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Tart Kitty posted:I can't even tell you how many times I've seen the movie and I still find myself blown away by the fact that the theatrical cut is as long as it is. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing - it's just that ambitious action films have a bad habit of getting hacked to pieces in editing to meet an "acceptable" runtime a lot of the time. Once genre pictures cross that 2-hour threshold, it’s easy for them to become flabby, but Face/Off it edited like a dream. Last time I watched it, I was stunned that it took 40 minutes for Sean to get to the island prison, it felt like way less time.
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Tart Kitty posted:I can't even tell you how many times I've seen the movie and I still find myself blown away by the fact that the theatrical cut is as long as it is. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing - it's just that ambitious action films have a bad habit of getting hacked to pieces in editing to meet an "acceptable" runtime a lot of the time. I know rough bootlegs with temp score from other movies exists but I still dream of Stallone's 130 minute cut of Cobra becoming officially restored and available at some point. Just because, like, drat. It was originally rated X before being cut significantly for violence and for time, what we got is only 84 minutes so that's like a huge difference. Most of the reason they cut it though was so they could get an extra showing a day in theaters. X-Ray Pecs posted:Once genre pictures cross that 2-hour threshold, it’s easy for them to become flabby, but Face/Off it edited like a dream. Last time I watched it, I was stunned that it took 40 minutes for Sean to get to the island prison, it felt like way less time. For real, I loving LOVE Face/Off.
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May 22, 2019 14:11
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Once genre pictures cross that 2-hour threshold, it’s easy for them to become flabby, but Face/Off it edited like a dream. Last time I watched it, I was stunned that it took 40 minutes for Sean to get to the island prison, it felt like way less time. Holy cow if you'd asked me I would have said it happens around 20 minutes in.
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May 22, 2019 16:51
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That Face/Off is all resolved with a kick to the balls makes it all the sweeter. It is a dope movie. Every time I put it on I'm surprised how well it's aged. Time has not been kind to a lot of my childhood favourites, but Face/Off could be released tomorrow and would still look good. Also, the bald guy is amazing. "Hey, Sean, how's your dead son? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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May 23, 2019 02:23
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That bald dude directed The Notebook.
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Disposable Scud posted:That bald dude directed The Notebook. No loving way. You are loving right. He's also the son of John Cassavetes. What a weird thing.
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May 23, 2019 03:47
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Bunny from The Wire is the guy who tells Sean about the face swapping surgery, and Frank Sobotka helps Sean escape from the prison, it’s a weird as hell cast.
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May 23, 2019 12:53
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyEX6u-Yhs
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May 23, 2019 16:01
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I have no idea what's going on. Other than they need to protect someone new.
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May 23, 2019 16:08
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Yeah with old Arnold and the mesh kind of Terminator I, I guess Genisys is still a thing? Crazy. I will say I am excited to see this because I'm a huge Terminator mark, and even if it sucks it will still be 10,000 times better than Salvation.
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May 23, 2019 16:15
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At least Salvation tried some poo poo, Genisys was just so soulless and this one feels like it's going to be similar.
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May 23, 2019 16:17
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Holy Christ I loving HATE Salvation, that's one of the few movies that kind of evokes anger in me. Like pretend you don't know anything about McG or Salvation and how it turned out or anything, and someone came up to you and was like: Hey everyone a new Terminator movie is coming out with a huge budget and a ton of practical effects instead of just CG but it will also have great CG and it takes place entirely in the future war and is about young Kyle Reese and how John Connor is leading the resistance and we'll see the various evolutions of SkyNet's robots and stuff and it has Christian Bale, Anton Yelchin, Common, Michael Ironside, and Terry Crews in it and is being written to serve as both a reboot and a prequel and a sequel simultaneously.  What a loving waste.
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Basebf555 posted:At least Salvation tried some poo poo, Genisys was just so soulless and this one feels like it's going to be similar. I feel the opposite, I feel like Genisys, while not good, did try some poo poo, it just didn't go far enough with what it tried. Plus I gotta say it's the only Terminator movie with generally not great special effects for the time it was released, like drat that entire part with the bus.  (still the part where SkyJohnNetConnor is walking away from the MRI and leaving like nanomachine shadows behind him each step was genuinely striking and a cool new thing to see). I still liked it more than Salvation though which was just horribly made on every level except for the effects. Genisys fell into "it's just fine" territory for me, I only watched it once.
