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Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Carrying on a derail from the trailer thread.

This clip of a ceramic smashing fight scene from the new Mission Impossible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLiZeg6zU4M

Got me thinking of other great bathroom smashing fight scenes, right up there with elevators and commercial kitchens as a great venue for a cinematic brawl. A couple of my favourites:

True Lies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVEzoQzzd1I

And World's End (a few years old now, but major spoilers in this):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYs7uguB_JQ

With an honorable mention to -

The Bourne Identity, which is borderline as only the climax of the fight commits gratuitous acts of violence against porcelain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLt7lXDCHQ0

Wheat Loaf mentioned the cold open of Casino Royale as a notable omission:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvr6uRvESvM

Eastern Promise was also mentioned, amazing scene, but the damage here is almost entirely limited to flesh and bones, that fittings remain fairly unscathed (very NSFW):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd8TudYhSVw

Which reminded me of the Red Heat because :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWsx8A38vlk

I welcome any additions to the genre. The more tiles being destroyed by people punching them the better.

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Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side
Also, this is TV and an elevator rather than a bathroom, but I just wanted to mention the elevator fight from Altered Carbon because it was just so loving brutal and sudden and more people should watch that show, which while not perfect, had some pretty well choreographed fights and action scenes for TV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeyHttOw2uo

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

I am not on your side
So I guess there isn't enough action for you in Charly? :rolleyes:

I did guess right though, also supporting noms for Close Encounters and Star Wars and a win for uhhhh, Cocoon, but I guess only Star Wars is the only one that comes close to making the cut as action out of those.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 11, 2018

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Wheat Loaf posted:

Die Hard turns 30 this weekend. Now, I'm sure we all like Die Hard, so I'll ask this instead: what are our favourite Die Hard-alikes?

Mine is Cliffhanger.

Yeah, this would probably be mine as well. Still holds up relatively well, probably due to a lot of practical effects.

I have a soft spot for Broken Arrow, which I guess fits mostly fits the bill. It's not a single location, but it's mostly confined to one area in a similar way to Cliffhanger... and it's definitely wrong guy in the wrong place becoming a monkey-wrench in an elaborate plan. I haven't seen it in a while, but I doubt this one holds up.

I seem to recall a couple of TV shows having decent Die Hardish episodes, but can't remember which. Maybe Person of Interest?

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 13, 2018

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Wheat Loaf posted:

I liked Broken Arrow last time I saw it, which would've been sometime earlier this year. It's almost like a western, funnily enough, in that it's mostly out in the desert, it's got a train robbery and there's an abandoned mine. :v:

For some reason I always liked the fact that the nuke actually goes of, something that was pretty :monocle: to me at the time. True Lies did it first (well not literally, but for an action film as part of the plot, not a flash-forward/flash-back or final scene perhaps?), Broken Arrow, The Peacekeeper, The Sum of All Fears. There's probably loads more now, but these ones all made a big impression on me. at the time. I think, and showing my age a little here, a big part of was some kind of post cold-war transition from nukes being the ultimate bogeyman that would end the world to eh, whatever, just a really big explosion that makes for a good set piece.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Wheat Loaf posted:

But the weirdest thing about the movie is that Denzel Washington is in it at all. I know he's not below schlock and he's actually very good in it, but this came two years after he won his first Oscar, his next movie was Malcolm X. I'm trying to think of a similar "They were in that?" where a "respectable" actor has this one really goofy movie in their filmography right in the phase of their career where they're getting loads of comparatively heavy duty roles.

Could be argued that Denzel did it again a few years later with Virtuosity.

Most of the examples I could think of involved voice acting or kids films, which I don't think count as they're kind of a special case.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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So aside from the story/ideology stuff people are arguing about, how does Sicario 2 hold up in terms of cinematography and editing (and score for that matter)? The way it was crafted was the main draw of the first for me, despite some issues I had with the plot. Interested to know if this tries to imitate or it's doing it's own thing.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Haven't had a chance to see Fallout yet dammit. Glad response seems to be mostly positive.

Speaking of MI3:

https://twitter.com/ben_rosen/status/1023977708043169792

Edit: VVV or a disposable little gag that amused me when it showed up in my twitter feed, even if it is out of context, while I was just thinking about MI3 and how much I liked PSH and that scene/sequence.

