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KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
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BATTLEGROUND July 23rd

WWE Championship Punjabi Prison Match
Jinder Mahal escaped the Punjabi Prison to defeat Randy Orton and retain his title. The match sucked except for a Singh Brother falling to his death off the Punjabi Prison and through an announce table. Also Great Khali came back and almost killed Orton so his brother-in-law could retain the title.

Breezango were attacked and Fandango was abducted.

Sami Zayn defeated Mike Kanellis & Love.

Flag Match
John Cena defeated Rusev by putting the US Flag on a pedestal. This was a bad match and also the forgot to put the flags on the poles at the start of the match.

US Championship Match
Kevin Owens defeated AJ Styles to become the new US Champion after AJ didn't want to kick out of getting rolled up. Also there was a pointless ref bump. Also this was probably a botched finish in a heatless match.

#1 Contender's 5 Woman Elimination Match
Natalya defeated Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch, Lana and Tamina to become the #1 Contender. Naomi was ringside and wanted to shake Nattie's hand but Nattie walked off.
Order of eliminations:
-Becky submitted Tamina
-Becky submitted Lana
-Natalya pinned Becky
-Natayla pinned Charlotte

Shinsuke Nakamura defeated Baron Corbin by DQ when Corbin kicked Nakamura in the dick after he was beating down Nakamura all match. He then beat down Nakamura after the match.

WWE Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match
The New Day (Xavier and Kofi) defeated The Usos to become new and only Raw & Smackdown Tag Team champions in the best match of the night.

Pre-Show Kick-Off Match
Aiden English defeated Tye Dillinger

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AUG 20!!!

WWE Universal Title Fatal 4 Way Match
Brock Lesnar(c) w/ Paul Heyman vs. Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman vs. Samoa Joe

WWE Smackdown Women's Title Match
Naomi(c) w/ The Glow vs. Natalya

WWE Raw Women's Title Match
Alexa Bliss(c) vs. Bayley

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Raw Results

from the wrestling observer


Angle came out and said he had been distracted over the past few months over the fact that Jordan was his son. He announced that Jordan would have his first Raw match tonight. Angle shifted the subject to the Reigns-Joe-Strowman situation. He was about to announce who Lesnar would face at SummerSlam when Strowman came out and said the next words out of Angle's mouth better be "Braun Strowman" or else. He said, unlike Reigns and Joe, he won at Great Balls of Fire, that Lesnar fears him and that he would be the Universal Champion. That brought out Joe, who walked out to "Joe" chants. Joe said he was the man who came within seconds of putting Lesnar to sleep, he doesn't fear Lesnar and he doesn't fear Strowman. Joe said the only thing Strowman accomplished my interfering in his match last week was keeping Reigns from losing to him for the third straight time. Joe told Angle to give the beast to him.

Reigns walked down to loud boos past a sign that said "I miss Tom Zenk." Reigns said neither Joe or Reigns have done anything, while in five years he had been a tag team champion, a 3-time world champion, a U.S. champion, had headlined three WrestleManias and retired the Undertaker. He asked Joe and Reigns what they have done. They remained silent. Reigns said he'll showed them what he's about to do. Reigns started to go after Joe when Angle stepped between them. Angle said Lesnar would face Joe, Reigns and Strowman in a Fatal Four-Way match at SummerSlam for the Universal Championship.

Joe was mad over that announcement and screamed at Angle. Strowman said he didn't care if it was one-on-one, two-on-one, he just wanted to pile bodies. Regins told him to shut up and punched Strowman in the mouth. Reigns started to fight back, but Joe joined Reigns and sent him to the floor, then dumped him in into the crowd. Joe sucker-punched Reigns and they brawled into the ring. Strowman recovered to send Reigns to the ring. Angle then ordered security to come out to separate them, put Stowman cleared the ring, with one guard being thrown over the top rope to the floor rihgt on his hip. Angle cleared the locker room with Axel, Dallas, Heath Slater, Curt Hawkins, R-Truth, Karl Anderson, Goldust and many others trying to pull them apart, but Reigns set almost all of them to the floor. Strowman wound up giving Reigns the Oklahoma Stampede and walked out while Dash Wilder and Scott Dawson held Joe back.

