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oliveoil
Apr 22, 2016


I've noticed that I start feeling tired usually 5-6pm, gradually getting more tired until I feel completely exhausted and slow-thinking, peaking around 7-9pm, before becoming less tired and more alert from 10pm-1pm, when I might actually end up not feeling like sleeping unless I notice it's getting late and then go lie down (though once I lie down at this point, I fall asleep pretty quickly).

That seems so weird to me. Why would I get really, really tired for a few hours and then get that kind of second wind for a few hours afterward?

During that first bout of tiredness, I'm often not actually sleepy - a lot of the time, I can lie down and just won't fall asleep. The few times I've tried, I've just lied in bed feeling exhausted with maybe the slightest headache, not being in the mood to think about anything - don't want to read, play games, talk to anyone or really do anything that requires even a little thought. Does anyone else ever feel like that?

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Slayerjerman
Nov 27, 2005
'BECKY', 'KAREN', 'CUNT', WHATEVER YOU PERFER I HAVE ALOT MORE!!


What are you eating for dinner around that time?

I found that usually pastas and breads do that to me at dinner, to the point I cannot even keep my eyes open and need to lay down for 10-15mins after dinner - which makes me think that perhaps I am carb-crashing after the meal. I most notably felt this effect while on anti-depressants, which throws your body out of sync. Not sugar, caffine or other pick-me-ups helped as much as having those few minutes to just "reboot" my body.

You may want to supplement some vitamins with lunch so by the time dinner time rolls around you'll have a better balance going and try to pay attention to what foods you are eating when you start feeling dead tired in the evenings so you can pinpoint the cause. Try that for a week or two and log some info, then you can use that to try and talk with your doctor about it more. I say try because most doctors don't have a clue and will just give you random advice, so you in fact may need to talk to a dietician specialist.

Lastly, if you want to be real sure, get blood work/tests done and see if you are having any issues with low blood sugar and/or any possibly symptoms of diabetes.

Good luck.

Cryohazard
Feb 5, 2010


Sounds like caffeine to me.

faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?

I had similar problems in the past and found transcendental meditation did wonders in eliminating that late afternoon / early evening fatigue. You are supposed to do one 20 minute session in the morning and one 20 minute session in the early evening. It functions like a power nap and has really changed my energy levels and concentration for the better.

I.C.
Jun 10, 2008



You didn't say what your daily schedule is like. Do you work or whatever a normal day shift? I've worked pretty much all kinds of shifts, and it usually takes me a couple of hours after work to decompress myself back into gear. I'm not physically exhausted usually because I don't tend to do lots of heavy labor type of stuff, but, you know, just being worn out from the day. It's definitely a mental thing for me, though, and not something that would prevent me from being functional, doing errands, whatever.

Do you exercise any? What's your diet like? How long do your usually sleep at night, and is it restful? Maybe check out The Goon Doctor forum in YLLS. They seem very nice and knowledgeable there.

faarcyde posted:

I had similar problems in the past and found transcendental meditation did wonders in eliminating that late afternoon / early evening fatigue. You are supposed to do one 20 minute session in the morning and one 20 minute session in the early evening. It functions like a power nap and has really changed my energy levels and concentration for the better.

I'd like to know more about your experience with TM, actually! Maybe you can make a thread!

oliveoil
Apr 22, 2016


I work usually 9-5 and don't exercise at all. Running is like my favorite thing, but I seem to have a morton's neuroma that gets really angry every time I try to take up running. Ordered some toe spaces, though, so maybe those will help and I'll be able to run again.

I had a cold this week and was taking mucinex D, the one with pseudophedrine, and I had energy all day. Made me feel better and more energetic with a cold than when I don't have a cold.

I do get 100mg of caffeine around 8-9am, and another around 10am-12pm. Maybe once or twice a week, I'll have a third 100mg in the afternoon. Maybe getting rid of the caffeine and seeing if the evening tiredness goes would be worth trying.

oliveoil fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Aug 5, 2017

faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?

I.C. posted:

You didn't say what your daily schedule is like. Do you work or whatever a normal day shift? I've worked pretty much all kinds of shifts, and it usually takes me a couple of hours after work to decompress myself back into gear. I'm not physically exhausted usually because I don't tend to do lots of heavy labor type of stuff, but, you know, just being worn out from the day. It's definitely a mental thing for me, though, and not something that would prevent me from being functional, doing errands, whatever.

Do you exercise any? What's your diet like? How long do your usually sleep at night, and is it restful? Maybe check out The Goon Doctor forum in YLLS. They seem very nice and knowledgeable there.


I'd like to know more about your experience with TM, actually! Maybe you can make a thread!

There really wouldn't be much to say. It is a very simple method which is why I like it. It consists of two twenty minute sessions, once when I wake up and once in the late afternoon. Sit in a chair straight up with your hands on your lap. You are supposed to focus on a mantra, a meaningless word (a popular one in TM is "lotus"). Whenever your mind wanders, you bring yourself back to that word. It has a calming, soothing effect where the noise in your head filters out. A lot of times the first 5-10 minutes is very difficult because you are thinking about bills, what you have to do that day, relationships, etc but with some good practice, by the end of it, you will be calm and focused. The more important effect though is over time (it doesn't take very long), you develop an overall sense of calmness. I have let a lot of my anger drift away. I see things more clearly. I used to have to force myself to do it, but now I look forward to it. It is way better than a mid-day nap.

The corporate arm of TM would have you believe you need to take their classes to "gain access" to higher levels of meditation, but from everything I've read it isn't needed. You can learn everything you need to by looking around on YouTube. Anyway, I encourage everyone I meet to try TM. They are all sick of me.

This is Jerry Seinfeld speaking at the David Lynch benefit for TM. He summarizes the benefits very well. Good luck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh7Yru3cHoA

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shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Get into shit, let it out like diarrhea
Got burnt once, that was only gonorrhea




I used to get this every afternoon in high school, I wasn't eating all day and then came home at three, gorged myself on junk food and collapsed onto the sofa fading progressively harder until falling completely asleep from about 4:30 to 4:45 and then snapped to alertness and felt like a god for the rest of the afternoon. Are you going hungry during your workday? Try having small high protein snacks spaced through the day, like string cheese or pistachios. I've also had really good results from keeping a box of instant oatmeal and solo cups in my desk, you can get a solid nutritious pick-me-up anywhere hot water is available without even a microwave. Water cooler with a hot tap? BOOM hot fresh oatmeal. Coffee machine? BOOM hot fresh oatmeal.

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