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And watching a Let's Play of one of the games by the Super Best Friends. They burn out of the game so hard and only get to the end because of Liam's determination.
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VolticSurge posted:And watching a Let's Play of one of the games by the Super Best Friends. They burn out of the game so hard and only get to the end because of Liam's determination. If that was Ultra Despair Girls - which is what comes up if I google "super best friends danganronpa", no one likes that awful piece of trash and it is totally different from every other game in the series. It's also way edgier than every other game in the series, which would explain where that came from.
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il_cornuto posted:If that was Ultra Despair Girls - which is what comes up if I google "super best friends danganronpa", no one likes that awful piece of trash and it is totally different from every other game in the series. If that's the case, I might give the other games a look when they're on sale.
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Nov 24, 2017 23:06
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Terminally Bored posted:Lisa is very memorable but not that weird in the storytelling department. Really depressing though. Didn't have a chance to try the other two. Lisa wants to be a steaming pile of garbage and that's what it allows it to transcend
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Nov 24, 2017 23:12
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il_cornuto posted:Lisa it is, thanks. I can vouch for LISA as well, if I had to make a list of all the games I've played in the order of how memorable they were it'd almost certainly be in the top 5. Its mechanics are fairly simple and it's far from well-balanced, but that game clicked with me super hard. I can also imagine some people being extremely put-off by it though.
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Voltic, you're pretty dumb to be judging a series through a game that even big fans think is trash AND that doesn't pay anything like the others.
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Lisa's OST is pretty amazing too
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Mandatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckZlj2p8W9M
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Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help.
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VolticSurge posted:If that's the case, I might give the other games a look when they're on sale. Tenzarin posted:Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help.
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Tenzarin posted:Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help. Prey, by a mile.
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Macaluso posted:I put a ton of hours into the game never beat it. I never felt like I had to beat it really. You're gonna want someone's opinion that actually finished the game I guess but it's the kind of game I can play forever cause I just enjoy the gameplay. Like I can't wait for it to come to Switch so I can just pick it up anytime I want when I'm feelin it. I beat it back before they tweaked out some of the grind and while I never got sick of it, it's just really long. Every time you move up to a new tier of dungeons you have to learn how the new encounters work and upgrade all your gear, but there wasn't quite enough variety to the combat to match how long you spent at any given tier. Thematically it fit the grand battle of attrition against a bastion of evil, but that doesn't fully translate to fun. The endgame itself is really good and really challenging, but there are two problems with it. One is that it's four parts, and once you beat one part with a character you can't send them to any of the other parts. That means you need 16 fully decked-out characters to beat the game, which is one reason the whole thing is so long. The other problem is that a lot of the difficulty is predicated on not knowing what you're getting into, and the penalty for being ill-prepared can very easily be death. After spending so much time just to get to that point I wasn't interested in learning through failure, so I looked up how the final dungeons worked and beat it in one shot. I can't imagine how frustrated I could have been if I had tried and failed at any of them, because they're plenty hard even knowing what you need to do. As I understand it, the base difficulty still works the same way but has more shortcuts to the endgame, and the easier Radiant mode does away with a bunch of these mechanics. So if you really want to get into the game but are put off by any of this, there's still a mode for you.
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Dias posted:Voltic, you're pretty dumb to be judging a series through a game that even big fans think is trash AND that doesn't pay anything like the others. Well, everything I've heard about the series as a whole (both from Goons in other threads and IRL friends) stated basically that the games are either mediocre at best or trash at worst, with none of them singling out the "bad one". So maybe lay off the insults next time.
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Lisa's a masterpiece. It gets a lot of credit for being really sad but it's absolutely hilarious as well, the entire bulldozer sequence is fantastic. It manages to tell dumb-rear end jokes about sex and garbage and at the same time it has one of the best tragic hero + antagonist relationships I've ever seen. It manages to dance close to the line of being outright offensive without actually crossing it, too, which is nice. Lisa the Joyful is definitely not as good but I still appreciate it as a side story, and it has a moment that probably made me laugh the hardest out of either game (the honest, heartfelt message from the developer). It also has BIG LINCOLN.
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il_cornuto posted:Lisa it is, thanks. You've made the right choice. Just make sure you're prepared to confront the uglier side of the human condition.
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Knorth posted:Lisa's OST is pretty amazing too I'm pretty sure the guy who made the game pretty much threw it together with no prior experience too, sampling other music and such. Fun fact, the grunts (which were also used in Lisa the First) in this track: are from Shenmue 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-AXuqkL7WQ&t=30s Apparently he liked the grunt so much it was his ringtone at one point in the past. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Nov 24, 2017 |
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Tenzarin posted:Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help. Easy choice, Prey
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Kanfy posted:I'm pretty sure the guy who made the game pretty much threw it together with no prior experience too, sampling other music and such. I listened to that track and I thought "I've heard that somewhere before...." Thanks for clearing it up! That is a pro tier grunt and it deserves to be remembered as many ways as possible.