I'll counter it with this to restore balance to the universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLNUIU7AzTg

That's the good stuff.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jul 30, 2018

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Payndz posted:

"Looks like you won't be attending that hat convention!" :haw:

I laughed way too hard at this quote from movie I haven't seen in at least a decade. I feel the need to rectify that as soon as possible.

e: Looking up my options for viewing it and I found this:



And I'm wondering if they decided to make this a double feature due to both being action-comedy box office bombs for (at the time) big action stars, or due to having HH titles or both.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Aug 26, 2018

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Wheat Loaf posted:

They're rebooting Charlie's Angels with Kristen Stewart and some others. I suspect they'll take it too seriously and try to make it really dark and dramatic, generally Very Serious. The tone of the McG films is what I think they should be aiming for with Charlie's Angels.

Given the people behind it (Elizabeth Banks as director and her and her husband who produced all the Pitch Perfect films producing) dark, dramatic and serious seems pretty unlikely. Probably more likely to go the other way.

On a tangential (via Charlie's Angels and Cameron Diaz) note I watched Knight and Day last night for some reason. It's not particular good, but has a couple of nice set pieces and Cruise is clearly having fun (and as a result is fun to watch) in it. The one thing that really stood out was just how "fake" some of the traditional Tom Cruise motorbikes and running action felt. That's probably almost entirely due to having recently watched a few Mission Impossibles recently.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Aug 26, 2018

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Fart City posted:

It’s great because horse riding stunts have literally been a thing since the inception of film, but I see a picture of John Wick riding a horse and I’m like, “hot drat, they’re finally gonna get it right.”

A homage to the classic equine vs motorbike action of yore

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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High Warlord Zog posted:

Re-watched Where Eagles Dare. I keep forgetting how much fun this is. Obviously Clint Eastwood duel wielding machine pistols against endless Nazis inside an exploding castle is awesome. But the caper-ish stuff holds up too. The big midpoint misdirection set-piece where Richard Burton talks circles around the bad guys is wonderful. It's all very Mission Impossible: WWII and I'm surprised that a remake hasn't been floated yet.

Absolutely. I don't think any of those films based on Alistair MacLean books have been remade. Band of misfits doing sneaking around, doing heists/crimes seems like such a no brainer. Wonder if there's some kind of rights issue... or maybe you just make The Expendables, Fast & Furious 8 or Rogue One instead and then you don't have to worry about rights.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Payndz posted:

No idea who you'd cast to get the same combination of bad-boy gravitas and laconic cool as Burton and Eastwood

They won't try even bother trying and will just cast Tom Hardy and Michael Fassbender

While checking about rights I found out that MacLean is apparently buried yards from Burton. Bless.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Payndz posted:

I've been watching various Seventies movies recently, in part for the retro pleasures of watching chases involving cars the size of boats wallowing around on suspensions apparently made from sponge. It prompted a couple of thoughts: firstly, would films like The French Connection, the Dirty Harry series and their numerous 'tough cop' ripoffs ("Mitchell!", McQ, The Seven-Ups, etc) count as 'action movies' by modern standards? They've got action in them, but it tends to come in short bursts or one big car chase, rather than massive escalating setpieces.

Makes me wonder when "action" even started to be used as a named genre. I feel like the real "action" films of the seventies are more likely to be whacky hijinx type stuff (starring Burt Reynolds) and perhaps some war films.

On a tangent, Dirty Harry (the film and the character) is actually far goofier than I expected in the first movie, simething they moved away from in the sequels and, speaking of escalating stakes, I remember the big action climax in one of the Dirty Harry films (the one with Tyne Daily, forget the name) was Harry firing a rocket launcher and instantly killing the bad guy.

e: Looked it up, The Enforcer. Also while looking some stuff up... holy crap that's some body of work you got there Don Siegel

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Dec 11, 2018

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Not a single person (due to the size of the explosion), but a friend and I nearly got kicked out of the Untouchables because we got the giggles from this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skxqbkpLE90&t=105s

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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I mean Eric Bogosian is the bad guy and Big Ed is his muscle, so gently caress yeah Under Siege 2 is worth a watch

It's a combo right up there with John Lithgow and Craig Fairbrass in Cliffhanger

Also Trains > Boats

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 4, 2019

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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A lot of the shittier "Netflix Originals" aren't actually comissioned or funded at the production level by Netflix. They're picked up on the cheap because they can't get distribution rights elsewhere and in the past would have be Straight-to-Video.

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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The opening car chase is all kinds of absurd. I'm not sure how long it is, but it felt like half an hour and went through about 4 or 5 complete shifts in music. Well made and some cool shots in it though.

