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B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Wandle Cax posted:

Bizarre yes, terrible no, I thought it really unique, inventive and quite impressive. Can't have been easy to do all that underwater and there were very long takes made to look like one long take. Nice to see something different attempted anyway before the mostly routine though entertaining 80s action fest that the rest of the movie was.

I don't know how uniquely Chinese the patriotism is in the movie, like you could almost just swap the Chinese for Americans and change the flag and you'd have something pretty close to a jingoistic American military movie.

e: ^^ Wow that Red Sea movie is now the 2nd most successful Chinese film. They really are embracing their 80s rah-rah action film era over there

I think some of the more patriotic scenes would feel off if they were put in an american movie. I am mainly thinking of when they realize they are actually under attack and take off their unit patches and put on the Chinese flag patches.

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B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Universal soldier: day of reckoning is a great action movie and Adkins is pretty awesome in it. The last 15 minutes is pretty batshit.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Wheat Loaf posted:

This might be the wrong thread to ask in, but I'm not sure where would be more appropriate: does anybody have any recommendations for sort of "neo-western" movies? I am thinking of things along the lines of No Country for Old Men or Hell and High Water, but I'd also be happy with things on the pulpier end of the spectrum like Walter Hill's Extreme Prejudice.

Small Town Crime is pretty good and is free on Netflix now. I would also highly recommend The Proposition, it's one of my favorite movies but is beyond bleak.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Mr Shiny Pants posted:

Banshee is cool, Justified also.

Also Strike Back. I dont know if I like it more than Banshee but the chemistry between Scott and Stonebridge is amazing. Last two seasons with a new crew are ok as well.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Mr Shiny Pants posted:

I just love the lines Olyphant has in Justified. He and Boyd are just fun to watch.

"The next one will be coming faster."

That's a great line (and I love his boss making fun of him for it later) but Boyd's "you're a conquistador" speech is my favorite.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Adkins is apparently in the next IP Man movie which has me pretty psyched for it.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




My wife and I have been going through the older Jackie Chan movies and it is so frustrating that drunken master ii and Police Story 2 aren't available on Prime. Supercop and Project A are available though and both are a ton of fun

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




DeimosRising posted:

Police story 2 is on criterion, and theyíre adding several other of his early films next month

I legit didn't know the criterion channel was a thing so thank you for this.

In action movie news we are watching Ip Man 4 tonight looking forward to some Yen/Adkins action.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Iko seems to do ok speaking English on Wu Assassin which is a pretty ok action series on Netflix. It's not fantastic but has good action scenes and got me through the first week of quarantine

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Basebf555 posted:

For me it will always be Hard Boiled. As far as his Hollywood movies though, I actually think the one that hangs together the most and holds up as a legit action movie is Broken Arrow. Face Off is a lot of fun but most of that is the performances.

Once a week I go on the Just Watch app and put in hard boiled and then get really sad. It's easily my favorite John Woo movie and pretty much got me into action movies

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




dokmo posted:

He is exactly the same guy in real life as he is in John Wick, it's amazing.

That's exactly what I thought as well. I am really just hoping the series ends with Keanu Reeves coming on and asking Scott to be his partner in the next two John Wick movies

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Speaking if Scott Atkins has anyone heard of 36 cinema. They are doing a stream of My Lucky Stars on Friday and Scott Adkins is doing live commentary which sounds amazing.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




I paid 8 dollars for mine...

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




flashy_mcflash posted:

Oh sorry! It says something about a code so maybe you're supposed to use that. It doesn't seem to be working one way or the other for me in Canada so I guess it's geolocked.

Oh no I ordered it on Monday from I believe a different site. I was fake complaining

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Day Of Reckoning kicks rear end. I am trying to distract myself from my wife's upcoming surgery/hospital stay and that is near the top of the list I made to watch.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Halloween Jack posted:

Oof. Just went through that.

Well we already dealt with her tumor removal, chemo and hospitalization from covid when she started chemo back in Feb. This is just to put in permanent colostomy. Colon cancer is a loving bitch (she is 35 and was diagnosed last year like two weeks after the birth of our 2nd kid).

Made a list for what to watch each night after I get the kids down, no deep dives but wanted to represent all my favorite stars and these are all movies I love

Kiss of the Dragon
Kill Zone 2
Wheels on Meals
Universal Soldier Day of Reckoning
The Raid 2 (I have seen the original like ten times, this one only once
Kung Fu Panda 2 (gonna do our oldest first stay up late movie night)

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Hirez posted:

went to go watch The Boys on Prime, and saw it's being released weekly (3 eps only so far - but thats for another thread ) so instead watched The Mercenary

After having just watched Debt Collector 2, I wasn't really feeling Louis Mandylor as a "bad-rear end", tough, yes, but after this - man, he plays a great bad-rear end mother fucker.

