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I forgot to post in here when I went through a DTV action movie phase a month or so ago, but I'm posting now. I rewatched the Undisputed films and still can't recommend them enough. I was always a fan of Undisputed and Undisputed II, mostly because of Ving Rhames, Wesley Snipes and Michael Jai White, but this rewatch made it finally click for me why people love Scott Adkins. Boyka is an amazing character and while I was bummed that Boyka: Undisputed breaks the gimmick of the series I was definitely happy to spend more time with the character.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2017 05:02 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:01 |
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Which, if any, of the Death Race sequels are worth watching?
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2017 21:18 |
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Thanks, I'll check them out. Now that my 31 Horror Movies in October is done I'm back to catching up on hidden DTV action gems I've missed out on. I've got Ninja Shadow of a Tear and the 12 Rounds and Never Back Down sequels on deck, then I'll check out Death Race 2 and 3.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 14:42 |
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It's great watching Regeneration and Day of Reckoning back-to-back. John Hyams tricked the producers by making a really good action film with solid themes so he could then make an absolutely trippy, batshit sequel.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 15:34 |
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MrBling posted:You can safely skip 12 Rounds 2 unless you really want to see Randy Orton trying to act. And if you should want that for some reason, then you should watch The Condemned 2 instead, since he apparently only gets to be in sequels that have nothing to do with the original movie. I read this too late and already watched 12 Rounds 2 I definitely didn't hate it, but it's a lesser retread of the first 12 Rounds, which was itself a lesser remake of Die Hard with a Vengeance. I'm enjoying 12 Rounds 3 though. This Dean Ambrose guy has a goofy charm. I have the Condemneds on my too-watch list as well. X-Ray Pecs posted:Speaking of Peter Hyams, which of his father’s movies are worth watching? Sudden Death is a great Die Hard clone, and The Relic is also a solid Die Hard clone mixed with a goofy 50’s horror movie. I’m also interested in movies where the director is also the DP, you can get som great-looking poo poo from that match-up. His earlier sci-fi stuff (Capricorn One, Outland, 2010) is cool. I haven't seen The Star Chamber, but I hear it's a great concept and a so-so execution. Timecop and End of Days are bonkers and worth a watch. Avoid A Sound of Thunder at all costs.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 17:27 |
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:What are people's top action movies from the past 5 years? It seems like the comic bubble has kinda taken over the genre. John Wick 1&2, Fury Road, and that's really it? (Raid was 6 years ago already) The recent Planet of the Apes trilogy. Hanna. Haywire. Brawl in Cell Block 99. You mentioned The Raid, but The Raid 2. Fasts 5, 6 and 7. Snowpiercer. Boyka: Undisputed. Redeemer. 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2017 21:13 |
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I did an Antonio Banderas double-feature tonight and watched Security and Acts of Vengeance. Both of them are worth a look. Acts of Vengeance is the type of DTV action movie that takes itself seriously and it works because it's straight-faced. It also gives Banderas some really good tough-guy cliches (dead family, cage-fighting, vow of silence, befriends a dog). The seams show a bit when you realize they must have only had a few days -- or hours, in Robert Forster's case -- to shoot with some of the supporting cast. But that's okay because we're following Antonio Banderas around the entire movie and he and his voiceover can easily carry it. Security is a goofier DTV action movie, played a little less straight. It's a classic Die Hard situation and has Ben Kingsley as the villain. He's just cashing a paycheck, but he's still putting in a little effort. There's one pretty impressively tense scene early on that's sold completely by Kingsley and Banderas's talents. The supporting cast is good, Cung Le plays a henchman and Spartacus from the Spartacus show plays another security guard. Spartacus is definitely better at playing gruff and dour than goofy douche, but he gets to show both in this, which is nice. The set look like some cheap Saved By the Bell mall but there are some good gunfights and explosions. Antonio Banderas even gets to fire a gun a couple times in that cool, dancerly way he does as El Mariachi. LesterGroans fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Nov 18, 2017 |
# ¿ Nov 18, 2017 10:31 |
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I really liked it, but it's definitely paced a lot slower than you'd expect. I didn't really feel the length, but it's also over two hours, which is insane for a genre picture like this. But again, I really liked it, so I say give it a watch.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2017 22:21 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Another movie I watched recently which really disappointed me was Machete Kills, which was a real letdown after I enjoyed the first one. I understand what Rodriguez was trying to do but it just didn't land for me. I didn't even care for the first Machete and it's still miles ahead of that lovely sequel. It's crazy that his last movie that was any good was Planet Terror, which is a film that gets dunked on by its own second feature. But I guess that's not really a surprise, the best scene in Sin City is easily the one Tarantino directed.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2017 08:40 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:And soon he'll be done. Is this Star Trek movie he's doing supposed to be the one he's going out on? He's got his Manson movie coming out, then there's a Star Trek movie, then is that it? Or will the Star Trek one not count and he'll still have one more after that? If, and I still think that's a big "if", he does end up directing Star Trek I feel like he'll say it won't count and his "10 films" will be ones he wrote and directed. I also don't really think he'll stop at 10 anyway, maybe just take a long break.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2018 20:09 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:He'll pull a Stephen Soderbergh, absolutely. Yeah. He's on a different gear from Soderbergh, so I doubt he'll direct two full TV seasons back-to-back then immediately go back and do a movie. I wouldn't be surprised if he does end up doing a miniseries or something then a few years later another movie though.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2018 20:19 |