Elias Samson defeated Finn Balor in a no-DQ match (18:26)

Balor had Samson pinned after four chair shots across Samson's back, a corner drop kick and the Coup de Grace. Then Bray Wyatt appeared in the ring and gave Samson Sister Abigail. Samson crawled over Balor for the pin. A good match where Samson introduced the chair when a shot across Balor's back. Balor's left shoulder was taped after Samson's guitar shot from lat week. Samson worked on that arm most of the way. Balor turned the tables with a unique spot where he trapped Samson's body inside the ring apron, then kicked and punched him at will. Crowd was really into the match, particularly Balor. Afterwards, Wyatt crab walked from the corner over Balor's body and hovered over him.

They showed a package of Renee Young's interview with Angle and Jordan last week. Young, in her first Raw backstage appearance in a long time, then interviewed Angle as Jordan was about to face Curt Hawkins. Angle started to say he was a nervous father watching his son compete in a match. Emma walked in and asked Angle what she had to do to get ahead. She claimed to have started the Women's Revolution, only to have Sasha Banks and Alexa Bliss get more opportunities than her. She said she figured the way to get ahead was to start dating Jordan. Angle gave her a match tonight with Nia Jax, which didn't leave Emma happy.

Enzo Amore was backstage about to fight Big Cass. Big Show asked Enzo if facing Cass tonight was a good idea. Enzo said screw plans, he was going to take the fight to Cass. Show just watched Enzo leave like a lamb walking to his slaughter.

Enzo did a prematch promo calling himself the little engine that could that's fueled strictly by passion and he's got a full tank. He said the key that starts his engine were the people. Enzo said Cass had lost the key to success and Cass' tank is running on E. Enzo quoted Drake that Cass was like the finish line and he can't wait to run into him.

Big Cass defeated Enzo Amore (3:36)

Cass won a squash with a big boot. Cass hit two Empire Elbows are basically destroyed Amore, who got in a brief bit of offense with a dropkick to the knee.

Show came out as Cass continued to punish Enzo postmatch. Cass warned Show not to get in the ring or else he would break Enzo's neck. Show got in the ring anyway. Cass threw Enzo into Show, then gave Show a boot to the ribs. Cass beat up Show using an Empire Elbow and various other big man moves. Michael Cole talked about how it's time for Enzo to move on from Cass.

Bliss did a promo with Young. She said she wasn't worried about SummerSlam. Tonight, she said Bayley and Banks would destroy their friendship when they face each other tonight. Bliss said she would watch SummerSlam at home eating Twinkies watching her former best friend lose to her. Bliss said she would be the biggest winner tonight.

Nia Jax defeated Emma (1:23)

Jax pinned Emma in another squash with a somersault senton. No offense at all from Emma.

Charly Caruso interviewed Akira Tozawa, who still had his left shoulder taped up. They showed Tozawa defeating Ariya Daivari after reversing a crossbody block. Daivari rammed Tozawa's shoulder in the post after the match. Tozawa is set to wrestle Daivari again tonight, but Titus O'Neil walked in and said that Tozawa can't wrestle and told Angle to cancel the match. Tozawa screamed at O'Neil that he was going to wrestle. The two argued as Tozawa went to Gorilla and out to the ring. They continued to bicker until Tozawa slapped O'Neil before a commercial.

O'Neil bolted after being slapped. Tozawa called out Daivari. Instead, Neville came down and badmouthed Tozawa, calling him a shell of his former shelf and a parody of himself. Tozawa belted Neville and gave him a senton bomb.Tozawa immediately started selling his injured shoulder. Daivari ran down and gave Tozawa a hammerlock into a short-armed clothesline. Daivari then gave Neville a hammerlock into a short-armed lariat and posed with the Cruiserweight championship.

Bayley laced up her boots backstage as Banks walked up. Banks was mad over Bliss' comments. Bayley said Banks can't let Bliss interfere in their friendship. Banks said she couldn't wait to get her hands on that little troll at SummerSlam. Bayley said maybe Banks should focus on tonight because she wants to win the championship at SummerSlam as badly as Banks does. Bayley said "May the best woman win." Banks said "May the best woman win, because I will."

Jordan did an interview with Young. He discussed how surreal the past week had been learning that a childhood hero had also been your biological father without even knowing it. You could hear the groans and catcalls in the background as Jordan recited his dialogue. This gimmick feels like its DOA.

Rollins and Ambrose talked backstage. Ambrose wanted nothing to do with him. Rollins wanted to go over strategy, but Ambrose said he wasn't one for planning and just wanted to fight. Rollins said Ambrose' plans hadn't helped against the Miz lately. Ambrose said Rollins had to worry about three people while he had to worry about four.

