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Think there’s a big difference about a woman talking about her own experience and iggy pop bragging about raping a kid
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I had no problem with the song when I first heard it. 12 year olds have sex. It's a bad idea at best and rape at worst, but it happens. It's a song about sex that's kind of risque and then record scratch at the end. That said, it's not autobiographical. Liz Phair had a fairly sheltered childhood. It's there for shock value or had some parallel with the Rolling Stones album her Exile in Guyville was supposed to mirror.
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Aug 5, 2020 15:40
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Yall just spent the last page calling out every musician in the 70s for preying on young girls and then got mad that someone wrote a song from the experience/perspective of one of the young girls being preyed upon I googled and Liz Phair would have been 12 in 1979
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Aug 5, 2020 15:47
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Krispy Wafer posted:I had no problem with the song when I first heard it. 12 year olds have sex. It's a bad idea at best and rape at worst, but it happens. It's a song about sex that's kind of risque and then record scratch at the end. Which I knew, but I buggered my post with an inline edit and gave the impression that I didn't. My apologies to all for the confusion.
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Aug 5, 2020 16:03
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This is something relatively recent that shocked me with how poorly it was aged even at the time: https://twitter.com/ev4ngeIion/status/1290801671182983169?s=20 I wonder if someone on the production was frightened by the number of self-described communists in the 12-18 demographic on twitter and decided to fight back with the best propaganda weapon at their disposal, a middle-aged Ben Savage?
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Aug 5, 2020 16:31
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i wish i could go back in time and burn every bootstrap between 1776 and now
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Aug 5, 2020 17:58
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:This is something relatively recent that shocked me with how poorly it was aged even at the time: https://twitter.com/ev4ngeIion/status/1290807197249744897 Also is this that Boy Meets World sequel series?
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Aug 5, 2020 18:36
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AceOfFlames posted:https://twitter.com/ev4ngeIion/status/1290807197249744897 Yeah, circa 2016.
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Aug 5, 2020 18:42
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AceOfFlames posted:https://twitter.com/ev4ngeIion/status/1290807197249744897 Yeah it also ended like five years ago so I don’t know why it’s coming back now
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Aug 5, 2020 20:05
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CharlestheHammer posted:Yeah it also ended like five years ago so I don’t know why it’s coming back now three years ago, and it's on Disney Plus so teens stuck at home from Covid for months are now going through the dregs of streaming and revisiting it is my guess
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Aug 5, 2020 20:22
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There are probably a fair number of teens who watched the show uncritically as children who are now shocked to see red scare poo poo in something they are nostalgic for, having been radicalized into leftism by twitter/seeing their friends massacred in school shootings/the rise of Trump in the meantime.
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Aug 5, 2020 20:31
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Looking through the episode guide that is literally the only episode like that so at least it’s pretty jarring
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Aug 5, 2020 20:38
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FreudianSlippers posted:In the 70s you were only legally allowed to write a song about one of the following topics: You forgot Ramblin'. So much ramblin' going on in the 70's.
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Aug 6, 2020 00:54
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Jedit posted:Liz Phair had a song on her debut album Exile in Guyville about continually getting hosed and dumped since she was 12. Exile in Guyville routinely enters into "top 100 albums of the 90s" lists, has sold more than half a million copies and enjoyed two anniversary re-releases, most recently in 2018. Veruca Salt also had a song on their first release that's extremely from the POV of the girl in those types of songs. Veruca Salt - Spiderman '79 posted:You're so nice, you tie me in a web
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Aug 11, 2020 02:07
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Any thriller where an obsessed student seduces their teacher is looking grosser and grosser.
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Aug 19, 2020 02:37
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Any thriller where an obsessed student seduces their teacher is looking grosser and grosser. A few years ago I realized that most Woody Allen movies are about how he has managed to find the one brilliant and sophisticated woman in the world who is his match and also 20 years old, which is just a confession with the women aged up out of high school. I'd imagine it's much the same with a lot of directors hung up on the "seductive woman goes out and ruins the decent family man with her wiles" narrative. Basically a lot of movies are just The Room with greater technical sophistication.
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Aug 19, 2020 02:52
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In retrospect all those shows and movies from the '90s making light of sexual harassment and allegations of abuse by superiors are super super super gross.
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Aug 19, 2020 02:53
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Absurd Alhazred posted:In retrospect all those shows and movies from the '90s making light of sexual harassment and allegations of abuse by superiors are super super super gross. Tbf that was a whole century ago
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Aug 19, 2020 02:59
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:A few years ago I realized that most Woody Allen movies are about how he has managed to find the one brilliant and sophisticated woman in the world who is his match and also 20 years old, which is just a confession with the women aged up out of high school. I'd imagine it's much the same with a lot of directors hung up on the "seductive woman goes out and ruins the decent family man with her wiles" narrative. Woody Allen made the movie Annie Hall, dated an underage girl he cast in the movie, made the movie Manhattan loosely based off of his relationship with that underage girl, and then tried to date the underage girl he cast for that part.