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Everyone who hasn't seen it should watch Near Dark. It's probably Kathryn Bigelow's best movie, which is saying something.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2018 20:55 |
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Fart City posted:Bob Odenkirk is getting his own John Wick... produced by some of the people behind Wick and Atomic Blonde. This is amazing.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2018 15:49 |
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Basebf555 posted:Assuming Odenkirk is physically capable of performing the necessary action choreography, he would be absolutely perfect for a movie like this. He'd have been a much more inspired casting decision for the Death Wish remake now that I think about it. People keep asking if he can handle the action choreography. Uh, yeah, I'm thinking he can handle it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77u30-01Asw
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2018 16:10 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:The one I remember most keenly is actually Daniel Craig in 2005/2006 just before Casino Royale came out. It was either an image from the production of that scene where he emerges from the sea onto a beach like Ursula Andress in Dr No or just a picture of him at the beach, but I remember there was a lot of remarks about how he'd gotten into pretty good shape for the movie. That beefcake shot of him walking out of the water in tiny shorts was pretty smart marketing.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2018 18:12 |
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Yeah, it's actually a cool series in the sense that the first 3 or 4 movies are very stylistically different from each other. It makes sense that it's Tom Cruise's pet franchise, because until recently he seemed to be all about working with a wide range of filmmakers and rarely repeating. But to your question, it's a series worth watching. The weakest one is probably the most recent entry, Rogue Nation, and even it has some standout action set pieces. I used to be pretty down on M:I 2, but I liked it a lot more when I recently rewatched it. The biggest selling points of the series are Tom Cruise giving it his all and an impressive supporting cast.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2018 23:35 |
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Yeah, PSH was a shockingly good heavy.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2018 23:45 |
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Snowman_McK posted:Even the latest one is different from those that came before it. I feel like there was a bet between some people to see whether you could do a Mission Impossible movie where Ethan barely uses a gun. I think the finale is the only real shootout in the whole thing, the rest of it is chase scenes and that really elaborate opera sequence. Yeah, it does its own thing. I do enjoy it, but it definitely feels like it used Ghost Protocol as a template whereas the others are just "I'm gonna do my own Mission Impossible". That opera scene rules. sponges posted:I miss him His death really bummed me out. We missed out on like 30+ years of amazing PSH performances.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2018 04:35 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've only ever seen one Tom Cruise movie in the cinema and it was Knight and Day. There's a movie that starts off promisingly and which I remember being pretty fun for its first half with Tom Cruise playing a seemingly cracked secret agent, but then in the second half it burns out and becomes a generic spy movie. Yeah, the first Jack Reacher is a much better Tom Cruise action hero piss-take than Knight and Day, but it's still kind of watchable.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2018 22:26 |
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Fart City posted:Helped out immensely by being directed by Anton Fuqua. Even when he does trash like Olympus Has Fallen, it’s “throw your hands up laughing” trash. David Ayer could learn a lot from his former Training Day collaborater in that regard. I'd argue that Sabotage is absolutely that kind of enjoyable trash.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2018 15:54 |
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Yeah, it grew on me when I watched it recently, but there's a lot to slog through to get to some of those great scenes.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2018 01:05 |
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Combatace posted:Does anybody have any suggestions for the better DTV movies that came out in 2016/17? I'm a big fan of technically accurate and fluid gun play. In my mind I'm thinking of something similar to Universal Soldier: Regeneration or The Hit List. Didn't have much gunplay, but Savage Dog was fun and pulpy and had Scott Adkins, Marko Zaror and Cung Le. Security was a "Assault on Precinct 13 in a mall" that's saved by some solid acting. Acts of Vengeance is another good DTV Antonio Banderas movie, but not much gunplay. I heard good things about 24 Hours to Live but I haven't seen it. 12 Rounds 3: Lockdown is a Die Hard riff that isn't great but gets by on Dean Ambrose's goofy charm. The Marine 3 and The Marine 5 are good and worth a watch. The closest thing here to a Hit List/Universal Soldier: Regeneration vibe is probably Acts of Vengeance.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2018 06:15 |
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Combatace posted:I should also probably mention that I think Cinemax’s Strike Back and Banshee have some of the most fun and engaging action beats around. Speaking of, have you seen the new series of Strike Back? It feels like it's trying way too hard to capture the Stapleton/Winchester chemistry, with one of the leads being a total Stapleton ripoff. It's still watchable in a video game cutscene/"this is cool on a cable TV budget" kinda way.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2018 08:35 |