Bayley defeated Sasha Banks to become the #1 contender for the Raw Women's Championship (12:11)

Banks hit a frog splash and got a two count, then Bayley reversed it into a lateral press for the three count. A good match where the crowd was cold early, but they got into it after a sequence straight from the G1 Climax where Bayley hit a running knee, which Banks no sold and responded with a Shining Wizard. Banks hit the back stabber into the Bank Stabber, then rolled Bayley back to the middle of the ring. Bayley broke free with a snap mare. Bayley went for the Bayley-to-belly, but Banks slapped her, Bayley slapped Banks back and the two started throwing punches. There was a big dueling chant late in the match. Cole mentioned that today was the one year anniversary of Bayley's WWE debut as Banks' mystery tag team partner at Battleground, where they defeated Charlotte and Dana Brooke. Look up the reaction to Bayley last year and compare it to tonight. Bliss was on commentary. Afterwards, Bliss went to the ring and held up the belt in front of Bayley. Banks looked on the verge of tears after losing, which may finally lead to her turning heel at SummerSlam.

Hawkins did an interview with Caruso. Hawkins said he didn't care about Jordan, he was going to smack Jordan in his face tonight and ruin Jordan's Raw debut. Hawkins said everyone would be talking about him tomorrow.

James Jordan defeated Curt Hawkins (1:43)

Jordan won with a hoisted neckbreaker after ripping down a piece of his singlet like his "father." No reaction at all for Jordan. Angle watched with a smile on his face from the back.

The Revival came out for an in-ring interview with Caruso. Dawson interrupted Caruso and said he and Wilder knew exactly what she was going to ask before she even got the questions out. Wilder said they dominated NXT and are the greatest tag team on the planet, now they are ready to take their place as the greatest tag team on Raw. Dawson said they sent the New Day packing for SmackDown and beat the Hardy Boyz last week, which meant they were the best tag team going.

Anderson and Luke Gallows came out and said they didn't want to hear the Revival anymore. Gallows said they beat up the New Day first, they beat up the Hardy Boyz first and were even baldski first. Gallows said the Revival call themselves top guys but all they see are a couple of top nerds.

The Revival defeated Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson (8:35)

There have been tons of distraction finishes on Raw, but this was probably the first one where both teams got distracted by the same team. Gallows gave Dawson a big boot in the corner. Anderson tagged in to give Dawson the Boot of Doom, but Wilder ran in. Dawson gave Gallows a chop block. Dawson and Wilder were ready to give Anderson the Shatter Machine when the Hardys came out. The Revival got distracted, allowing Anderson and Gallows to throw Dash and Dawson out of the ring. Then, for some reason, Gallows and Anderson got distracted by the Hardys. The Revival recovered and gave Anderson the Shatter Machine, and Dawson pinned Anderson. Afterward, Jeff Hardy gave Wilder the Poetry in Motion. Matt Hardy gave Wilder the Twist of Fate, but Dawson pulled Wilder out of the ring before Jeff could deliver the Swanton.

Miz addressed Dallas, Axel and Maryse in the back. Miz said they were one big happy family, as opposed to Rollins and Ambrose. Comparing his MizTourage to Ambrose and Rollins is like comparing his Marine 5 to Tom Cruise's Mummy, which Maryse claimed flopped because Hollywood doesn't have any original ideas anymore and just reboots any semi-successful idea. Miz said Rollins was trying to reboot a semi-successful franchise in the Shield. Miz gave Dallas and Axel they will prove that Rollins and Ambrose are a box office bomb waiting to happen.

Next week, it will be Reigns vs. Strowman vs. Joe in a Triple Threat match.

Wale was at ringside, complete with his own diamond-crested Million Dollar belt.

Ambrose and Rollins beat the Miztourage. Dean hugs Seth but leaves him hanging for the fist bump to end Raw.

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Smackdown Results
  • Kevin Owens came out with the US Title to announce that he was reinstating his open challenge.... next week, because nobody from this hick town (Richmond, Virginia) deserved a shot. AJ came out to demand his rematch, Owens said no and then CHRIS JERICHO RETURNED! Crowd went nuts for Jericho, who demanded his own rematch for the title he lost at Wrestlemania. As AJ and Jericho argued over who would get the title shot, Owens tried to leave but Shane McMahon showed up to announce it would be a Triple Threat Title match in the main event tonight.

  • Shinsuke Nakamura beat Baron Corbin in a much, much, much better match than what they put together at the PPV. He prevented Corbin going for another low-blow and beat him about as dominantly and cleanly as you could.