My biggest issue was the fact that the tone is all over the place. For the most part it's a quippy PG action romp, that I'd happily watch with my kid. But there's a fair bit of sudden unessecary gore or nastiness that comes so out-of-the-blue it feels completely tacked on for no apparent reason. I don't have a problem with gruesome action films, but it feels totally out of place here. This is actually kind of weird because they are so obviously setting it up to be a big dumb Fast and Furious style franchise... which I'm not sure if there's much chancde of happening. Likewise the protagonists' complete disregard for civilian casualties (to the point of joking about it) as they go after a real bad dude who they don't like because of his complete disregard for civilian casualties is kind of :shrug:

And yeah, that parkour guy is just so loving dumb. Especially during the initial car chase. It's one of those things that makes so little sense and adds so little I don't know how it got past the script stage. I was cracking up when they decided to throw in some random skateboarding as well. Just as funny during the Hong Kong stuff where he's being chased by armed goons and he's parkouring the gently caress out of it to get away from them and they don't seem to have any trouble whatsoever keeping up with him just running through rooms and down stairs like a normal person would, came close to parody.

I watch plenty of bad action films late at night when I can't sleep and this is like the most high budget and production value bad action film I've seen so still gets some thumbs up if your expectations are low.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Dec 16, 2019

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Speaking of Stuntmen and things to do if you're bored: youtubiness aside (don't forget to like, subscribe and how about those VPNS) I've been enjoying Corridor's Stuntmen React videos, especially any featuring Gui DaSilva. One thing that surprised me was how much of the stunt work in the Marvel movies is practical, despite all the CGI everywhere else.

This is Gui's first episode featuring a lot of his work as Black Panther:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAxmIxGXMOY

I've enjoyed most other episodes as well. The stuntpeople always seem pretty down-to-earth and it's interesting to see some of this stuff from their perspective. The whole "react to bad and great" angle is pretty clickbaity and there's really not a lot of "bad" at all (after a star wars bit in the first episode), it's mostly a celebration practical stuntwork in general.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Apr 23, 2020

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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The thing I remember most about 6 Underground is the parkour stuff. There was one scene where one of them is trying to escape an abandoned office building by parkouring all over the place and bouncing off stairs and balconies and all the usual stuff... but the regular goons with guns on foot were just keeping up with him by jogging though the building like normal people. I'm pretty sure it wasn't even a bit or anything. That and the entire plot revolving around bringing down some military dictator who they have a beef with because they don't give a drat about civilian casualties and collateral damage... despite the fact the protagonists clearly don't give a gently caress about civilian casualties and collateral damage.

Also, you can't have the leader who comes up with all the plans, the mysterious billionarie funding your off--the-books organisation, the tech-genius gadget guy and the wisecracking sarcastic comedy relief all be the same person in a team of renegade operatives. That's how your ensemble cast ends up being Ryan Reynolds and 5 other people you don't remember or care about and you end up fleshing out the ranks with parkour guy and the like.

It's the sort of film I'd leave on if I was channel hopping and came across it (not that that's a thing with Netflix). But I'd probably be watching it wishing I'd come across The Losers instead.

Will def be checking out Extraction later this week.

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Apr 27, 2020

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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Basebf555 posted:

I see that several Cynthia Rothrock action flicks are on Prime. Is any of her stuff worth checking out? I've seen her on a few action movie documentaries and I've always been curious if they were actually any good.

Even though she kicks all kinds of rear end, most of the American films she's in (or the ones I've seen) are typical 80s/90s cheesy straight to video action flicks (Michael Dudikoff type stuff). Nothing particularly memorable.

She was support in a few Hong Kong films before that before she was the lead in US ones. I've only seen fights from those... the Sammo one linked above probably the best example (Also damnnnn, that smash from Sammo at 1:35! Is that her or a double?)

Gravy Jones fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 1, 2020

Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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On a martial arts related note can someone ID this half-remembered Jackie Chan film/scene for me?

He's in some kind of warehouse, or possibly a dock or something, lots of boxes. He's on foot being chased by cars has to jump up and grab a bar over his head and either do the splits or swing around the bar or something to dodge a car that passes beneath him. It wasn't one of his flashiest stunts but always stuck with me in a "gently caress that one up and you're dead" way, but haven't seen it in decades and can't remember what film it's in. I keep thinking Wheel on Meals but that mught just be because it had cars in it. Pretty sure it's from the Sammo/Biao comedy era though.

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Gravy Jones
Sep 13, 2003

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MrBling posted:

You're probably thinking of this scene from Armour of God 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tA-9m3j7_Q

edit: skip to 2:30 if you don't want to see jackie chan doing cool stuff on a bike

Awesome, thanks man, that's the one.

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