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Delvio posted:I am honestly surprised that you did not do the intelligence potion loop trick. That one was always my favorite. copy posted:One of my favorite things to do was enchant a ring with constant effect -1 hp/sec, then sell that ring to a merchant. If they don't have a ring on they equip it, eventually die, and then you take all their things, and nobody suspects you of murder. It's the perfect crime.
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Don't forget the Soul Trap bug for infinite summons. I had tons of fun storming Vivec's room with 240 skeletons.
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Aug 6, 2017 23:39
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I don't have a way to record it but every now and then I restart Skyrim and see how fast I can break the game completely. It's a Potion Of Fortify Restoration loop, if anyone wants I can whip up a huge effort post about it but I'm sure most everyone knows how it works.
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Aug 7, 2017 07:35
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Grizzwold posted:I think the most breaking I ever did with an ES game was making a set of 5 armor pieces in Oblivion that each had 20% chameleon. For anyone unfamiliar with Oblivion, chameleon is a partial invisibility spell but unlike regular invisibility it doesn't break when you interact with a thing. As an effect on armor, it stacks, meaning with all five bits of 20% armor I was completely invisible all the time. It was kind of boring after a while tbh. For anyone who never did this: it doesn't just make you "invisible", it makes enemies unable to ever notice that you're there. You can punch someone in the face and they'll just enter their "alert" mode for a few minutes.
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Aug 7, 2017 10:08
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Did anyone else build pillow forts in the Hulau house the dude was murdered in using the massive cache of pillows you can find in Balmora? 
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Aug 7, 2017 10:11
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Somewhere out there is a sunken ship full of dozens of pillows as well. I was never able to make a good pillowfort, but I did like building stairways and bridges to nowhere. Morrowind's lack of physics on placed objects let you do some interesting things.
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Aug 7, 2017 15:04
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Mountaineer posted:Somewhere out there is a sunken ship full of dozens of pillows as well. I was never able to make a good pillowfort, but I did like building stairways and bridges to nowhere. Morrowind's lack of physics on placed objects let you do some interesting things. As I recall, the aforementioned ship has a note hidden in it that mentions that its shipment is bound for that pillow woman in Balmora.
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Aug 7, 2017 17:40
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Grizzwold posted:I love Morrowind but it is extremely hard to get back into after the QoL improvements from newer games. counterpoint: literally every single aspect of the skyrim user interface
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Aug 7, 2017 21:35
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Soricidus posted:counterpoint: literally every single aspect of the skyrim user interface Still though, I really really miss Morrowind's spellmaking and enchanting fuckery. I never even really made anything broken, just neat fun stuff like a combined fireball+soultrap spell to pick off cliff racer souls with one cast a piece.
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The Wu-Tang Secret posted:I prefer using the top secret spell just because it's a little more controlled. I considered showing off the intelligence potion trick, though. I still could, I guess, as a little side video? I obviously did not do this trick enough times. Or I did it just enough times. I regret not playing with telekinesis as much. I'm probably going reinstall and start a run as a jerk alteration/mysticism guy after watching you play. Good stuff dude.
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Aug 8, 2017 00:33
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These dupe bugs in Morrowind have nothing on what you can do in Oblivion with a few scrolls. Basically, any non-quest, non-script item except weapons or armor can be copied infinitely and sprays out of your body onto the ground. There's also the much more powerful Skull of Corruption dupe bug. Drop the Skull next to a humanoid enemy that fights with melee weapons, then disarm them and take the weapon, and they'll pick up the skull and use it on you. The Skull creates a clone of anything in the game, complete with inventory. If you kill the clone, their corpse takes a second to disappear. They tried locking the inventory of the clone, but you can get around it by saving and reloading right after the clone dies. This gives you a copy of your entire inventory, but with any special scripts stripped out. You can use that to do crazy poo poo like enchant and wear the Amulet of Kings, wear a slightly less powerful version of the Crusader armor with infamy, keep any keys that are supposed to get taken away after quests, or get infinite zero-weight Cure Vampirism potions that can be spammed for instant full health and magic restores.