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VolticSurge posted:Well, everything I've heard about the series as a whole (both from Goons in other threads and IRL friends) stated basically that the games are either mediocre at best or trash at worst, with none of them singling out the "bad one". So maybe lay off the insults next time. "It's pretty dumb" was my intended phrasing, so sorry about that. It's still preeeetty dumb. Like, I'm not gonna die on this hill if you do decide to write it off, but DR is a fun murder-mystery game with a decent amount of Japanese trope bullshit. The premise is edgy as in so much it's Battle Royale But With Due Process, the writing stays pretty light and the characters are usually likeable. It also has a very convoluted plot that you might or might not enjoy depending on your tolerance for convoluted shonen-rear end plots. But that spin-off game is atrocious.
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il_cornuto posted:Edit: While we're talking story games, I'll ask once more if someone can suggest which out of Detention, OneShot or Lisa would be the better wierd and memorable narrative game before I just pick one at random. Lisa's definitely the best; but OneShot and Detention are definitely worth picking up too. They have significantly less gameplay, but they're shorter and more focused experiences, imo.
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DR is bad because half of the gimmick of the writing is starting up arcs for characters and then either immediately or waiting a case to kill them off before they can get any narrative closure. You very quickly stop giving a poo poo about any of the characters, and the entire game is built around those characters, so you can see why it fails at what it's trying to do. Tenzarin posted:Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help. Get prey, prey is super fun.
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Prey has my favorite opening of a game this year. Buy Prey.
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Prey is amazing, get Prey. It doesn't have lovely microtransactions in it, so it's better by default, but it's a great game even without that.
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Grapplejack posted:DR is bad because half of the gimmick of the writing is starting up arcs for characters and then either immediately or waiting a case to kill them off before they can get any narrative closure. You very quickly stop giving a poo poo about any of the characters, and the entire game is built around those characters, so you can see why it fails at what it's trying to do. I think that's an issue with everything being based on murder trials (plus optional scenes from Free Time), when a character is brought to the forefront it immediately becomes a Probably Dead one and there's a good chance they'll only talk about it during the trial, either after or soon before they die. There's still plenty of completed arcs with surviving characters, and I'unno, except for a couple each game I cared for them enough to find the game compelling. I guess that's a decent test for DR, if you enjoy how the very caricature-esque characters react/talk, you'll probably like the game, otherwise nah.
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pmchem posted:I read that DD got grindy fast and had a bad endgame, and bad expansion. Yet the game seems appealing on its face. How is its replay value? I'm the one weirdo who didn't like DD but every time I see someone talk about it I feel like I should try it again
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Darkest Dungeon is actually pretty chill because if you encounter a situation your team cant handle you can always just peace out and not really lose anything.
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Craving something multiplayer and new. I have PUBG and Siege and am just looking for something different. Was thinking about For Honor, but that looks like it is dead any recommendations? I also have a PS4 if that helps
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Tenzarin posted:Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help. Origins is loving great, game of the year imo
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I built up a huge cart of games to buy and then had the realisation I haven't even played DOOM or RotTR yet so I may as well wait until the Christmas sale and get my sweet bonus cards for 10c each on the steam market at the same time. It's free money!
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Yami Fenrir posted:It doesn't have lovely microtransactions in it, so it's better by default, but it's a great game even without that. The microtransactions in Origins may as well not exist they're so unnecessary.
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Dias posted:"It's pretty dumb" was my intended phrasing, so sorry about that. It's still preeeetty dumb. Like, I'm not gonna die on this hill if you do decide to write it off,
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Mokinokaro posted:The microtransactions in Origins may as well not exist they're so unnecessary. Well, to be fair I was mostly referring to Shadow of War with that statement, but really, if they're so unnecessary why are they there?
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The recent talk of LISA has reminded me... a few weeks ago, I swear I heard this song being played on NPR in beween segments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xu30tYn0D0&t=1154s
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Yami Fenrir posted:Well, to be fair I was mostly referring to Shadow of War with that statement, but really, if they're so unnecessary why are they there? Selling something useless will still make more money than selling nothing at all.
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Blattdorf posted:LOGistICAL and its various modules are discounted. It took me a while to pull the trigger on this, seeing that, well, the game's UI isn't exactly encouraging, but it only takes a moment to familiarize yourself with it. This game is basically a chill version of Anno's supply chain porn - you can't really lose the game, so the focus is on figuring out how to complete the map. This doesn't mean the game is a walk in the park. Everything is interconnected and you'll be spending a lot of time juggling resources from one industry to another to another and yet another, so that you can fulfill the requirements of each town. These requirements get increasingly more complex - oftentimes you'll have to provide several resources at the same time and in the desired amounts. You can't just drop 20 units of this good now, then 100 units of another good two hours later. This forces you to prepare a plan of attack with your growing fleet of transportation vehicles. Please send help, I read this, went "I WANT IT", installed it, and I can tell that it's basically crack for me. Gotta get worms to Oyster Bay so I can level up Kareela's industry so I can ship more fertilizer to Menai so I can bring oranges to Miranda so I can satisfy the populace!
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Flopstick posted:Age Of Rivals? It's good.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Well, to be fair I was mostly referring to Shadow of War with that statement, but really, if they're so unnecessary why are they there? to get some extra money from morons
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Tenzarin posted:Thinking of getting AC origins or Shadows of War or Prey, help. if you liked system shock, prey is a no brainer
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Yami Fenrir posted:Prey is amazing, get Prey. Prey is where it's at. It has many locuses of where it is at, from box sorcery to mug stealthing.
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