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Aug 19, 2020 03:55
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rodbeard posted:Woody Allen made the movie Annie Hall, dated an underage girl he cast in the movie, made the movie Manhattan loosely based off of his relationship with that underage girl, and then tried to date the underage girl he cast for that part. This guy sounds like some kind of pervert
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Aug 19, 2020 04:04
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I was kinda bummed when The Last Man On Earth got cancelled, but it's probably for the best given the direction this year has taken.
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Aug 19, 2020 04:11
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Nameless Pete posted:I was kinda bummed when The Last Man On Earth got cancelled, but it's probably for the best given the direction this year has taken. It posits an optimistic world in which Republicans face consequences for failing to respond to a pandemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyQvrb-caQ
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Aug 19, 2020 04:46
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Dr Christmas posted:It posits an optimistic world in which Republicans face consequences for failing to respond to a pandemic Wait I thought Last Man on Earth was the Tim Allen show where he's an angry conservative dad?
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Aug 19, 2020 04:55
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I think that one is Last Man Standing.
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Aug 19, 2020 04:58
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oldpainless posted:Tbf that was a whole century ago So was everything else before 2020.
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Aug 19, 2020 05:12
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They cancelled Last Man On Earth to buy Last Man Standing after ABC cancelled it. I only learned of it when conservatives threw a temper tantrum when it was cancelled after only 7 seasons.
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Aug 19, 2020 05:15
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Tim Allen is not just a chud rear end in a top hat but also a horrible narc and the world would be a better place with him gone.
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Aug 19, 2020 05:57
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If I was an author who wanted to write the two worst ideas for a novel then the first would be about a writer's struggle with writer's block, and the second would be about a college professor contemplating adultery with a female student half his age. There would be no need to write any books praising pedophilia because Xanth already exists.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:36
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Inspector Gesicht posted:If I was an author who wanted to write the two worst ideas for a novel then the first would be about a writer's struggle with writer's block, and the second would be about a college professor contemplating adultery with a female student half his age. combine the first two and make the prof a writer
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Aug 19, 2020 13:47
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I wonder with some of those 60s and 70s stuff about sleeping with underage girls was also the breakdown between rural and city cultures with the birth of the suburbs post World War 2.
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Aug 19, 2020 15:03
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Nameless Pete posted:I was kinda bummed when The Last Man On Earth got cancelled, but it's probably for the best given the direction this year has taken.  The difference is that I find it hilarious, especially since when they show the before times, there's good mask compliance.
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Aug 19, 2020 15:40
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grittyreboot posted:They cancelled Last Man On Earth to buy Last Man Standing after ABC cancelled it. I only learned of it when conservatives threw a temper tantrum when it was cancelled after only 7 seasons. See also: The Mick
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Aug 19, 2020 15:40
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grittyreboot posted:They cancelled Last Man On Earth to buy Last Man Standing after ABC cancelled it. I only learned of it when conservatives threw a temper tantrum when it was cancelled after only 7 seasons. And the biggest irony is that LMS wasn't cancelled out of "censoring conservatives" but purely business reasons: ABC had cancelled its entire comedy block and wasn't sure where to slot LMS, their contract with 20th Century Fox was about to expire which would cause them to have to shoulder all of the production costs and Allen's contract was up as well, meaning he would definitely ask for a raise. Allen making it about culture war bullshit is either a brilliant move or stupidity paying off.
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Aug 19, 2020 16:50
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Iron Crowned posted:See also: The Mick The “Monkey Business” bit just about killed me
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Aug 19, 2020 16:54
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Inspector Gesicht posted:worst ideas for a novel ... a writer's struggle with writer's block On the other hand, writer's block has given us at least three great movies (Barton Fink, Adaptation., and Seven Psychopaths)
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Aug 19, 2020 19:26
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Eh! Frank posted:On the other hand, writer's block has given us at least three great movies (Barton Fink, Adaptation., and Seven Psychopaths) 
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Aug 19, 2020 19:36
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:combine the first two and make the prof a writer That’s basically Wonder Boys. Though they had the good sense to have the professor turn down the student that wants to sleep with him.
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Aug 19, 2020 20:50
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Promoted Pawn posted:That’s basically Wonder Boys. Though they had the good sense to have the professor turn down the student that wants to sleep with him. That's because Michael Chabon is a good writer, wrote the best Spider-Man movie, and unlike at least one of his peers, didn't leave his wife for Natalie Portman
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Aug 19, 2020 23:17
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Ambitious Spider posted:That's because Michael Chabon is a good writer, wrote the best Spider-Man movie, and unlike at least one of his peers, didn't leave his wife for Natalie Portman Who, Moby?
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Ambitious Spider posted:Michael Chabon wrote the best Spider-Man movie, I just double-checked, and he did not, in fact, write Into the Spider Verse.
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