  • Nattie and Naomi exchanged insults backstage, calling out the other on their lack of respect. After Nattie left, Carmella showed up to remind Naomi that she would always be waiting in the wings with her Money in the Bank briefcase. She was wearing a "Free Ellsworth" shirt.

  • Charlotte and Becky defeated Tamina and Lana in a quick match. Tamina was doing well but Lana tagged herself in and got pinned, which pissed off Tamina.

  • Jinder Mahal came out to demand a new opponent for Summerslam, quite correctly noting he'd beaten Randy Orton several times already and it was time to move on. John Cena came out and congratulated him on being in the best shape of his life and being so willing to go to any lengths to retain his title. But he would face Jinder at Summerslam, defeat him and become a 17-time World Champion. Before he could wrap things up however, Daniel Bryan showed up and reminded everybody that HE is the one who makes the matches, and Cena can't just insert himself into a title match. So since he defeated Rusev at the PPV, and Shinsuke had defeated Baron Corbin so handily earlier in the night, it was only fair that the two fight it out to see who would get the Summerslam Title Shot. So next week it will be John Cena vs Shinsuke Nakamura.

  • Owens complained to Shane McMahon backstage, claiming Shane was biased against him. Shane said he didn't care who the champion was so long as they were willing to defend their belt, and the important thing was that tonight the fans were going to get a hell of a match (he was right).

  • Sami Zayn and Tye Dillinger defeated Mike Kanellis and Aiden English. Quick match, Sami once again pinned Mike, making Kanellis 0-2 in televised matches so far.

  • The New Day were going to come out to celebrate their title wins after their excellent PPV match. The Usos jumped them before they could even appear, dragged them out onto the entrance platform and beat up all three.

  • Renee interviewed Shinsuke backstage. He did the "You can't see me gesture", said Cena couldn't see him and that meant Jinder WOULD see him at Summerslam.

  • AJ Styles regained the US Title in an excellent triple threat match to close the show. Owens, Jericho and AJ worked great together and there were some great false finishes. Jericho kicked out of the Pop-Up Powerbomb, so Owens hit him with a frogsplash. But AJ then tossed Owens out of the ring and stole the pinfall. AJ posed with the belt going up the ramp, while a distraught and furious Kevin Owens watched from the ring.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
piss

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

This Renee/Lita/Corey table for three is a fun time. They seem to be good pals.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


I'm not convinced that was a good Raw, just good in comparison to Battleground yesterday

Also #JusticeForMetallik

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Good Raw after a terrible Smackdown PPV - I love what they're doing with Braun and Samoa Joe and God I hope the end result of this is Samoa Joe: WWE Universal Champion.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

Jerusalem posted:

Good Raw after a terrible Smackdown PPV - I love what they're doing with Braun and Samoa Joe and God I hope the end result of this is Samoa Joe: WWE Universal Champion.

Braun Strowman Universal Champion :getin:

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

KungFu Grip posted:

Braun Strowman Universal Champion :getin:

either one is a good thing imo

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
Guys I'm still scared they'll turn Dean heel but they didn't do it tonight so yay.

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Guys I'm still scared they'll turn Dean heel but they didn't do it tonight so yay.

Babyface Dean is boring as gently caress these days and he has so much more potential as a heel so they should turn him ASAP

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
I like that both Dean and Seth have the two worst shirts in the company.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

John Dudebro posted:

Babyface Dean is boring as gently caress these days and he has so much more potential as a heel so they should turn him ASAP

Even discounting my preference for Face Dean, the full, total list of main-event faces on Raw without him is:
  • Roman Reigns, sort of
  • Seth Rollins, sort of
...so turning him would be kind of horrible. The problem isn't that Dean is boring as a face, the problem is they haven't given him a thing to do other than feud with Miz since the late 1940s.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


The_Rob posted:

I like that both Dean and Seth have the two worst shirts in the company.

That's what they should feud about, not Dean still not being over the breakup

Also Dean fans can't really complain about Reigns not being able to move on from the Shield with the music and outfit, considering Dean still can't move on and fistbump Seth

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

CarlCX posted:

Even discounting my preference for Face Dean, the full, total list of main-event faces on Raw without him is:
  • Roman Reigns, sort of
  • Seth Rollins, sort of
...so turning him would be kind of horrible. The problem isn't that Dean is boring as a face, the problem is they haven't given him a thing to do other than feud with Miz since the late 1940s.