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FELD1 posted:As I recall, the aforementioned ship has a note hidden in it that mentions that its shipment is bound for that pillow woman in Balmora.
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Aug 8, 2017 06:50
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Ben Carsons Ghost posted:I don't have a way to record it but every now and then I restart Skyrim and see how fast I can break the game completely. It's a Potion Of Fortify Restoration loop, if anyone wants I can whip up a huge effort post about it but I'm sure most everyone knows how it works. 
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Poil posted:I don't know about that. Only about the fortify alchemy and brewing fortify smithing potions. Same principle, right?
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Bogart posted:All I ever figured out when I was a kid playing Oblivion was to make a spell with Charm Person 100, Touch, Duration: one second. Make anybody your friend for long enough to get their stuff cheap. I made a spell in Oblivion that absorbed health, fatigue, and magicka in a 2 foot radius. It cost just little enough that as long as there was more than one enemy attacking me I could cast it forever and never die.
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Aug 8, 2017 18:05
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I think we can all agree on one thing: Alchemy is the true path to power in the Elder Scrolls series.
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A thread about breaking games? I know the perfect game for this... Ah, Final Fantasy VIII. When given the task of crafting a successor to the smash hit, Final Fantasy VII, Squaresoft decided that they needed to make something truly different and refreshing. They needed something new. Something with more depth and intrigue than simple weapons and armor, something to make the Materia system look like a bunch of kids playing with marbles...so they produced the horribly unblanaced Junction system! Behold, an RPG with no armor, no accessories, and no actual reason for casting magic spells! FF8 is completely broken. That doesn't make it a bad game of course, but holy crap. You can wreck the game's difficulty from the very beginning, and in very little time. Naturally that makes it the perfect candidate for a thread about breaking game balance. I'm gonna show you how to massively overpower your characters in very short time, all while employing AI-breaking boss strategies to boot. This LP will not focus on the plot all that much, I'll just show some scenes for context, but if you'd like me to break the plot too, sure, why not!  Update 1: Junction's Function
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Aug 9, 2017 03:15
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As someone who's never played a Final Fantasy game, they always seem like they were deliberately designed to be essentially incomprehensible.
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Aug 9, 2017 05:31
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Tiggum posted:As someone who's never played a Final Fantasy game, they always seem like they were deliberately designed to be essentially incomprehensible. Final Fantasy VIII was the first Final Fantasy game I played after FFIX attracted me to this series. And boy, was FFVIII a mess compared to the relatively simple and straightforward 9th game. In my first run I hosed myself royally by grinding levels, in my second run I employed tons of game-breaking strategies to breeze through, but ran out of steam halfway through the game and stopped. FFVIII and I are not friends, is what I'm getting at. Generally speaking, Final Fantasy is a series where you have (on the surface) simple and straightforward JRPGS like I and IX, and then you have completely nutso titles like II and VIII.
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Aug 9, 2017 06:48
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Yeah, if you play FFVIII like I did when I was a dumb kid you'll get your rear end handed to you repeatedly and your GFs will even manage to die. But if you know what you're doing there's absolutely no challenge anywhere in the game.
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FF8 is also noteworthy on being one of the easiest final fantasy games to break since 2, and it's a lot simpler to break than 2 was. If you know what to do, it's hard to mess up unless you level too much... which still isn't that big of a deal in the long run.
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Aug 9, 2017 07:58
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Ephraim225 posted:A thread about breaking games? I know the perfect game for this... So, Seifer trick incoming?
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Back in 99, my clueless brother was spamming GFs in FF8 for ~500 damage per summon while I was like hitting 1000+ damage per physical attack and having 3000 HP by the first third of Disc 1 after reading Gamefaqs. I think I was the only one in the family who actually completed the game.
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Ifrit knowing Shiva may be a reference to FF6, where you fight the two of them together. I don't think this is the only time they reference Ifrit and Shiva knowing each other, but as far as I know, the references are all after FF6. As far as FF8 goes... it had a lot of interesting ideas/mechanics that just didn't work well together on paper, and I always enjoy seeing it broken over someone's knee.