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May 23, 2019 16:22
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Neo Rasa posted:Yeah with old Arnold and the mesh kind of Terminator I, I guess Genisys is still a thing? Crazy. Genisys certainly isn't supposed to be a thing. This is supposed to ignore everthing post T2. I'm guessing they borrow the old Arnold stuff from it, explaining it again, but ignore the whole "John went full Skynet" part? Like I said, I'm more confused than before I watched it.
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thrawn527 posted:Genisys certainly isn't supposed to be a thing. This is supposed to ignore everthing post T2. I'm guessing they borrow the old Arnold stuff from it, explaining it again, but ignore the whole "John went full Skynet" part? LOL if the future of the franchise is a constant stream of reboots that each spend half the movie re-explaining why Old Arnold is a thing. But for real like, if it ignores everything after Terminator 2, like, WOW I'm looking forward to seeing how they have that play out.
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May 23, 2019 16:25
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Time is a lucrative circle.
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May 23, 2019 16:37
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Genisys had Arnold in a prominent role, so I can't hate it for that. This looks mostly like a cameo, which I'm not super excited about. The shot right before the end of the trailer with two robots fighting underwater is probably Arnold's terminator. I suspect he will lose his likeness and be a cgi fight. Arnold is 71, so I can't not see it. Sorry for having bad taste, but I need every movie out of this dude I can get.
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Firstborn posted:Genisys had Arnold in a prominent role, so I can't hate it for that. This looks mostly like a cameo, which I'm not super excited about. The shot right before the end of the trailer with two robots fighting underwater is probably Arnold's terminator. I suspect he will lose his likeness and be a cgi fight. I wouldn't be so sure about how much screen time he's gonna get. For one, he's recently turned down roles for that reason, not enough screen time(The Predator). Second, it looks like this is one of those trailers that really is only taking footage from one relatively small stretch of the actual film. Outside of a quick flashes of different stuff, for the most part we're only seeing the stuff from that one chase on the highway and what happens immediately after.
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May 23, 2019 16:49
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Basebf555 posted:I wouldn't be so sure about how much screen time he's gonna get. For one, he's recently turned down roles for that reason, not enough screen time(The Predator). Second, it looks like this is one of those trailers that really is only taking footage from one relatively small stretch of the actual film. Outside of a quick flashes of different stuff, for the most part we're only seeing the stuff from that one chase on the highway and what happens immediately after. This would make sense since after how people reacted to the Genisys trailer they'd want to keep more of the story under wraps.
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May 23, 2019 16:53
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Snowman_McK posted:That Face/Off is all resolved with a kick to the balls makes it all the sweeter. The part where Travolta interrogates one of the bald dude's cronies always cracks me up. "Christ, what's that smell??" "He poo poo his pants."
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May 23, 2019 17:09
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Basebf555 posted:I wouldn't be so sure about how much screen time he's gonna get. For one, he's recently turned down roles for that reason, not enough screen time(The Predator). Second, it looks like this is one of those trailers that really is only taking footage from one relatively small stretch of the actual film. Outside of a quick flashes of different stuff, for the most part we're only seeing the stuff from that one chase on the highway and what happens immediately after. I hope you're right!
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Salvation is my favourite Terminator after the second one, because it looks great. Tim Miller seems to be able to direct stuff that looks great, which is all I care about.
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Halloween Jack posted:Salvation is my favourite Terminator after the second one, because it looks great. Tim Miller seems to be able to direct stuff that looks great, which is all I care about. Salvation is pretty good as long as it's staying the gently caress away from John Connor. Which is why I wish Christian Bale had never been cast. Once he had, they added a bunch of scenes where he's just sitting around, listening to tapes and complaining. Anton Yelchin was a fantastic Reese, and I wish we'd spent more time with him (Sam Worthington notwithstanding).