They have Finn they'll be fiiiiiiine

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

John Dudebro posted:

Babyface Dean is boring as gently caress these days and he has so much more potential as a heel so they should turn him ASAP

On the other hand, no, Face Dean is probably the second most over pure face they have next to Finn, and heel Dean vs. face Seth is a loving terrible decision.

The main reason I'm thinking they will do the tag four way is that Sheasaro were watching the main as well. So they watched the Club, the Revival, and the main. But then again that leaves out the Hardys. Maybe Tag Team Turmoil?

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

John Dudebro posted:

They have Finn they'll be fiiiiiiine

I have bad news about Finn's future as a main eventer.

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

CarlCX posted:

I have bad news about Finn's future as a main eventer.

i'm a finn mark, but yeah, seems like they definitely don't view him as a top of the card guy at this point

this is all made better by the fact that what's happening with Braun & Joe loving rules beyond belief

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

if dean turns heel he will almost certainly stop doing rebound clotheslines and suicide dives and i hope that is enough to settle this argument once and for all

my piece is said

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Emma's tweets and the Nia "burial" of her were very interesting on a week the financials are out and there's some indications they may not be good. Hope Friday passes without releases.

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Vince very much has defaulted back into his usual Big Guys are the only guys to be pushed mode and thankfully Raw at least has some decent ones.

Braun should probably get the title even though I don't think he's quite ready as a worker despite how much he's improved...is what I would say if we didn't have Jinder as the other champ so might as well go all in.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



the good brothers are faces and the crowd seemed into it and i'm happy about this

Tomahawk
Aug 13, 2003

HE KNOWS

rovert posted:

Emma's tweets and the Nia "burial" of her were very interesting on a week the financials are out and there's some indications they may not be good. Hope Friday passes without releases.

i hope extremely bad poo poo happens

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
One reason I'll be curious if/when they turn Dean heel: how quickly and how many of the Dean Was Always Bad Crew will do a total 180 on him. The internet just doesn't like cheering faces. The only examples I can think of are AJ and Bryan. I won't make apologies for the fact that I like having a face I resonate with and unless they do a full Braun turn Dean is the only one who really fits that bill for me (though Finn is close) and so I'll be bummed out if they turn my favorite face to cheer. So sue me. And yes I know I can cheer for heels but cheering for faces is fun for me.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

rovert posted:

Emma's tweets and the Nia "burial" of her were very interesting on a week the financials are out and there's some indications they may not be good. Hope Friday passes without releases.

there ain't no way, ain't no how, ain't NO WAY the company fires anyone talented the week Great Khali gets rehired

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

John Dudebro posted:

if dean turns heel he will almost certainly stop doing rebound clotheslines and suicide dives and i hope that is enough to settle this argument once and for all

my piece is said

both of those things are cool though

he just needs to take punch lessons from Jerry Lawler

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

SamuraiFoochs posted:

One reason I'll be curious if/when they turn Dean heel: how quickly and how many of the Dean Was Always Bad Crew will do a total 180 on him. The internet just doesn't like cheering faces. The only examples I can think of are AJ and Bryan. I won't make apologies for the fact that I like having a face I resonate with and unless they do a full Braun turn Dean is the only one who really fits that bill for me (though Finn is close) and so I'll be bummed out if they turn my favorite face to cheer. So sue me. And yes I know I can cheer for heels but cheering for faces is fun for me.

cheering faces is good and i legitimately appreciate your unwavering love of dean ambrose, it is pure and kind and we should all aspire to like wrestlers that much

but i will forever be waiting for him to become the gloriously evil motherfucker i know he can be

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


That DICK! posted:

there ain't no way, ain't no how, ain't NO WAY the company fires anyone talented the week Great Khali gets rehired

They openly don't consider Emma talented, and are getting more pissed at her for being upset at her treatment by the week, so

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

if they release emma why i'll, why i'll, why i'll post an angry tweet and stew in my chair for a while about it

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

John Dudebro posted:

cheering faces is good and i legitimately appreciate your unwavering love of dean ambrose, it is pure and kind and we should all aspire to like wrestlers that much

but i will forever be waiting for him to become the gloriously evil motherfucker i know he can be

I get it, but they'll never let him be as insane as he was as Moxley and they need to get someone else as over as a face first

schweens
Jan 14, 2011

kakarot ain't got shit on me
Emma would be a great addition anywhere that needs talented women. ROH should be all over that

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer
Maybe they'll do Sheasaro/Seth and Dean/Revival for the titles and then Club/Hardys or switch the Revival and The Club? I'm kinda thinking they'll do a four way to determine the #1 contenders for the tag titles next week and Seth and Dean win though, because the main event will almost surely be the triple threat and I don't see them turning one of their longest tenured faces in the middle of a show.