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The Hannibal books and movies and show are all about combining a "realistic" crime procedural with classy operatics and trashy pulp. It's Grand Guignol.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2018 17:39 |
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It's really funny to me that the only Die Hard movie that was specifically written to be a Die Hard movie is the one without any redeeming aspects.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2018 22:00 |
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As much as I'm a huge fan of the entire Fast & Furious franchise, I'm weirdly down on the idea of a 9th film. I'm into the idea of the Hobbs & Shaw spinoff, for sure, but rewatching Fate of the Furious made me realize how integral Paul Walker ended up being to the team. He was kind of a humbling presence. I think Justin Lin is back for 9 though, so I'm sure the first trailer for it will suck me back in.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2018 07:04 |
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Brawl in Cell Block 99 is absolutely depressing, grinding and nihilistic, but I disagree that it hates the audience and its main character. Definitely skip it if you can't put up with over two hours of the movie adding more and more weight to Vince Vaughn until it crushes him. Bone Tomahawk is the happy-go-lucky S. Craig Zahler movie.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2018 13:55 |
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The Raid 2 has a deleted scene that's a better action movie than most other films released.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2018 06:47 |
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I like Winter Soldier, but the best action scenes are the shortest ones. The elevator fight and the brief chase after Bucky shoots up Cap's apartment. The ship infiltration is pretty good too. The big CGI helicarrier takedown stuff is lame as hell, with Bucky and Cap's fight like a low-rent version of the same fight from GoldenEye. There were some okay moments when Falcon fought Frank Grillo, I guess.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2018 07:41 |
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Snowman_McK posted:Is that the gang war shootout? Because that is amazing. I've seen very few gunfights that aim to show such chaos. Maybe the finale of Johnnie To's Drug War. It is, and it rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_Qhmiz40E Snowman_McK posted:I remember that scene being a really blatant 'we don't have Falcon doing anything' scene. Where they wrote this fight scene and showed about two punches of it, just to make sure everyone's busy in the finale, which is how all Marvel finales are obligated to work. Black Panther has one that really fucks up the text of the movie. Yeah, it just kinda gives them something to do (and Fury and Black Widow once they're done with Redford) but I enjoyed it mostly on the merits of Grillo and Anthony Mackie together. They're cool guys.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2018 02:38 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Killzone 2 (2016, Tony Jaa) has wire-fu and loving absolutely brutal hits and poo poo, wire work and chop-socky ain't the problem. drat, that movie loving rules
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 18:48 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:What are the best sword fights in a movie? Revenge of the Sith
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2018 19:35 |
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When the gently caress does Triple Threat come out?
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2018 16:25 |
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Outlaw Vern's book Seagalogy does a really good job of breaking down the different eras of Seagal and going over his obvious pet themes. It actually lays out his evolution pretty well. I just bought Vern's Yippee Ki-Yay-Moviegoer! which is less focused but still includes a ton of writing on action cinema.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2018 16:29 |
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Logan Marshall-Green is very much a low-rent Tom Hardy, but he's done a lot of solid work lately. Prometheus, The Invitation, the TV show Quarry. I'll always remember him as Ryan's brother from The O.C. though.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2018 22:04 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:didn't that end up being mostly a red herring since they figured it out after most of the people with fillings and earrings were already dead/taken over, or am I wrong on that? Something like that. They kinda subvert/deflate the blood test scene by doing a fillings check and I think the majority of characters just didn't have fillings.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2018 17:39 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:What's that other Affleck action movie from that era where his co-star is Charlize Theron? Reindeer Games?
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# ¿ May 11, 2018 22:21 |
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He's very good in the Undisputed and Universal Soldiers movies that he did, I also thought he was solid in Savage Dog. He's definitely kinda boring when he isn't given much to work with but he never phones in his physical performance, which is the important part.
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# ¿ May 14, 2018 15:35 |
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Yeah, that's a really good series. Like you said, it's not terribly in depth but they're good reads and mentioned some films I hadn't seen yet. I think they're doing a romantic films version of the feature currently, too.
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# ¿ May 14, 2018 21:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:01 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:But he pales next to OutlawVern If I judge things based on what is or isn't Outlaw Vern I'd only be able to enjoy one thing.
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# ¿ May 14, 2018 23:48 |