire multiverse into a white void?

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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwFcQjv-514

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