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

i would put money on dean and seth being in an IC title triple threat with miz before they enter any sort of tag title scene. maybe they'll do sheasaro/club/hardys/revival but if they're doing a four-way for the universal title they might try to avoid any other four-ways on that show.

maybe seth and dean enter the tag scene after. i dunno. i still want dean and roman to be tag champs while they're still best friends but it may be too late for that

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



I doubt they're gonna turn Dean when the crowds were actually chanting for Roman to make the save during one of the Dean/Seth segments

"a chance to get Roman over" is blood in the water

Twisted Eye
Jan 6, 2011
I'd like to see solo heel Ambrose if only because we haven't been able to yet, and I feel like he'd do well. Now isn't the time sure but I wanna see full greaseball

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

John Dudebro posted:

i would put money on dean and seth being in an IC title triple threat with miz before they enter any sort of tag title scene. maybe they'll do sheasaro/club/hardys/revival but if they're doing a four-way for the universal title they might try to avoid any other four-ways on that show.

maybe seth and dean enter the tag scene after. i dunno. i still want dean and roman to be tag champs while they're still best friends but it may be too late for that

Nah, it's obvious to me they're doing Miz/JJ for the IC Title since A) I called it and B) JJ is on MizTV next week. Doing this build with Seth and Dean and then having them chase (and win hopefully) the tag titles freshens up the tag scene as well as both Seth and Dean, gives Dean the grand slam, and allows for them to mix up the rest of the card as well.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Any truth to the rumors khali signed a deal that was "lesnar-like"?

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Nah, it's obvious to me they're doing Miz/JJ for the IC Title since A) I called it and B) JJ is on MizTV next week. Doing this build with Seth and Dean and then having them chase (and win hopefully) the tag titles freshens up the tag scene as well as both Seth and Dean, gives Dean the grand slam, and allows for them to mix up the rest of the card as well.

i agree that both those things probably will happen, i'm just saying they won't happen at summerslam. next ppv maybe. but seth and dean have yet to interact with the tag division at all so i doubt they're gonna enter a scene that has very visibly coalesced around four teams over the past couple weeks

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



oldpainless posted:

Any truth to the rumors khali signed a deal that was "lesnar-like"?

the truth is that I really want this to be true so it is

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Twisted Eye posted:

I'd like to see solo heel Ambrose if only because we haven't been able to yet, and I feel like he'd do well. Now isn't the time sure but I wanna see full greaseball

Oh I wouldn't say I NEVER want to see it, just not now. I wanna enjoy Seth and Dean as friends again before wrestling breaks my heart.

John Dudebro posted:

i agree that both those things probably will happen, i'm just saying they won't happen at summerslam. next ppv maybe. but seth and dean have yet to interact with the tag division at all so i doubt they're gonna enter a scene that has very visibly coalesced around four teams over the past couple weeks

Okay, but there aren't anymore PPVs before Summerslam, and if you do Miz/JJ for the IC Title (which makes sense and is a fresh matchup) then unless you turn Dean now, Seth and Dean literally aren't on the card. Turning Dean now is not only moderately dumb and makes very little sense (even in character), that precludes them from going for the tag titles either (obviously). The reason I think they'll do the Fatal Four Way #1 contendership thing next week is WWE loves the uneaasy tag partners angle, they won't do heel/heel, The Club had more of a bizarre quasi-turn than anything, and I think they're doing more with Hardys/Revival because I honestly think they'll have the Revival destroy a Hardy's leg at some point as storyline impetus for them to be the Broken Hardys.

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The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

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SamuraiFoochs posted:

One reason I'll be curious if/when they turn Dean heel: how quickly and how many of the Dean Was Always Bad Crew will do a total 180 on him. The internet just doesn't like cheering faces. The only examples I can think of are AJ and Bryan. I won't make apologies for the fact that I like having a face I resonate with and unless they do a full Braun turn Dean is the only one who really fits that bill for me (though Finn is close) and so I'll be bummed out if they turn my favorite face to cheer. So sue me. And yes I know I can cheer for heels but cheering for faces is fun for me.

If the faces are bad though they suck so you boo them. I'm not going to just cheer Roman because he is a face.

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