It has everything an action movie should have, including having a priest declare you a weapon of god and go loving kill everyone and a training montage. It has some plot holes to keep it entertaining, and some fights just aren't long enough with some of the main bad guys, but there are a lot of them so to be expected, you still get like a 20 minute "climax zone" leading up to the end. 3.5/5

Also directed by Jesse V. Johnson, who now I'm a huge fan of. It's really cool that all these Stunt guys turned out to be amazing directors, seems to get to know a lot about the shooting the process


I mean I'm just going to assume you've seen Dredd but have to point of the obvious.

There's also The Night Comes for Us and Headshot with Iko Uwais if you wanna go all out crazy - highly recommend the former if you're in that mood - from the same producers/directors/whatever of the raid films if I remember right.

I would also recommend the Keanu directed/starring: The Man of Tai Chi. It's got a cool 80's/90's feel to it. It's got some amazing fight scenes throughout and the story is good enough. Tiger Chen is lethal

I love Dredd, I managed to see it opening night at an imax theater. I like headshot a little better than The Night Comes for Us, I think the gore is a little too much but it still has some amazing fight scenes. Watched Kiss of the Dragon for the first time in like 15 years last night, good action but pretty misogynistic which made sense when I saw Luc Besson wrote it.

If you haven't yet, check out Warrior on Cinemax. I can't figure out how Cinemax tapped directly into my brain because combining the producer of Banshee, director of Fast 5 and the writings of Bruce Lee is pretty my my dream action fantasy.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




null_pointer posted:

Speaking of Dolph lundgren, the "have we gone through this all before?"speech, at the end of universal soldier regeneration shows that the man has got some pretty decent acting chops. I've really come to appreciate him a lot more, and I'm looking forward to the podcast with Adkins.

He's really good in Creed 2. Both he and stallone do a lot of good work in that movie but I think it gets overlooked cause it's another rocky movie.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Neo Rasa posted:

Batman Begins is a huge offender to me too. It's not even cut THAT badly or particularly hard to follow (and the staccato-ness of it matches how Batman is generally working by dropping in and out of sight and quickly taking out folks), but like, they were really talking up the keysi fighting method bullshit and how they put in a lot of work to use that with how Batman would work to make a unique fighting style and stuff and like, if you committed that much why would you not show it?

I think they don't show it because it actually looks really stupid. A friend of mine actually went and lived at the monestary that developed it and the entire style pretty much revolves around holding your head and doing elbows

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




The only time Keysi looked ok on screen was mission impossible 3 when the bomb gets activated in Tom Cruise's head and he is grabbing his head in pain while fighting. And I am not even sure if they were purposely using it or just scripted the fight scene around him being in pain.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




So I think what Jackie Chan is really good at is knowing what he is good at when it comes to stunts and fighting/choreographing an awesome scene around it. His really good fights have a flow to them that requires the camera to be zoomed out to have an actual appreciation for what he is doing. Matt Damon might have known the moves and been able to do them well but the Bourne movies were shot in a way where the fast cuts made sense (and even then I don't think they were that bad).

Now the taken movies are an example of horrible cuts to make up for the fact that the star is like 90 years old with no fighting experience.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Basebf555 posted:

I just figured out that Millionaire's Express is actually on Prime under it's alternate title, Shanghai Express. Very excited to check it out after all the mentions it got in the Adkins youtube series.

Thank you for this holy crap this movie rules

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




There is also a surprisingly good show on Amazon called Jean Claude Van Johnson that I would recommend. I was super bummed that it only had one season

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Just watched Seized cause I love Scott Adkins. Definitely recommend it and had some sweet fight scenes. My only complaint with his movies is he really just needs to spend a few days with a firearms instructor, I really don't need him to go full Keanu and I know I am being pretty pedantic but it's generally pretty clear he has no experience with guns. That being said the movie the movie rocks

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Snowman_McK posted:

Not having a go because it's a long way from my expertise, but what did he do to show that?

Honestly and again I know I am being pedantic but it's a lot of little stuff that kind of adds up. Oddly enough with Seized it kind of almost made sense since it was a little better in that some of his movements and techniques were being taught like 15 years ago which worked with his character in the movie. But stuff like him putting spare rifle mags on his strong side and how he moves with a pistol stand out. (He never goes to the sul position and is generally very stiff with it)

Again the movie rocks (and god I feel like a huge dork now)

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Snowman_McK posted:

we're all dorks here, it's cool. I was just curious. The base standard on that stuff has gone up so much, though. I rewatched Rambo 2 and the bit where he just sort of wiggles the gun while firing, resulting in four kills is loving embarassing.