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Neo Rasa posted:I feel the opposite, I feel like Genisys, while not good, did try some poo poo, it just didn't go far enough with what it tried. Plus I gotta say it's the only Terminator movie with generally not great special effects for the time it was released, like drat that entire part with the bus. Every time I see something about Genisys, I remember those awful promo pictures they released.      lol
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Why would they add the muzzle flare on the pictures where the gun is pointing directly into the ground like 5 feet in front of them lol
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I don't know. I think I remember reading how someone wanted promo pictures before they had really done anything on the movie, so they gave the cast guns and had them walking around on pavement.
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May 23, 2019 20:13
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thrawn527 posted:Anton Yelchin was a fantastic Reese, and I wish we'd spent more time with him (Sam Worthington notwithstanding).
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Bogus Adventure posted:Every time I see something about Genisys, I remember those awful promo pictures they released. Entertainment Weekly and Empire both, like, they have a gift. Look up their Days of Future Past stuff or cover for Fury Road, like they have people going out of their way to make the movies and characters seem as absolutely stupid and not like something you'd want to watch as possible. It's genuinely impressive and these Genisys photos are still the cream of the crop of this crap.
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The budget for Genisys was about $150 million. These look like promo for an Asylum film shot at a disused quarry.
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May 23, 2019 20:36
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Halloween Jack posted:How is Sam Worthington not perfect for his role? He's the most anodyne actor imaginable. I just can't care about him at all. When he's onscreen, I struggle to keep paying attention. My eyes just drift off of him looking for anything else to lock on to.
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May 23, 2019 20:48
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thrawn527 posted:I just can't care about him at all. When he's onscreen, I struggle to keep paying attention. My eyes just drift off of him looking for anything else to lock on to. Exactly. He embodies that role
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Sam Worthington is good in Sabotage. I also liked him in the Unabomber miniseries, but there's a really funny aspect where his character being from Philly and pronouncing water as "wudder" is important to the case. Worthington's American accent is all over the loving map.
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thrawn527 posted:My eyes just drift off of him looking for anything else to lock on to.
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Neo Rasa posted:Entertainment Weekly and Empire both, like, they have a gift. Look up their Days of Future Past stuff or cover for Fury Road, like they have people going out of their way to make the movies and characters seem as absolutely stupid and not like something you'd want to watch as possible. It's genuinely impressive and these Genisys photos are still the cream of the crop of this crap. Oh poo poo, I never saw the Days of Future Past ones, lmao 
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Man, I remember when Empire used to be good and irreverent and not afraid to pop the bubble of stars who were huffing their own farts. (It ripped into Richard Gere's diva behaviour on First Knight with an article titled "...And The Horse You Rode In On.") I stopped reading around the time of a stupendously crawling interview with John Cusack that had an extended and unironic description of the beauty of his eyelashes, and since then it seems to have turned into Superhero Movie Monthly.
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Genisys was the movie that clued me into the fact that Emilia Clarke is just a really bad actor .
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Narzack posted:Genisys was the movie that clued me into the fact that Emilia Clarke is just a really bad actor . She had to act across Jai Courtney, cut her a little bit of slack. I have never watched Game of Thrones, I have no idea if she can act. She was fine in Solo, I guess.
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The best part of Genisys was Arnold and Jai Courtney reloading clips set to a Ramones song. Everything else was just ehhhhhh. Even JK Simmons as the unlucky shrink, how do you gently caress that up!Halloween Jack posted:Salvation is my favourite Terminator after the second one, because it looks great. 
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thrawn527 posted:She had to act across Jai Courtney, cut her a little bit of slack. I read the books, and only made it through 2.5 seasons of the show. Her scenes were so bad and boring that anytime she came on screen, I would alt-tab out to do something else.
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Neo Rasa posted:I know rough bootlegs with temp score from other movies exists but I still dream of Stallone's 130 minute cut of Cobra becoming officially restored and available at some point. Just because, like, drat. It was originally rated X before being cut significantly for violence and for time, what we got is only 84 minutes so that's like a huge difference. Most of the reason they cut it though was so they could get an extra showing a day in theaters. I didn't realize Stallone was a goon and avid reader of this thread: https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3563114/sylvester-stallone-says-hes-trying-bring-back-cobra-potential-tv-series/
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