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Tiggum posted:As someone who's never played a Final Fantasy game, they always seem like they were deliberately designed to be essentially incomprehensible. FF8 in particular does a good job looking more complicated than it actually is. There are tutorials on Junctioning and stuff in the game and they're awful at explaining it. Fat Samurai posted:So, Seifer trick incoming? That's for chicken-wusses.
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Ephraim225 posted:That's for chicken-wusses.
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Fat Samurai posted:I just want my summons with all their abilities learnt and at level 100, is that so much to ask? Well let's be totally honest, you only have 3 GFs at this point and considering the other trick I've got up my sleeve, they're going to have all of their important abilities by the end of the next mission. I'm kind of going for the (mostly) time-efficient tricks here.
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Yeah, It's time consuming, agreed. What I found interesting is that Seifer can, for some reason, trigger his limit break much more often than the other guys, at times almost at full health. It made the battles so much faster.
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Aug 10, 2017 08:51
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Seifer's critical health threshold is actually about 70% of his Max HP, just that his name isn't in yellow.
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On the subject of Final Fantasy, someone should do a Let's Break Final Fantasy Tactics and show off stuff like the JP scroll glitch or instantly wiping battlefields with Math Skill.
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Aug 10, 2017 13:43
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Mountaineer posted:On the subject of Final Fantasy, someone should do a Let's Break Final Fantasy Tactics and show off stuff like the JP scroll glitch or instantly wiping battlefields with Math Skill. Didn't Orange Fluffy Sheep already do something like that?
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CptWedgie posted:I think we can all agree on one thing: Alchemy is the true path to power in the Elder Scrolls series. At least for Skyrim, you at least have to go out of the way to attain 100 Alchemy/Armorer/Enchant and each has a max cap on the effects. Morrowind's Alchemy is straight out broken with a positive feedback to it's own governing stat with no limits.
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Aug 10, 2017 16:41
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Actually, the Alchemy -> Enchanting -> Smithing loop can lead to infinite power and steel weapons that can one-shot dragons in Skyrim.
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Aug 10, 2017 16:49
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Commander Keene posted:Actually, the Alchemy -> Enchanting -> Smithing loop can lead to infinite power and FTFY Also if you take it too far you get an overflow and the game crashes because you made a "fortify health 242521486984245851745 points" potion and the game can't deal with those variables
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And it's really, really easy to do that too.
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double nine posted:FTFY due to the exponential nature of the fortify restoration stuff it doesn't even take that much effort to crash your game. I think four or five loops is enough. A shame I'll never get to swing that 2^32-1 damage sword.
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Grizzwold posted:I think the most breaking I ever did with an ES game was making a set of 5 armor pieces in Oblivion that each had 20% chameleon. For anyone unfamiliar with Oblivion, chameleon is a partial invisibility spell but unlike regular invisibility it doesn't break when you interact with a thing. As an effect on armor, it stacks, meaning with all five bits of 20% armor I was completely invisible all the time. It was kind of boring after a while tbh. In a crazy min-maxing spellcaster run of Oblivion I discovered that having a 100% Spell Absorption effect active on yourself would result in any spells with Telekinesis effects being partially absorbed and recovering mana from it. At 33 Mysticism you got back the exact cost of the telekinesis effect, and at 100 Mysticism approx. 4-5x the casting cost of the effect. I made a spell that was balanced to deal mixed elemental damage to a target while also recovering its entire casting cost. Due to the order casting and absorption worked, though, you could only use up to half of your total mana to chain-cast the spell. It was pretty awesome.
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Of course since it's Oblivion, you could just complete the first part of the Mage Guild questline then enchant yourself enough armor to get 100% Chameleon. Actually, that's completely un-fun. Now, what's fun for me is this:  Update 2: Card Games And Robots
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Ephraim225 posted:Of course since it's Oblivion, you could just complete the first part of the Mage Guild questline then enchant yourself enough armor to get 100% Chameleon. At least that cover tray glitch isn't as bad as Slots, which let you insta-kill almost anything for two games straight.
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I thought I was good at FF8 by beating Omega Weapon with purely physical attacks + no invincibility until I saw somebody did this.
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