Oh yeah the standard has definitely been raised over the years. Honestly I think it more stands out for me with Adkins because with his art of action series it's clear how much he cares and trains to make his action scenes kick rear end.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005





I am afraid to rewatch that in case it doesn't hold up but I loved that movie as a kid. I still regularly use the "what would ____ say if he was alive today" joke from it

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




I love the Raid and Raid 2 and all the other movies done by those stunt teams but Night Comes for Us is just too much and I am just exhausted by the end and not in a good way. I think the Art of Action with Gareth Evans kind of explains his views on violence in movies, he mentions cutting fast away from a horrific injury and that makes the action effective but NCFU just lingers on it and I just don't like it. Which stinks cause the fights scenes are insanely well done.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




I wouldn't call it a full action movie but Triple 9 is on Netflix now. Its a pretty bleak cop movie by the director of The Proposition and The Road but has some decent action set pieces and acting.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005





I knew what scene that was even before I clicked the link

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




I recently rewatched Kiss of the Dragon and didn't finish it because it was just way to misogynistic for me. Shocking that a movie written by Luc Besson would be like that I know.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




poonchasta posted:

I remember enjoying My Father, the Hero. It has a ridiculous scene where Li is under a truck and keeps himself from getting run over by rolling really fast to outrun the tires.

His fight scene with Gerard Depardieu is good as well. I also remember seeing Romeo must Die like a thousand times in theaters but haven't done a rewatch recently.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




mastershakeman posted:

Yeah I don't know what it is about Jet Li but ive never enjoyed a movie where he's the lead. The two I like most with him are LW4 and Hero (one of my all time favorite movies )

Vvvvv exactly what I was thinking of. Greatest introduction of a foreign actor to america

So much better than Donnie Yen's. Although I do have a soft spot for The Replacement Killers which is I think Chow Yun-Fat's first american movie and it rules.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Narzack posted:

Would you consider Highlander or Blade 2 his intro?

Highlander. I mean I might have been the only one in the entire country to see it so maybe Blade 2 should count

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




thatfuturekid posted:

Itís mentioned in the streaming thread, but Warrior(Show, not the MMA drama) is on HBO Max! I havenít watched it yet but I know people seem to love it

It's freaking awesome. If you ever watched banshee it's by the creator of that and Justin Lin. Season 2 episode 9 has a homage to Bruce lee that loving rocks and the fights are awesome.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Narzack posted:

Mile 22. I'm still not sure how I feel about that one. As an action movie, though, it's okay. Peter Berg knows how to shoot gunplay, but I felt that the stuff with Iko was kind of poorly shot and edited.

It was too "agro" for me and yeah Iko was way too underused. But the part where Walberg tells a guy "there comes a time in every man's life where he must raise the black flag and start slitting throats" just seemed way too off a grunt style shirt (mainly because they literally sell a shirt that says that)

I like Berg and he can shoot action well but he needs to get off the Mark Wahlberg train and make some new stuff.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Firstborn posted:

"What the matter, MacLeod?! Don't you want to be inside me?" - Jacob uhh Kell? Highlander: Endgame

The fact that that is somehow not the dumbest joke he makes is shocking.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




jase1 posted:

I know itís not an action movie and Iím not sure if this has been discussed but I finally was able to go through Banshee and I really enjoyed that show. The fights are brutal but itís a lot of fun. Itís like Cinemax took a softcore porn movie and added good fight scenes to it.

Check out strike back as well. It has some fantastic action pieces and the gunplay is awesome. Plus the chemistry between the two main leads is great.


Buddy

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




Narzack posted:

Funny you mentioned this, since I myself just started watching it. I'm on the second season, and it's wildly different from the first. So far, the second season is a lot more fun, for sure. The first season is kind of more a spy-type thriller with some unexciting to middling gun action, but it's not horrible. On the other hand, the second season doesn't seem to have Jodhi May, so it does have that flaw.

I actually haven't seen the first season, I think cinemax calls it Strike Back Origins. After the second season the action really ramps up as well, you can tell they did a ton more training for the guys as well. If you want a pretty good example of what combat pistol training looks like now, watch Stonebridge, the actor does a really really good job with it.

The final few seasons with a new cast are pretty good as well but the main characters really don't have the awesome chemistry that Scott and Stonebridge have

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B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005




It's kind of connected but watching the first season isn't required at all. I have never seen it and I consider strike back one of my favorite shows

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