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SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Every come across a movie and wonder if it was secretly influential? I found the trailer for a movie called The Great Skycopter Rescue, which is a cheap exploitation movie about gyro-copters versus bikers. I have to wonder if George Miller ever saw it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjmvC-dmSTA

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SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Historical question: I just rewatched Commando, and I gotta know; what’s the first action movie of this breed? The genesis of what everyone mocks in 80s action movies? Commando’s the earliest I can think of, but there’s gotta be at least a couple before it.

First Blood really pushes the idea of a Special Forces Soldier as a one man army. Going back further than that, Billy Jack also deals with Green Berets as invincible. It just kept building and I think got exponentially more outlandish as time went on.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Wheat Loaf posted:

Didn't Sean Connery have a black belt in karate? I feel like I've read that someplace. Don't know if it's true or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOPTsDZIt4&t=2990s

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Wheat Loaf posted:

Does anyone recommend the Mel Gibson/Robert Downey Jr. movie Air America?

It's not without its charms, but it's pretty light weight stuff for what it covers. I'd put it a step below Good Morning Vietnam, it's a bit more cartoony than that.

Does have some nice aerial photography though.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Roth posted:

There's a prequel to The Thing?

It fails the Gene Siskel test of "is this movie more interesting than a film of the cast having lunch?

Given that it has a who's who of Norwegian actors in it and they apparently out partied the Americans every night, the answer is "no."

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Yes, when you describe things that aren't in the movie, it does sound very silly

https://imgur.com/a/eDOEWvk

SimonCat fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 15, 2018

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Fart City posted:

Hell, I’d say Die Harder is even kind of “meh” outside of like two set-pieces and William Sadler doing naked karate.

With A Vengeance is great, though.

The plot to Die Harder only works if you believe that there is only 1 airport within 2 hours flight time of D.C.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Lobok posted:

Well I have no allegiance to either the old M:I TV show or Knight Rider and twist-evil KITT sounds pretty cool.

The twist is it was KARR the whole time!

Do you think we can get Ridley Scott to direct?

SimonCat fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jul 23, 2018

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Taintrunner posted:

Not sure if this counts but my god is Fire Birds with Tommy Lee Jones and Nic Cage one hell of a cheesy helicopter porn knockoff of Top Gun. It’s a perfect double feature with The Substitute as far as ridiculous Drug War action movies go. Jones chews the hell out of the scenery as an aging chopper pilot trainer against Cage, who is just the worst meathead who you wish would die horribly.

My favorite is the bad guy chopper being an American AH-6 Little Bird they call a Scorpion for the sake of melodrama.

Fire Birds is so wonderfully bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwS7MuNCwFs

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Dog_Meat posted:

Anyone got opinions on the 2013 Japanese samurai version? I remember reading about it when it was coming out and thinking "holy poo poo!" but then I somehow forgot it even existed until now

It was OK, made a better trailer than a movie. Looked nice though.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Fart City posted:

The violence in the fourth film is really bizarre in the context of the franchise, because none of the other movies ever even came close to it. The rest have pretty bog standard 80’s action movie violence, and then Rambo drops in and turns into the world’s most intense Ragu commercial in the last twenty minutes.

It was directly addressing some of the criticisms of the earlier films, that Rambo never re-loads, that he never gets injured, and that the violence was sanitized.

I think it nicely circles back to First Blood. If this is what warfare in Vietnam was like for Rambo, no wonder he was so screwed up when he got home.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

MrBling posted:

to my eternal action movie thread shame, I've come to the realisation that there is a huge Tom Berenger shaped hole in my movie watching apart from Platoon.
I just remember going past a bunch of Sniper and The Substitute DVD covers every time at the shops.

From what I've been able to surmise through RT and wikipedia I should probably watch The Dogs of War and Shoot to Kill.

All the Sniper movies appear to be perfectly medium action movies (though they don't all star Berenger it seems) but are they crafted well enough that it is worth watching them?

I'm think I probably need this in my life though:

Breaking Point is a 2009 action-drama film starring Tom Berenger, Busta Rhymes, Musetta Vander and Sticky Fingaz.

Sinners and Saints appears to be a movie starring Johnny Strong, BAS RUTTEN, Method Man and loving Jürgen Prochnow alongside Berenger. Not to mention Costas Mandylor and his brother.
I'm gonna guess that Johnny and Bas fights at some point because what else is the point of having martial arts dudes in your movie.

The original Sniper is a legit good B-movie. Tom Berenger's character could be his character from Platoon 20 years later and a little mellowed out. The interesting thing is there is a US cut that features POV shots of the bullets like Prince of Thieve's arrow effects and a happier ending while the International cut is a lot grimmer.

That said, it gets pretty nasty in places and takes it as read that the US is performing extra-judicial assassinations in Central America.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Hard Target remains the best Van Damme movie.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

midge posted:

I recently discovered Stone Cold (1991). What an absolute blast! It also allows for some interesting cross-over potential with the "you forget to say please" dude from Terminator 2.

The entire thing is on YouTube. Lance Henriksen is on point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN-pRNfp8cA

Stone Cold is the greatest movie of all time.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

ruddiger posted:

The opening grocery store shootout is great, and Lance Henricksen and William Forsythe are goddamn amazing in it. That movie is so crazy.

Dead!Dead!Dead!Dead!Dead!Dead!Dead!Dead!Dead!

The most amazing thing about Stone Cold is the protagonist completely fails in his mission. He doesn't get the Brotherhood arrested, he lets them murder the prime witness and massacre the DA as well as the state supreme court and a ton of random civilians, yet he gets a rock and roll backed march out of the courthouse like he's a badass instead of a fuckup!

Stone Cold is also one of the gayest movies of all time. Not that that's a bad thing, but it's just so loaded with subtext that is at odds with the text of the film. The Boz is able to infiltrate the Brotherhood because one of the members, Gut, has a crush on him, and William Forsythe's character spends the whole movie jealous that the Boz has taken over all of Lance Henriksen's affections.

Also features some great bare chested wrestling by men with great hair.

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SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Is the Stallone anatomically correct under the speedo?

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

X-Ray Pecs posted:

The first is really underwhelming, the action lacks any punch or tension. The best parts are Van Damme eating unlimited food, and Body Count Is In The House playing over the end credits. Regeneration is really solid, it doesn’t do anything different or wild, but it’s a well-made cheap meat-and-potatoes action movie. It’s also DP’d by Peter Hyams, so it looks good.

The first one has a really good performance by Dolph Lundgren.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4CJvhAhMCQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxbb9xJWd1E

SimonCat fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Sep 28, 2019

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Stairmaster posted:

does stallone not realize he's old

When Demolition Man came out there were a ton of articles about how he had the body of a man half his age and he was only 45 then. He's always been concerned about aging/not looking as hold as he is, it's like he's compensating. I feel that Arnold is much more mature about this, having won so many body building championships that he doesn't feel the need to continue to pretend he's 25.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Halloween Jack posted:

Apparently shooting at night is very expensive, or used to be. Fox managed to make a Vampire: the Masquerade series that was mostly shot during the day.

They never heard of a day for night shot?

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Rewatched Fury Road today and it struck me that Immortan Joe must have been a big fan of Thulsa Doom.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Basebf555 posted:

Unless you literally have like a three entire rows all to yourself, stay the gently caress out of the theater.

They had one night only showing of Bullitt to advertise the new Ford Mustang a couple of years ago. My wife and I went and were literally the only 2 people in the theater.

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SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

married but discreet posted:

Not worth it, Aliens is overrated

1, 3, and Prometheus are better.

Hell, Predator 2 is better than Aliens.

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