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ah yes, the classic Linux desktop excuse that your distro / window manager is the wrong one and terrible but my distro / window manager is not broken garbage.
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The Management posted:ah yes, the classic Linux desktop excuse that your distro / window manager is the wrong one and terrible but my distro / window manager is not broken garbage. gnome 3 is fine but it was explicitly designed not to be customizable at all hey why doesn't this motorcycle have four wheels and a tow hitch!?!
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Jul 24, 2017 15:57
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The Management posted:ah yes, the classic Linux desktop excuse that your distro / window manager is the wrong one and terrible but my distro / window manager is not broken garbage. your operating system is a piece of poo poo
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Jul 24, 2017 16:01
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The Management posted:ah yes, the classic Linux desktop excuse that your distro / window manager is the wrong one and terrible but my distro / window manager is not broken garbage. I mean IMO it's the window and package managers that ultimately decides how much of a pita the Linux is. Arch Linux at least has a usable package manager. But window managers almost universally suck on Linux.
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Jul 24, 2017 16:16
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the window manager situation is a microsm of the larger linux ecosystem there are dozens of choices, but only a couple of them are mainstream. there are standards and standards bodies, but most are poorly written, incomplete, or both. it's nearly impossible to write your own window manager due to complexity and unwritten rules, but the answer to any question about design in the major projects is "gently caress off and write your own if you don't like it"
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Jul 24, 2017 16:20
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Xfce is okay, it looks like hot poo poo, but at least it's lightweight and won't break on you.
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Jul 24, 2017 16:20
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if you find only arch linux to `not suck` you are quietly telegraphing how huge of a turbonerd you actually are
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Jul 24, 2017 16:35
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Captain Foo posted:if you find only arch linux to `not suck` you are quietly telegraphing how huge of a turbonerd you actually are can't be worse than ubuntu, right?
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Jul 24, 2017 16:37
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:can't be worse than ubuntu, right? it is because of the time you have to sink into it to function as well (or poorly) as ubuntu
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Jul 24, 2017 16:46
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but ubuntu brand linux is the one microsoft recommends!
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Jul 24, 2017 16:56
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i think WSL supports fedora too, in case you wanted to be sure nothing worked
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Jul 24, 2017 16:57
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lxss is pretty cool from an implementation standpoint
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Jul 24, 2017 16:58
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 finaly, linux on the desktop
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Jul 24, 2017 16:59
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oh I didn't realize that was gonna be on the store. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/05/11/new-distros-coming-to-bashwsl-via-windows-store/
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Jul 24, 2017 17:13
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unironically the best way to use a loonix
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Jul 24, 2017 17:27
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infernal machines posted:
lmao this is great
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Jul 24, 2017 17:33
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Ubuntu is wonderful and perfect and I am not suffering from Stockholm Syndrome/Being a Lazy Turd
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Jul 24, 2017 18:43
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Boiled Water posted:it is because of the time you have to sink into it to function as well (or poorly) as ubuntu you don't have to sink any appreciable time into it for it to function well.
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Jul 24, 2017 18:46
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the only annoying thing is initial setup but still you only do it once, it only takes like an hour, and there's a whole wiki page detailing the exact steps to take. there's even distros or arch that provide a pretty gui installer for incompetant computer janitors.
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Jul 24, 2017 18:50
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infernal machines posted:
gnu/windows looking good
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Jul 24, 2017 18:51
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qhat posted:there's a whole wiki page detailing the exact steps to take. so why not just make it work out of the box?
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Jul 24, 2017 19:02
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gotta funroll-loops my bespoke kernel so my glorified BOFH wank fantasy text editor opens .3 µseconds faster
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Jul 24, 2017 19:06
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infernal machines posted:so why not just make it work out of the box? idk, it used to have an installer years ago but i guess it broke at some point and fixing it wasn't considered a priority given their resources, and installing using the wiki genuinely takes less than an hour even for a dumbass. but like i said, there's perfectly fine distros like antegros and manjaro that provide a user friendly installer.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:07
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infernal machines posted:so why not just make it work out of the box? qhat posted:fixing it wasn't considered a priority linux.odf
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Jul 24, 2017 19:09
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infernal machines posted:linux.odf sounds like you weren't interested in knowing a solution to your question at any rate.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:11
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you know, sometimes i get the impression that some posters in the your operating system is a piece of poo poo subforum aren't posting entirely earnestly.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:13
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Jul 24, 2017 19:14
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also lol if you don't think "yeah we broke it, but who cares, there's a wiki for lusers anyway" isn't the most linux response to the question "why doesn't this poo poo work out of the box?"
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Jul 24, 2017 19:15
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infernal machines posted:also lol if you don't think "yeah we broke it, but who cares, there's a wiki for lusers anyway" isn't the most linux response to the question "why doesn't this poo poo work out of the box?" the response was actually "go fix it yourself", which at least more than one person did
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Jul 24, 2017 19:16
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it's weird how the only usable linux distros are the ones that sell corporate support, where the devs have actual funding, and aren't an unholy amalgam of hobbyist projects
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Jul 24, 2017 19:18
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it's kind of funny how tolerant some developers are of how frustrating it can sometimes be to install development libraries/tools/etc on operating systems like OSX, but meltdown at the sight of a wiki page and a command line.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:20
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~*opens app store, types "xcode", clicks install*~ ~*tears out hair in frustration*~
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Jul 24, 2017 19:22
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infernal machines posted:it's weird how the only usable linux distros are the ones that sell corporate support, where the devs have actual funding, and aren't an unholy amalgam of hobbyist projects counter-point: arch is perfectly usable.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:23
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infernal machines posted:~*opens app store, types "xcode", clicks install*~ still haven't managed to get gdb to work on OSX. installing mysql was a pain too and there was no consistent instructions online. then i installed arch and had everything i needed up and running within 2 hours.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:24
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windows is the only platform suitable for professional software development work and now with lxss, you can even do amateur development!
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Jul 24, 2017 19:25
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Shaggar posted:windows is the only platform suitable for professional software development work. i'd sooner use windows than osx. windows even has a linux shell now.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:26
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i stand by my assertion that linux is only useful if your goal is to make more linux.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:26
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qhat posted:still haven't managed to get gdb to work on OSX. installing mysql was a pain too and there was no consistent instructions online. then i installed arch and had everything i needed up and running within 2 hours. Use lldb.
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infernal machines posted:i stand by my assertion that linux is only useful if your goal is to make more linux. in tyool 2017, this is a large proportion of all technology jobs
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